Does DeSantis regret his decision to run?
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« on: August 23, 2023, 06:00:55 PM »

Surely he has to realize by now, at least in the privacy of his own thoughts, that he made a mistake.

I don't believe he can possibly be thinking "and I'd do it all over again the same way."

I have to think that by this point he regrets it, and wishes that he would have waited until 2028 when he could have a clean shot without Trump.

It's not that he wasn't warned, but he didn't listen.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2023, 06:34:13 PM »

I believe whether or not he regrets will become clear after this first debate.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2023, 06:41:34 PM »

I think he regrets the resign to run law, which caused him to launch his campaign all the way in late May, when his polling numbers have already dropped significantly from the peak and people have forgotten about him as a threat to Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2023, 06:43:17 PM »

However much he regrets it now, I'm confident he will regret it more by the time the primaries are over.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2023, 06:46:33 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2023, 06:50:31 PM by riverwalk3 »

Even though DeSantis's campaign was supposed to reset, the more his numbers fall, the crazier he becomes, leading to a self perpetuating cycle.

He needs to let go of his panicky emotions, which are possibly clouding his judgment right now. If he realizes now that he can't win, he needs to find the least damaging way to drop out.

Also, DeSantis announced his campaign exactly 1 year after the Uvalde school shooting, which is a strange date. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was a coincidence, although I wouldn't be surprised it was intentional given the type of person revealed by his actions on the campaign trail later.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2023, 07:15:10 PM »

Back in December I was very confident that DeSantis and the other "serious" candidates would avoid this race in favor of 2028. In hindsight my analysis was largely correct, aside from my supposition that DeSantis might actually be smart enough to see this. I failed to account for just how much the ego blinds people to reality.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2023, 07:18:32 PM »

I mean what else were his options? He can't run for re-election in 2026 and neither senate race is up. 2028 he would have been out of office for two years and lost relevancy. Just because he is failing right now doesn't mean it wasn't the best oppurtunity for him.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2023, 07:34:00 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2023, 07:37:43 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I mean what else were his options? He can't run for re-election in 2026 and neither senate race is up. 2028 he would have been out of office for two years and lost relevancy. Just because he is failing right now doesn't mean it wasn't the best oppurtunity for him.


The problem for Rs is regulation IAN was regulation and Rs want to Deregulation with tax cuts for the rich FL and NH have zero state income tax but Seniors in FL at the national level want to keep seeing their SSDI checks raised and the cap is only 150K on SSDI and it hasnt been raised just like immigration reform son e 1986 due to Reagan with a D Speaker not R Speaker Tip ONeil

That's why Ron DeSantis and tok Trump will fail Biden is up 47/41 on Trump in You Gov polls


Why do you think Sandy was a missed opportunity for Christie Obama got all the credit and Maui HI still gonna vote with Maxie Hirono 75/25 Biden and OH spill it was going against Biden but Rs lost the OH special Eday because it was Trump Deregulation that caused the spill

Since the Pandemic it's Regulation not Deregulation


Just remember tax cuts for the rich is a Deregulation policy it removesiney from the Treasury for social programs because we rely on rich people taxes to fund social programs that's why Biden said all tax cuts for the poor will remains
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2023, 07:37:28 PM »

He still thinks he can save this. And who knows, maybe he can!

After all, the first debate hasn't even happened yet. There are months until New Hampshire. In a normal primary candidates rise and fall over the course of the campaign. Even the incumbent President came in fifth in New Hampshire and then ran the table the back half of primary season, so clearly it's possible to come from behind.

These are the sorts of thoughts going through Meatball Ron's head right now. He doesn't regret it yet.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2023, 07:38:55 PM »

He still thinks he can save this. And who knows, maybe he can!

After all, the first debate hasn't even happened yet. There are months until New Hampshire. In a normal primary candidates rise and fall over the course of the campaign. Even the incumbent President came in fifth in New Hampshire and then ran the table the back half of primary season, so clearly it's possible to come from behind.

These are the sorts of thoughts going through Meatball Ron's head right now. He doesn't regret it yet.


He is down 5 pts to Biden he voted for the Trump tax cuts in the H he will get hit by Biden for tax cuts like Trump already did in 20

Biden already said if you make less than 400K your tax cuts will remain and it should


Christ was a Compassionate Conserv Christian that's where compassionate Conserv came from tax cuts for rich is hoarding wealth like he said to Pharasiees
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2023, 07:48:47 PM »

He still thinks he can save this. And who knows, maybe he can!

After all, the first debate hasn't even happened yet. There are months until New Hampshire. In a normal primary candidates rise and fall over the course of the campaign. Even the incumbent President came in fifth in New Hampshire and then ran the table the back half of primary season, so clearly it's possible to come from behind.

