House GOP in disarray.

[windjammer]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Jordan is not acceptable to a significant portion of the GOP caucus and they won't vote for him, that's a given. Republicans in Biden districts are not going to tie themselves to someone with such baggage that can be used to weigh them down.

You might be overestimating them...

[GeorgiaModerate]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

[brucejoel99]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

It'd be an academically interesting question for the law reviews, but if a House majority votes to vest McHenry as Speaker Pro Temp with all the powers of the regular Speaker, then every court that's asked to will more than gladly dismiss any suit against any law that he signs as a nonjusticiable political question because "only the House can interpret its own rules".

[OSR stands with Israel]

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

[politicallefty]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

Most of what's preventing the House from operating are conventions and precedents, but you can't simply ignore them once they start becoming inconvenient. They can certainly change and evolve over time though. For example, the discharge petition was originally created as a check on the power of the Speaker. Unless there's something very explicit in the law (such as the line of succession), the courts won't touch any of this. There is nothing in the Constitution that stops the House from passing bills without a Speaker. The only time the Constitution is explicit as to how votes are to be done is when it comes to veto overrides (also the Journal, but that's not particularly relevant to most).

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

I was waiting for someone to say that there is no citizenship or residency requirement for the Speakership in the Constitution.

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

Most of what's preventing the House from operating are conventions and precedents, but you can't simply ignore them once they start becoming inconvenient. They can certainly change and evolve over time though. For example, the discharge petition was originally created as a check on the power of the Speaker. Unless there's something very explicit in the law (such as the line of succession), the courts won't touch any of this. There is nothing in the Constitution that stops the House from passing bills without a Speaker. The only time the Constitution is explicit as to how votes are to be done is when it comes to veto overrides (also the Journal, but that's not particularly relevant to most).

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

I was waiting for someone to say that there is no citizenship or residency requirement for the Speakership in the Constitution.

"Ain't no rule that says a dog can't be Speaker of the House!"

[Rhode Islander First, American Second]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

Most of what's preventing the House from operating are conventions and precedents, but you can't simply ignore them once they start becoming inconvenient. They can certainly change and evolve over time though. For example, the discharge petition was originally created as a check on the power of the Speaker. Unless there's something very explicit in the law (such as the line of succession), the courts won't touch any of this. There is nothing in the Constitution that stops the House from passing bills without a Speaker. The only time the Constitution is explicit as to how votes are to be done is when it comes to veto overrides (also the Journal, but that's not particularly relevant to most).

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

I was waiting for someone to say that there is no citizenship or residency requirement for the Speakership in the Constitution.

If the speaker of the House isn't a natural born citizen and thus ineligible to be President, are they just skipped over in the line of succession?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

Most of what's preventing the House from operating are conventions and precedents, but you can't simply ignore them once they start becoming inconvenient. They can certainly change and evolve over time though. For example, the discharge petition was originally created as a check on the power of the Speaker. Unless there's something very explicit in the law (such as the line of succession), the courts won't touch any of this. There is nothing in the Constitution that stops the House from passing bills without a Speaker. The only time the Constitution is explicit as to how votes are to be done is when it comes to veto overrides (also the Journal, but that's not particularly relevant to most).

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

I was waiting for someone to say that there is no citizenship or residency requirement for the Speakership in the Constitution.

If the speaker of the House isn't a natural born citizen and thus ineligible to be President, are they just skipped over in the line of succession?

Yes

[Tokugawa Sexgod Ieyasu]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

The Constitution actually says very little about the Speaker!  The only part in the original text is in Article I, Section 2, which says:

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

"Chuse" is an archaic spelling of "choose".

The only other mention of the Speaker is in the 25th Amendment, in which the Speaker and the President Pro Tem of the Senate are part of the process of declaring the President unable to discharge his duties.

And that's it!

Most of what's preventing the House from operating are conventions and precedents, but you can't simply ignore them once they start becoming inconvenient. They can certainly change and evolve over time though. For example, the discharge petition was originally created as a check on the power of the Speaker. Unless there's something very explicit in the law (such as the line of succession), the courts won't touch any of this. There is nothing in the Constitution that stops the House from passing bills without a Speaker. The only time the Constitution is explicit as to how votes are to be done is when it comes to veto overrides (also the Journal, but that's not particularly relevant to most).

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

I was waiting for someone to say that there is no citizenship or residency requirement for the Speakership in the Constitution.

