Donald Trump says immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country"

[OSR stands with Israel]

Ferguson is taking this out of context just like red avatars took the animals quote out of context back in 2018.

1 - What is the "right" context?

2 - What evidence or reasoning do you have to demonstrate that your interpretation of the context is the correct interpretation, other than "it fits my narrative" and "it's just what I think"?

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Given how insanely high this number is, we have zero idea which types of illegal immigrants are coming in

So depending on which ethnicities are coming in, Trump's comments about the blood being poisoned could be considered accurate? That's your defense?! Which ethnicities would poison America's blood, OSR?

Or maybe you are you trying to say (without saying) "oh, the part about the BLOOD being poisoned isn't important, because I said so, because it would be inconvenient for Republican narratives, even though there's no logical reason why Trump using the word blood wouldn't be extremely relevant".

Either way, you're downplaying the racist connotations here way too much.

He didnt mean it in an ethnic way . A country's blood can mean more than just ethnicity so this is where you are taking it out of context.

Yes , Trump should not be anywhere near as crude as he is and this is another example of Trump being crude but this is taking it out of context.

OSR, if you bend over backwards any further, you're going to pull a muscle.

The context was talking about terrorists coming in so it is you guys who are pulling a muscle not me here. This is exactly like the animals quote you guys all took out of context back in 2018

The context isn't the issue here, the wording is.  Are you not aware that this is literally an echo of something Hitler said? ""All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning."  If he'd used different wording such as T'Chenka suggested, he'd have made exactly the same point without using Hitler's words.  But with those words, his subtext is as clear as day.  This isn't a dog whistle, it's a fire siren.

Will you at least say "I condemn Trump for using wording reminiscent of Hitler"?  That really is a very low bar.

It isnt using the same phrase as Hitler.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Ferguson is taking this out of context just like red avatars took the animals quote out of context back in 2018.

1 - What is the "right" context?

2 - What evidence or reasoning do you have to demonstrate that your interpretation of the context is the correct interpretation, other than "it fits my narrative" and "it's just what I think"?

[ image ]

Given how insanely high this number is, we have zero idea which types of illegal immigrants are coming in

So depending on which ethnicities are coming in, Trump's comments about the blood being poisoned could be considered accurate? That's your defense?! Which ethnicities would poison America's blood, OSR?

Or maybe you are you trying to say (without saying) "oh, the part about the BLOOD being poisoned isn't important, because I said so, because it would be inconvenient for Republican narratives, even though there's no logical reason why Trump using the word blood wouldn't be extremely relevant".

Either way, you're downplaying the racist connotations here way too much.

He didnt mean it in an ethnic way . A country's blood can mean more than just ethnicity so this is where you are taking it out of context.

Yes , Trump should not be anywhere near as crude as he is and this is another example of Trump being crude but this is taking it out of context.

OSR, if you bend over backwards any further, you're going to pull a muscle.

The context was talking about terrorists coming in so it is you guys who are pulling a muscle not me here. This is exactly like the animals quote you guys all took out of context back in 2018

The context isn't the issue here, the wording is.  Are you not aware that this is literally an echo of something Hitler said? ""All great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning."  If he'd used different wording such as T'Chenka suggested, he'd have made exactly the same point without using Hitler's words.  But with those words, his subtext is as clear as day.  This isn't a dog whistle, it's a fire siren.

Will you at least say "I condemn Trump for using wording reminiscent of Hitler"?  That really is a very low bar.

It isnt using the same phrase as Hitler.

You're hopeless.  I give up on you.

[Damocles]

Except when they're porn stars, it seems.

[Landslide Lyndon]

That's why Trump wins. Because even Republicans who supposedly oppose him like OSR will always rush to his defense because owning the libs is more important.

[emailking]

I think it's like "stand back and stand by." He knew exactly what he was saying.

[Mr. Smith]

There's no blood left without them.

[OSR stands with Israel]

OSRs comments here, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t want to ban caste descrimination are very telling.

What are you alleging

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Terrorists. Criminals. Madmen. Poisoning our county.

It. Is. Always. Projection.

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

I think it's like "stand back and stand by." He knew exactly what he was saying.

Yeah exactly this. I try to be very generous with benefit of the doubt, but Trump burned through it pretty quickly. At this point, he knows what he's doing.

I'd even entertain an argument that he was saying it to be provocative and to bait people into a hysterical reaction, but even if you're going to argue that, it comes with admitting the premise that he knows why such a statement would be provocative and problematic in the first place.

He was using really detestable ethno-nationalist language. Even if it's not explicitly white supremacist, it's still gross and with all of the other overt white nationalism he has courted over the years, it's an established pattern that means he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt when he's being this overt.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Pretty par for the course, if you ask me. Him and his party need to ramp up the anti-immigration rhetoric after his first four years failed to really actually do anything substantive about it.

How do you out-riduculous "the wall?" Extrajudicial murder! Why not?

[Xing]

I know that it’s “very unfair” to call Trump the R word, but at what point are we going to accept that his rhetoric (as well as that of many on the right) is not about legality or making sure that there are job opportunities for native-born citizens, and that the idea that American culture (if it can even be defined as a singular concept) is going to disappear if we let in too many immigrants is ludicrous at best?

[MasterJedi]

OSRs comments here, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t want to ban caste descrimination are very telling.

What are you alleging

I don’t have to allege anything, you say the quiet part out loud already.

[pppolitics]

Did Donald Drumpf said that?

[OSR stands with Israel]

OSRs comments here, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t want to ban caste descrimination are very telling.

What are you alleging

I don’t have to allege anything, you say the quiet part out loud already.

saying what out loud

[certified hummus supporter 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

He's correct

Do tell us all how my family immigrating here somehow "ruins" the blood of this country.

[Saint Milei]

OSRs comments here, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t want to ban caste descrimination are very telling.

What are you alleging

I don’t have to allege anything, you say the quiet part out loud already.

Stop being so soft and just call him racist.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Everyone take a deep breath and calm down, please. Take a little break from the forum, or at least from this thread.

[Saint Milei]

I average 1 post a day. I don't need a break like some people.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Everyone take a deep breath and calm down, please. Take a little break from the forum, or at least from this thread.

This thread is an excellent illustration of the kind of engagement Trump can bring American democracy. At its worst.

[Libertas Vel Mors]

He's correct

Do tell us all how my family immigrating here somehow "ruins" the blood of this country.

Where is your family from?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Sure what about the ones already here that have Green cards , it's their cuz that is 5rying to get threw Trump is narcissistic

[Excessive Hyperbole]

OSRs comments here, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t want to ban caste descrimination are very telling.

What are you alleging

I don’t have to allege anything, you say the quiet part out loud already.

yet again one of the unhinged gatekeepers of morality on atlas. Get out of here with your BS, punk.

[GeorgiaModerate]

He's correct

Do tell us all how my family immigrating here somehow "ruins" the blood of this country.

Where is your family from?

Why would that matter?

[Saint Milei]

“In other words, blood and soil and God and nation still matter to people. Libertarians ignore this at the risk of irrelevance.”


Atlas also ignores this. Very sad!

[HillGoose]

man dang whats wrong w/ Trump thats very not cool it sounds like something a COMMUNIST would say, here in AMERICA we are the land of immigrants who move here to escape the ASS countries of TYRANNY around this world !