These are the sorts of thoughts going through Meatball Ron's head right now. He doesn't regret it yet.

If I was in his shoes, I wouldn't regret running quite yet, but I would perhaps have considered a different or at least less narrowly focused campaign. Events have almost completely forced him into the "capitalize on Trump getting lawsuited out of viable presidential candidacy" boat with a bunch of others. And while he may be  best positioned right now on paper for such an event, in practice Trump or at least his diehard delegate slates would prefer anything to letting things slip away, whatever that entails.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2023, 08:47:25 PM »

Almost certainly. And he can't bail this early either. It's a rock and a hard place scenario for him.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2023, 09:31:58 PM »

Does DeSantis regret his decision to run? The real question is whether DeSantis regrets his decision to Ron...
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2023, 10:14:14 PM »

No, he just regrets the decisions of voters and other candidates not to recognize his greatness.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2023, 10:45:52 PM »

I mean what else were his options? He can't run for re-election in 2026 and neither senate race is up. 2028 he would have been out of office for two years and lost relevancy. Just because he is failing right now doesn't mean it wasn't the best oppurtunity for him.

Why does everyone say this? He'd leave the Governor's race in January 2027. If he announces that spring, he'll only have been out of office for like 4-5 months. The timing is actually perfect!
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2023, 01:58:28 PM »

Probably. I'm actually surprised he went with it. He looked his best in late 2022. Won re-election by 19 points and Trump was blamed for national poor performance. Than Bragg indicted Trump in March and he's been getting stronger sense. I thought the delay until the Summer to announce was him thinking about not entering with Trump getting stronger

A DeSantis nomination only made sense if Trump didn't run or was arrested.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2023, 02:06:59 PM »

probably. He's seeing he has no path to victory, ruined any future he had in politics, ruined a bunch of friendships to run for president. it wasn't worth it.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2023, 02:15:28 PM »

The Rs are gonna lose anyways because the message of IAB, Maui and even Christian with Sandy is reliance of Get VT we started the Great Recession in 2008 we just had another one on 3)17)2o but with a Pandemic with Obamacare becoming popular and he voted for the Trump tax cutter n 2017

The country is right where we were in 20 not 22 because in 2o OH was a swing state and FL was a battleground and was 3 pts Rs and Scott is 3 pts up on Phil Ehr it's not rightward like in 22
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2023, 02:16:48 PM »

I mean what else were his options? He can't run for re-election in 2026 and neither senate race is up. 2028 he would have been out of office for two years and lost relevancy. Just because he is failing right now doesn't mean it wasn't the best oppurtunity for him.

Why does everyone say this? He'd leave the Governor's race in January 2027. If he announces that spring, he'll only have been out of office for like 4-5 months. The timing is actually perfect!

This is what I think Whitmer should do if she wants to run then too. It doesn't sit well with me to get given such a decisive mandate to continue leading your state then shortly after announce that you're knocking them down the pecking order to pursue higher places. I'm hoping DeSantis's in-state approvals take a good knock from this, though the chances of D's flipping the governorship in 2026 remain minimal.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2023, 02:21:21 PM »

I don't see any path for him to win the nomination. It looks like even if Trump has to withdraw, the MAGA base will move to Vivek now that DeSantis has attacked their golden calf. Nikki Haley seems like a more viable anti-Trump candidate after her debate perforamnce.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2023, 02:32:18 PM »

I mean what else were his options? He can't run for re-election in 2026 and neither senate race is up. 2028 he would have been out of office for two years and lost relevancy. Just because he is failing right now doesn't mean it wasn't the best oppurtunity for him.

Why does everyone say this? He'd leave the Governor's race in January 2027. If he announces that spring, he'll only have been out of office for like 4-5 months. The timing is actually perfect!

That was my view too, he had no reason to run in 2024 unless Trump dropped out.

DeSantis is a sap for believing the false arguments by Never-Trumpers who pumped his candidacy, about how he has to run in 2024.

Their agenda was never to elect DeSantis, but use him to stop Trump and then dump him.

He failed and the dumping came earlier than planned.
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2023, 02:44:35 PM »

I don't see any path for him to win the nomination. It looks like even if Trump has to withdraw, the MAGA base will move to Vivek now that DeSantis has attacked their golden calf. Nikki Haley seems like a more viable anti-Trump candidate after her debate perforamnce.
Nikki Haley, Hutchinson, Christie will fight it out for the 10% of self-described Republicans who last voted Republican 10 years ago.

They are considered as fringe and loonies by the other 90%.
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