Post your Biden vs. Trump, Biden vs. DeSantis maps in the case of a recession vs. no recession

[WalterWhite]

BIDEN VS. TRUMP - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. TRUMP - RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - RECESSION



Short explanation: Trump is a much better candidate than DeSantis overall, but especially in the Rust Belt. He has social and economic policies more appealing to voters in this region. To most voters, policy and economic conditions will matter much more than personal/legal troubles. In the event of a recession, ANY GOP candidate would be favored to win, but Trump moreso than DeSantis.

[SaneDemocrat]

How does Biden win Iowa but not PA?

[SaneDemocrat]

BIDEN VS. TRUMP - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. TRUMP - RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - RECESSION



Short explanation: Trump is a much better candidate than DeSantis overall, but especially in the Rust Belt. He has social and economic policies more appealing to voters in this region. To most voters, policy and economic conditions will matter much more than personal/legal troubles. In the event of a recession, ANY GOP candidate would be favored to win, but Trump moreso than DeSantis.

Can’t see Biden win Ohio

[MATTROSE94]

Biden vs DeSantis (No recession & no Trump third party bid):

President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 346 EVs (53%)
Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 192 EVs (45%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs DeSantis (Recession, but no Trump third Party run)

Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 324 EVs (51%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 214 EVs (47%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (No recession)

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 295 EVs (50%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 243 EVs (48%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (Recession):

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 441 EVs (66%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 97 EVs (32%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

[SaneDemocrat]

Biden vs DeSantis (No recession & no Trump third party bid):

President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 346 EVs (53%)
Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 192 EVs (45%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs DeSantis (Recession, but no Trump third Party run)

Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 324 EVs (51%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 214 EVs (47%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (No recession)

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 295 EVs (50%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 243 EVs (48%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (Recession):

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 441 EVs (66%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 97 EVs (32%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Troll

[WalterWhite]

Imagine being so irrational in your DeSantis hate that you think he'd lose Iowa in a GE

At least TRY putting your obvious biases aside to retain a shred of credibility when making these maps/threads

DeSantis would not have nearly the appeal to Obama/Trump that Trump has. These voters like Trump for his protectionism and "America First" platform, which DeSantis does not have. DeSantis also has more socially regressive viewpoints than Trump, which would hurt him in the secular North. This is why I think DeSantis would likely lose Iowa.

You cannot deny that Trump is the strongest candidate the GOP can nominate at the moment.

[WalterWhite]

Imagine being so irrational in your DeSantis hate that you think he'd lose Iowa in a GE

At least TRY putting your obvious biases aside to retain a shred of credibility when making these maps/threads

DeSantis would not have nearly the appeal to Obama/Trump that Trump has. These voters like Trump for his protectionism and "America First" platform, which DeSantis does not have. DeSantis also has more socially regressive viewpoints than Trump, which would hurt him in the secular North. This is why I think DeSantis would likely lose Iowa.

You cannot deny that Trump is the strongest candidate the GOP can nominate at the moment.

MATTROSE is a lot better at this than you, dude. And with less effort, too.

Shame because I like people who can make me laugh!

MATTROSE has a Republican winning New York and New Jersey FFS.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Biden vs DeSantis (No recession & no Trump third party bid):

President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 346 EVs (53%)
Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 192 EVs (45%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs DeSantis (Recession, but no Trump third Party run)

Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL)/House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 324 EVs (51%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 214 EVs (47%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (No recession)

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 295 EVs (50%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 243 EVs (48%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Biden vs Trump (Recession):

Former President Donald Trump (R-FL)/Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy (R-OH): 441 EVs (66%)
President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Kamala Harris (D-CA): 97 EVs (32%)
Others: 0 EVs (2%)

Lol 66% of the vote? This country is far too polarized for that to ever happen. Even Obama could not get anywhere close to that and he ran in the midst of the worst recession since 1929.

[MT Treasurer]

Imagine being so irrational in your DeSantis hate that you think he'd lose Iowa in a GE

At least TRY putting your obvious biases aside to retain a shred of credibility when making these maps/threads

DeSantis would not have nearly the appeal to Obama/Trump that Trump has. These voters like Trump for his protectionism and "America First" platform, which DeSantis does not have. DeSantis also has more socially regressive viewpoints than Trump, which would hurt him in the secular North. This is why I think DeSantis would likely lose Iowa.

You cannot deny that Trump is the strongest candidate the GOP can nominate at the moment.

MATTROSE is a lot better at this than you, dude. And with less effort, too.

Shame because I like people who can make me laugh!

MATTROSE has a Republican winning New York and New Jersey FFS.

Yes, because he's taking an inane premise to its logical conclusion and parodying the hell out of it. His maps have long been mere mockery of conventional wisdom/silly narratives on this forum.

[Radicalneo]

BIDEN VS. TRUMP - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - NO RECESSION



BIDEN VS. TRUMP - RECESSION



BIDEN VS. DESANTIS - RECESSION



Short explanation: Trump is a much better candidate than DeSantis overall, but especially in the Rust Belt. He has social and economic policies more appealing to voters in this region. To most voters, policy and economic conditions will matter much more than personal/legal troubles. In the event of a recession, ANY GOP candidate would be favored to win, but Trump moreso than DeSantis.

Agree

[The Economy is Getting Worse]

I'm starting to think DeSantis loses even with a recession, if he doesn't turn things around. The only reason why he has a chance is his opponent is Biden, who is in many ways even weaker. If Democrats were smart enough to kick Biden aside and nominate someone uncontroversial (like Evers), then DeSantis would surely lose even with a recession.

Iowa would absolutely be much closer with DeSantis, though not sure if it flips. In the same way, a lot of suburbs would revert significantly if Youngkin/Sununu were the nominee (ie tons of people like OSR would flip back), and ie Arizona surely flips back.

I'm starting to get the thought process of how people change parties and why. Midterms are not a very reliable indicator of future partisanship/trends - tons of people are stuck with their last voting patterns, especially with both Trump and Biden in the spotlight. A DeSantis led Republican party would make me vote Democrat for the first time (probably for President if Democrats nominate someone other than Biden), but I could see how I'd be a Democratic voter for his entire second term if he got one, only to flip back if the Republican nominee is headed by someone else (ie Youngkin).  

In general, tons of people change their minds when the top of the ticket changes (ie we saw a huge coalition change from 2012 to 2016). If the top of the ticket is very salient (such as Trump), then people's voting habits will be baked in for a while until their salience decreases.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Riverwalk thinks that Rs are gonna miraculously iverperform in 24 and they are 0/4 in 23 WI, FL and PA and Rs lost OA already in May and getting ready to be 0/5 with KYTrunp isn't gonna win anything he is a Convicted felon even 2016 says that

And they aren't winning PA where Shapiro won 60/40 where Bob Casey Jr is on the ballot and won by 18 in 2018 Brown is ahead because LaRose is another Josh Mandel

It's a 303 map with or without Recession because tax cuts 2017 are unpopular compared to 2016