When did your perception of DeSantis change?

[The Economy is Getting Worse]

Although I always had an uneasy feeling about him even when I agreed with him on COVID, with his China rhetoric and war on Disney, I never truly disliked him until I saw his face spinning on a sonnenrad.

[Da2017]

I never liked him to begin with.Hard to pinpoint one specific thing. I went with war on Disney because I like Disney. The whole fight the woke came off to me as immature. Since than i've thought he was unfit to be president. His whole anti woke rhetoric is cartoonish.

[Pericles]

I never liked him.

[Aurelius2]

It wasn't one particular thing, more the sum of his actions in Jan-Feb 2023. The 6 week abortion ban, though, was when I realized he'd lost the formula that made him so appealing from 2018-2022. Fundamentally I think that (1) his landslide got to his head, and (2) he doesn't understand *why* he won by such a big margin in the first place.

I was a huge stan through his first term. Hell hath no fury like a stan scorned. I now hope to see his total destruction.

His covid policy in 2020-21 was the best thing about him, btw.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Lol he ran on IAN on regulation as I have said we are in a Pandemic Deregulation doesn't work anymore with tax cuts that's why Maui isn't gonna doom Biden

The homeless are at risk in Los Angeles due to a 🌀 the Rs tried to put wori requirements on food stamps the same people on SSDI aren't gonna be mandated to work

It's still gonna be Labor shortage, Boehner goofed when he didn't raise the minimum wage when there were no Labor shortage and it's still 7.25 an hr

[Agafin]

It wasn't one particular thing, more the sum of his actions in Jan-Feb 2023. The 6 week abortion ban, though, was when I realized he'd lost the formula that made him so appealing from 2018-2022. Fundamentally I think that (1) his landslide got to his head, and (2) he doesn't understand *why* he won by such a big margin in the first place.

I was a huge stan through his first term. Hell hath no fury like a stan scorned. I now hope to see his total destruction.

His covid policy in 2020-21 was the best thing about him, btw.

I completely agree with all of this. Especially the bolded, 2022 Desantis wouldn't have done something so dumb. I guess that's a consequence of running against Trump in a republican primary, he tried to outflank him to the right but it just didn't work.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Never liked him, but my thinking around him sure has shifted. At first, I saw him as evil and conniving. I still see him as evil, but the War on Disney made me realize he is far less competent than I thought. I suppose that’s a good thing, as it means he’ll never be president, but he’s still pretty scary for anyone belonging to a marginalized community in Florida.

[🥥🌴]

He does make Trump look sane, reasonable and human.

[Senator Incitatus]

Around 2021, I heard second-hand about how personally weird he was. Nothing offensive, just not someone who would hold up in the spotlight. Zero charisma.

[Averroës]

If there's one moment that demonstrates his weakness, it's not any of these.

Here's what is: The pre-emptive pledge that he would not assist with Trump's extradition, a statement made in the immediate aftermath of the initial indictment, when there was no need to say anything.

In that moment, it was clear that he wasn't ready to move beyond playing the lickspittle.

DeSantis was never going to campaign against Trump in a way that would satisfy liberals, but his campaign has failed completely in making a case for nominating him rather than the frontrunner whose support almost always polls in the majority.

DeSantis came into the year with immense popularity among Republicans and a third of them in his corner. He could have used that credibility to build a distinct case in favor of moving on from Trump, one that didn't rely on the clichés of either liberals or the "legacy GOP." But he squandered the opportunity. Never in the history of presidential primaries has a frontrunner been treated with such cloying subservience by his competitors.

In the words of Andrew Cuomo: "He stood behind the leader. He held the leader's coat. He was a great assistant to the leader. But he was not a leader."

A candidate can recover from a sloppy campaign. A candidate can overcome personal weaknesses. A candidate can even win a major party nomination in spite of his extreme views. We've seen all of these happen before. But no one gets to the top of a mountain that they're not even trying to climb.

[TodayJunior]

Other: that infamous primary ad with his kids where he kissed trumps arse. He never sat well with me after that, and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Can’t remember if that was before the “monkey it up” comment or not. Eh, it’s irrelevant anyway.

This is why his epic fall from grace on the national stage is so delicious. He’s managed to piss off everyone!! You come at the king, you best not miss.

[Roll Roons]

It wasn't one particular thing, more the sum of his actions in Jan-Feb 2023. The 6 week abortion ban, though, was when I realized he'd lost the formula that made him so appealing from 2018-2022. Fundamentally I think that (1) his landslide got to his head, and (2) he doesn't understand *why* he won by such a big margin in the first place.

I was a huge stan through his first term. Hell hath no fury like a stan scorned. I now hope to see his total destruction.

His covid policy in 2020-21 was the best thing about him, btw.