If the speaker of the House isn't a natural born citizen and thus ineligible to be President, are they just skipped over in the line of succession?

Yes

This is the case for anyone in the line of succession (other than the Vice President, whose constitutional qualifications are the same as those of the President per the Twelfth Amendment). Currently, Jennifer Granholm and Alejandro Mayorkas are skipped over for having been born Canadian and Cuban, respectively.

[politicallefty]

As it stands right now, Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) is second in line to the Presidency after the Vice President. She's the second woman to ever reach that point in the line of succession (after Nancy Pelosi). It's worth noting though that Dianne Feinstein was originally supposed to be President Pro Tem when this Congress began. With her health issues, she declined the position.

[Kalimantan]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

It'd be an academically interesting question for the law reviews, but if a House majority votes to vest McHenry as Speaker Pro Temp with all the powers of the regular Speaker, then every court that's asked to will more than gladly dismiss any suit against any law that he signs as a nonjusticiable political question because "only the House can interpret its own rules".

If " a House majority votes to vest McHenry as Speaker Pro Temp with all the powers of the regular Speaker, " isn't that just exactly the same as the House electing a Speaker? What's the practical difference?

[emailking]

He still wouldn't be in the line of succession, there could be an expiry date on the powers (not the case with a Speaker), they could elect a real Speaker without a vote to vacate McHenry.

[brucejoel99]

Is making the speaker pro tempore the de facto speaker an option?

Maybe, if it's constitutional.

It'd be an academically interesting question for the law reviews, but if a House majority votes to vest McHenry as Speaker Pro Temp with all the powers of the regular Speaker, then every court that's asked to will more than gladly dismiss any suit against any law that he signs as a nonjusticiable political question because "only the House can interpret its own rules".

If " a House majority votes to vest McHenry as Speaker Pro Temp with all the powers of the regular Speaker, " isn't that just exactly the same as the House electing a Speaker? What's the practical difference?

Practically, no difference at all for the duration of his empowerment, but he'd only be authorized to carry out the Speaker's House powers & not any statutory duties like inclusion in the line-of-succession.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

They just need to hold a vote. That's the only way to map out where everyone stands.

[brucejoel99]

They just need to hold a vote. That's the only way to map out where everyone stands.

It's looking like, (finally!) starting Tuesday, Jordan is gonna start playing the same game of chicken with holdouts fighting on the floor ballot after ballot that Kevin had to in Jan. lol

[GoTfan]

They just need to hold a vote. That's the only way to map out where everyone stands.

It's looking like, (finally!) starting Tuesday, Jordan is gonna start playing the same game of chicken with holdouts fighting on the floor ballot after ballot that Kevin had to in Jan. lol

This House of Cards reboot is better than the original.

[Drop Billionaires, Not Bombs]

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

Only for Truss to be ousted in seven weeks?

The House needs a Speaker who can last longer in chair and satisfy (enough of) its members during congress.

[หมูเด้ง]

Given that Liz Truss just met Ted Cruz , apparently speaks with the GOP study committee and is taking tips from the GOP freedom caucus, she may be the person the entire GOP can agree on for speaker lol.

Tories wish they were this cool😎

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1713590914885582952

[Tartarus Sauce]

There’s no way he manages to whittle down that many objectors in time on Tuesday. Plus, Jordan is the antithesis of a relations building politician, he’ll be nowhere near as adept as even a failure like McCarthy was at trying to negotiate and build bridges with varying members of his fractured caucus.

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

The GOP is confiscating phones while Gym Jordan threatens his fellow Representatives. (I understand that covering up abuse is a field where Jordan has a lot of experience, which does speak well of his qualifications to lead the GOP.)

US House Republicans Had Their Phones Confiscated to Stop Leaks

Jim Jordan allies 'threatening retribution' against GOPer's refusing to elect him speaker

[Ferguson97]

The GOP is confiscating phones while Gym Jordan threatens his fellow Representatives. (I understand that covering up abuse is a field where Jordan has a lot of experience, which does speak well of his qualifications to lead the GOP.)

US House Republicans Had Their Phones Confiscated to Stop Leaks

Jim Jordan allies 'threatening retribution' against GOPer's refusing to elect him speaker

You win more flies with honey than with vinegar, Gym.

[Senator Incitatus]

On one of the finer points that was brought up, we have had at least two Speakers who were not natural citizens, Charles Crisp and David Henderson.