If Trump wins in 2024 will a Democrat ever be elected president again?
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« on: August 19, 2023, 05:26:59 PM »

If Donald Trump returns to power in 2024 will a Democrat ever be elected president again?
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2023, 05:32:09 PM »

Most likely in 2028.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2023, 05:46:22 PM »

Of course. Neither major party will ever truly go extinct.

Hell, 2028 would probably be likely D at worst. And you better believe that 2026 would be a bloodbath for the GOP and further erode their power in certain states.

Now, could some sort of electoral subversion f***ery happen with Trump in the White House and in the nightmare scenario of him having another trifecta? Maybe, but Democrats building a line of defense at the state level in some of the major swing states in 2022 probably prevents anything like that from mattering in a national election.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2023, 05:56:25 PM »

Of course. Neither major party will ever truly go extinct.

Hell, 2028 would probably be likely D at worst. And you better believe that 2026 would be a bloodbath for the GOP and further erode their power in certain states.

Now, could some sort of electoral subversion f***ery happen with Trump in the White House and in the nightmare scenario of him having another trifecta? Maybe, but Democrats building a line of defense at the state level in some of the major swing states in 2022 probably prevents anything like that from mattering in a national election.

The thing is, is Trump even interested in stealing elections for anyone other than himself?
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2023, 05:57:45 PM »

Of course. Neither major party will ever truly go extinct.

Hell, 2028 would probably be likely D at worst. And you better believe that 2026 would be a bloodbath for the GOP and further erode their power in certain states.

Now, could some sort of electoral subversion f***ery happen with Trump in the White House and in the nightmare scenario of him having another trifecta? Maybe, but Democrats building a line of defense at the state level in some of the major swing states in 2022 probably prevents anything like that from mattering in a national election.

The thing is, is Trump even interested in stealing elections for anyone other than himself?

It might be the kind of thing he proposes to garner loyalty from other Republicans in Congress or in states but otherwise, no.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2023, 06:08:28 PM »

Of course. Neither major party will ever truly go extinct.

Hell, 2028 would probably be likely D at worst. And you better believe that 2026 would be a bloodbath for the GOP and further erode their power in certain states.

Now, could some sort of electoral subversion f***ery happen with Trump in the White House and in the nightmare scenario of him having another trifecta? Maybe, but Democrats building a line of defense at the state level in some of the major swing states in 2022 probably prevents anything like that from mattering in a national election.

The thing is, is Trump even interested in stealing elections for anyone other than himself?

It might be the kind of thing he proposes to garner loyalty from other Republicans in Congress or in states but otherwise, no.

Another issue is that Trump has no control over election administration and certification in any states or in congress, and there aren’t any election deniers in power who will be wiling to help him, nor will their be at least 218 congressmen and 50 senators willing to overturn an election at any point in time.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2023, 06:15:27 PM »

2028 is gone. 2032 is possible
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2023, 06:17:49 PM »

Yes, 2028 would be the best performance for a Democratic candidate since Obama 08. It’d probably be a really great candidate too like Whitmer or Warnock. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2023, 06:19:57 PM »

If Republicans (and their fellows) successfully elect Donald Trump in 2024, whether or not there is another Democratic President will be irrelevant because the United States will be unable to recover. Not because Donald himself will be so wretched as President (though he will be awful beyond easy imagination) but because America will have chosen to abandon democracy and rule of law, and there is no return from such a choice. Oh, a different nation may be rebuilt on the ruins of the old, and certain names and institutions may be retained, but it will not be the United States of America any more than the polity that was end by the Treaty of Sevres was the same one that elected Julius Caesar consul. When the public votes to overturn every norm and law, "who will win the next election" is the wrong question.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2023, 07:14:13 PM »

Let me ask you a question, OP: does your question take into account the possibility of Trump doing things like declaring martial law, suspending the constitution, ruling by decree, etc. (similar to what Alberto Fujimori did in Peru in 1992)?
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