Yesterday seemed like a snapshot of 2004…aside from Vivek

[BG-NY (permanently retired)]

I think the vast majority of the board agrees the 1980-2008 GOP was terrible. It was at its worst during the second W term. Last night felt like we were stepping into a time machine. Mostly.

Vivek has some issues in terms of presentation, but at least he wants to move in another direction. He gave a preview of what the post-Trump GOP might look like. He’s the only one running asking tough questions about mental health, foreign policy, and the criminal justice system.

[Del Tachi]

You mean Republicans are going to be Republicans?  and it's actually Trump who is the aberration from the party's historical positions?

You can stop spamming this board with your concern trolling about "neocons", now. 

[Redban]

I think the vast majority of the board agrees the 1980-2008 GOP was terrible. It was at its worst during the second W term. Last night felt like we were stepping into a time machine. Mostly.

Vivek has some issues in terms of presentation, but at least he wants to move in another direction. He gave a preview of what the post-Trump GOP might look like. He’s the only one running asking tough questions about mental health, foreign policy, and the criminal justice system.

Vast majority of this board are purple-haired man-bun wearing MSNBC liberals. They feel the GOP is bad from whatever time period you want to pick, not just 1980-2008

 I haven't heard many claim that the 1980s Republicans were bad. It was definitely bad during Bush's 2nd term though

Haley and Pence are considered throwback Republicans in the vein Karl Rove / Bush / Romney. Christie is more of a bipartisan moderate comparable to McCain, I think. DeSantis and Vivek are both America-First MAGA disciples. I don't know about Burgum or Asa

Vivek stands out from DeSantis, honestly, because of his youth and background.  And he's also less awkward publically than DeSantis. Politically, they're on the same spectrum.

The GOP is known as the white-majority party (80% of their voters in presidential elections are white), and liberals' bread-and-butter attack is try to label Republicans are racist white-supremacists' by any means necessary. Having a non-Anglicized, son-of-immigrants candidate like Vivek Ramaswamy seems like a new era in consequence

[BG-NY (permanently retired)]

You mean Republicans are going to be Republicans?  and it's actually Trump who is the aberration from the party's historical positions?

You can stop spamming this board with your concern trolling about "neocons", now. 

28/129 years is 16.5% of the GOP’s existence. Reagan and Bush were anomalies. Not the norm.

[Del Tachi]

You mean Republicans are going to be Republicans?  and it's actually Trump who is the aberration from the party's historical positions?

You can stop spamming this board with your concern trolling about "neocons", now. 

28/129 years is 16.5% of the GOP’s existence. Reagan and Bush were anomalies. Not the norm.

What about Eisenhower and Nixon?  lmao

1952 to 2015 is 48% of the GOP's history, and the only history that matters to it today. 

[oldtimer]

You mean Republicans are going to be Republicans?  and it's actually Trump who is the aberration from the party's historical positions?

You can stop spamming this board with your concern trolling about "neocons", now. 

28/129 years is 16.5% of the GOP’s existence. Reagan and Bush were anomalies. Not the norm.

Parties change and flip all the time.

Reagan was as an outsider in 1965 as Trump was in 2015, but both represented the vast numbers of voters who where defecting to their party from the other party.

They rode the wave.

[oldtimer]

You mean Republicans are going to be Republicans?  and it's actually Trump who is the aberration from the party's historical positions?

You can stop spamming this board with your concern trolling about "neocons", now. 

28/129 years is 16.5% of the GOP’s existence. Reagan and Bush were anomalies. Not the norm.

What about Eisenhower and Nixon?  lmao

1952 to 2015 is 48% of the GOP's history, and the only history that matters to it today. 

Nixon also represented change in his time, the Southern Strategy didn't come out of nowhere.

Eishenhower-Rockefeller faded for Nixon-Reagan, Reagan-Bush faded for Perot-Trump.

Democrats have similar evolutions.

[Alben Barkley]

As I said last night, Vivek was the only candidate who attacked same-sex marriage and endorsed an illegal war of aggression. Therefore, HE was the one sounding like the 2004 GOP!

[Joe Biden 2028]

Elements of the old GOP is still there. Despite the "populism", the GOP is still the pro business party. Anti unions. Tax cuts and deregulations! Also cutting social services and the safety net to hurt poor people.

The big change is military intervention. No major Republican is willing to send ground troops anymore.

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Elements of the old GOP is still there. Despite the "populism", the GOP is still the pro business party.

It's not hard to be more populist than Michael Bloomberg's party.

[Non-consecutive Two Term Floridian]

Elements of the old GOP is still there. Despite the "populism", the GOP is still the pro business party. Anti unions. Tax cuts and deregulations! Also cutting social services and the safety net to hurt poor people.

The big change is military intervention. No major Republican is willing to send ground troops anymore.

I mean you had candidates last night who were open to invading Mexico “on day 1” of their term lmao