50th anniversary of the military coup d'stat in Chile

[It’s so Joever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfeSWVgF1w

Cállate, p**a fascista.

[PSOL]

Any “economic mismanagement” done by Allende was in fact caused by the massive money spent to destabilize Chile and the refusal to buy Chilean copper by the United States. Otherwise Allende greatly expanded education and social services in the country creating the modern Chilean economy as a powerhouse in Latin America, which was then impeded and restarted only after the dictatorship.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfeSWVgF1w

Cállate, p**a fascista.

Not to mention that song sucks. God what awful lyrics and terrible sounding music. Say what you will about communists but they know how to put out annoyingly catchy propaganda music

[CumbrianLefty]

I don't see how Castro is relevant to this thread.

Pure whataboutery, and not even very convincing in that aim.

[John Dule]

Allende was on his way to creating the United States of South America and was going to expose the Clinton murders before Hillary had him killed

Your Clintonite brainrot literally wouldn't allow you to get through this thread without saying something like this. Sad.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfeSWVgF1w

Cállate, p**a fascista.

Not to mention that song sucks. God what awful lyrics and terrible sounding music. Say what you will about communists but they know how to put out annoyingly catchy propaganda music

Farewell of Slavianka predates the Bolsheviks. It was one of those things which was part of both Tsarist and Soviet Russian musical culture.

[Hindsight was 2020]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xfeSWVgF1w

Cállate, p**a fascista.

Not to mention that song sucks. God what awful lyrics and terrible sounding music. Say what you will about communists but they know how to put out annoyingly catchy propaganda music

Farewell of Slavianka predates the Bolsheviks. It was one of those things which was part of both Tsarist and Soviet Russian musical culture.

The music was but I don’t think there was any Czarist era lyrics to it like Soviet one does

[super6646]

Had a Chilean-Canadian political science prof back in the day call it the first 9/11. Terrifying stuff for him and his family to say the least.

[All Along The Watchtower]

It’s a travesty that Kissinger has made it to 100 and is a free man.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

More to the point, I don't think we should lionize the leader of a military junta who led to the deaths of thousands and the internments of tens of thousands. Don't like Allende all you want, I, for one, don't find him a particularly praiseworthy figure, but the fetishization by the right of Pinochet is something I will never understand.

It's a more respectable way of saying that Mussolini made the trains run on time.

[TheReckoning]

It’s a travesty that Kissinger has made it to 100 and is a free man.

The USA did not conduct the coup in Chile, and anything else is a conspiracy theory.

[CumbrianLefty]

Nobody is saying they were the main movers, but the CIA giving it the nod is well documented.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Allende was on his way to creating the United States of South America and was going to expose the Clinton murders before Hillary had him killed

in all seriousness though, Allende was a dirtbag who was speedrunning ruining his country, but Pinochet was infinitely worse (although it wasn't clear at the time of the coup) and the right-wingers who today claim to support him, even ironically, are absolute swine.  Interfering with the governments of other countries, especially in support of a violent man like Pinochet, is bad, although Pinochet almost certainly would have taken over Chile even without the oft-overblown CIA support.

This is the correct take.

[Benjamin Frank]

It's important to preserve the memory of this event in order to avoid right-wing myths like the one that the military coup was legal and the one that the Chicago Boys made the Chilean economy perform very well.

The right-wing revisionists like to mention the resolution against Allende approved by the Congress in August 1973. But there was no article in the Chilean constitution allowing the armed forces to do a coup d'stat.

Chile faced depressions in 1975 and 1982-83. GDP started to have high growth rates since 1984: when the Chicago Boys were not in the government anymore. Besides, Chile had income inequality lower than the Latin American average before the 1973 coup, and, after Pinochet's regime, had an income inequality similar to Brazil's.

There were mass riots in late 1985 throughout Chile as well, driven at least partly by the poor state of the economy.

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/11/06/world/around-the-world-34-hurt-150-arrested-in-mass-protest-in-chile.html

It was the Patricio Aylwin government elected in 1989 that sustained the economic growth that began late in the Pinochet dictatorship by reducing income inequality that deserves the credit for the Chilean economy.

[All Along The Watchtower]

It’s a travesty that Kissinger has made it to 100 and is a free man.

The USA did not conduct the coup in Chile, and anything else is a conspiracy theory.

There are literally tapes of Nixon and Kissinger discussing their desire to remove Allende. And it is well documented that the CIA was in contact with Allende’s enemies in the Chilean military and was conducting covert action to vilify Allende and sabotage the Chilean economy. Furthermore, CEOs of US corporations with business interests in Chile were lobbying Nixon to “do something” about Allende, with Nixon himself being a former lobbyist for PepsiCo—ie., one of the largest American businesses operating in Chile and whose top executives desperately wanted Allende removed.

More and more of this stuff—the Nixon White House tapes, relevant CIA and State Department cables, later internal investigations/inspector general reports—is being declassified. Saying “the US did not conduct the coup in Chile” is technically true, but then that would be the case; plausible deniability, right?