Yeah, I hated how the media covered him on COVID and it made me want to support him even more. I didn't love his feud with Disney, but I was willing to look past it because of that. It's only more recently that he's gone off the deep end with the extreme homophobia/4chan stuff.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Gotta be the War on Disney, before that it felt like he was just doing performative anti-woke nonsense to gin up positive news cycles and create talking points for the debate stage.  But when he went after Disney I realized that he was a buffoon who had no idea what he was doing.  Maybe he thought he was Trump and would be able to do whatever he wanted without facing any consequences?  As expected, he looks to have stepped on one of the biggest rakes in political history as now he's being buried by massive lawsuits by Florida's most powerful corporation while whimpering like a beat dog in the press about how it's "time to move on" and "I want to put this behind me" and "all I wanted was to treat everyone fairly"

[The Economy is Getting Worse]

Gotta be the War on Disney, before that it felt like he was just doing performative anti-woke nonsense to gin up positive news cycles and create talking points for the debate stage.  But when he went after Disney I realized that he was a buffoon who had no idea what he was doing.  Maybe he thought he was Trump and would be able to do whatever he wanted without facing any consequences?  As expected, he looks to have stepped on one of the biggest rakes in political history as now he's being buried by massive lawsuits by Florida's most powerful corporation while whimpering like a beat dog in the press about how it's "time to move on" and "I want to put this behind me" and "all I wanted was to treat everyone fairly"

I wish that was DeSantis, but that actually describes Trump better. DeSantis is an authoritarian who knows full well what he's doing. He's basically what Democrats thought Trump would be in 2016.

Florida-Gov 2026 is one of the few races where I'd support the Democrat, in fact. I would certainly do so if DeSantis changed the constitution and ran for a third term (not impossible, given that he has already done so to run for President), and would probably still do so even if the nominee were Moody/Donalds given the damage DeSantis has done.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I only started to dislike him after the 2022 midterms when he decided the Republican base was stupid enough to fall for his low-hanging woke fruit.

Needless to say, Republicans are not dumb, and will not let the culture war offer a backdoor chance for the Mitt Romneys of the world to reaffirm control of the GOP.

[2016]

I only started to dislike him after the 2022 midterms when he decided the Republican base was stupid enough to fall for his low-hanging woke fruit.

Needless to say, Republicans are not dumb, and will not let the culture war offer a backdoor chance for the Mitt Romneys of the world to reaffirm control of the GOP.

Your Orange King and Clown will go to PRISON!

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I only started to dislike him after the 2022 midterms when he decided the Republican base was stupid enough to fall for his low-hanging woke fruit.

Needless to say, Republicans are not dumb, and will not let the culture war offer a backdoor chance for the Mitt Romneys of the world to reaffirm control of the GOP.

Your Orange King and Clown will go to PRISON!

Where he will pay for your sins.

[2016]

I only started to dislike him after the 2022 midterms when he decided the Republican base was stupid enough to fall for his low-hanging woke fruit.

Needless to say, Republicans are not dumb, and will not let the culture war offer a backdoor chance for the Mitt Romneys of the world to reaffirm control of the GOP.

Your Orange King and Clown will go to PRISON!

Where he will pay for your sins.

My sins? I was always #NeverTrump, supported Rubio in 2016 and supported Trump in 2016 & 2020 GE more of necessity and not because I liked him.

Trump and MAGA have done irrepairable damage to the Republican Party and the Country and the Republican Party will continue to lose unless it gets rid of the White Supremacist #Cult45 MAGA!!!

[Mr. Smith]

Never liked him, but the lockdowns...or lack thereof put him from Nixonian to Bachmanian [as in Michele Bachman].

[Aurelius2]

I only started to dislike him after the 2022 midterms when he decided the Republican base was stupid enough to fall for his low-hanging woke fruit.

Needless to say, Republicans are not dumb, and will not let the culture war offer a backdoor chance for the Mitt Romneys of the world to reaffirm control of the GOP.

Your Orange King and Clown will go to PRISON!

Where he will pay for your sins.

My sins? I was always #NeverTrump, supported Rubio in 2016 and supported Trump in 2016 & 2020 GE more of necessity and not because I liked him.

Trump and MAGA have done irrepairable damage to the Republican Party and the Country and the Republican Party will continue to lose unless it gets rid of the White Supremacist #Cult45 MAGA!!!

You're European. Chill out. You're sounding like a Democrat too, btw.

[Consuming is good, it's what we're made for]

The moment I learned a single thing about him.

[Blow by blow, the passion dies]

I used to have no hard feelings on DeSanctimonious, but I dislike him since the Sonnenrad video

[MATTROSE94]

I fell kind of bad for Ron DeSantis TBH, as he is running a pointless vanity bid for President for no reason whatsoever. I also feel that he was used and manipulated by Donald Trump and that at his core, he is pretty much a standard neoliberal Republican.

[President Johnson]

Pretty much fron the start when he won his primary as a result of Trump's endorsement. And that pathetic campaign spot with his kids building a wall. I found it was tasteless and the guy just a fool.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Pretty much fron the start when he won his primary as a result of Trump's endorsement. And that pathetic campaign spot with his kids building a wall. I found it was tasteless and the guy just a fool.

It's a philosophy difference DeSantis voted for 2017 tax cuts in the H that's why he beat Putnam and NH and FL don't have state income taxes that's why Ayotte as of now is beating expectations and winning the NH Gov race but Craig will close the gap eventually but FL is an anti tax state at the state level but natl they believe in SSDI taxes because of retirees in the state

But, no tax cuts for the rich aren't gonna solve our problems


I have a sneaky suspicion about Emerson polls if they can't poll MI right how are we gonna trust them in NH G and they wrongly had Laxalt and Johnson last time +5

They have Trump and Biden tied no it's 5045 like last time because it's 65/60M more Ds than Rs due to metros and burbs v rural