DeSantis wants to sue Bud Light over Dylan Mulvaney sponsorship

[President Johnson]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The guy is quickly becoming the Republican caricature Democrats have been trying to paint decades now and nobody believed would exist in real life.

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

I'm calling for a total and complete shutdown of Florida until we can figure out what the hell is going on.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

[DaleCooper]

He's clearly a very foolish person. He was blessed with a stupid electorate.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

If we were like the UK no one like Trump ever would have sniffed power.

I mean Boris Johnson and Liz Truss were PMs of the UK, so I don't know about that.

[Stranger in a strange land]

LMAO.

How would he even have standing?

Florida pension funds hold stock in Anheuser-Busch, so the state is harmed if the Board of Directors doesn't fulfill its fiduciary responsibilities.  The company has a legal duty not to allow outside interests or personal beliefs to interfere with its responsibility to shareholders. 

It's actually not an incoherent argument, although it will most likely not make it very far in court. 

I don't think that it's fair to say that Anheuser-Busch should/could have foreseen the Republican meltdown over a sponsorship with one trans woman. It's not really reasonable to say that this was a violation of their fiduciary responsibility.

To be fair they probably should have been able to foresee that since Republicans have demonstrated for a while now, and the last year in particular, that they are very immature and mentally ill people, but even still the idea that stockholders can sue a company for putting a minority in a commercial is pretty ridiculous.

Companies make bad advertising and business decisions all the time, and doing so doesn't violate any sort of fiduciary responsibility, and allowing investors to sue for bad business decisions cuts at the very foundation of capitalism.

[ProudModerate2]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

Are you listening to yourself in this thread?
You are doing nothing but creating excuses for, and deflecting, from what the details of this exact situation are about. A beer company places a LGBT+ individual in a commercial, NutJob conservatives act psychotic over this, and DeSantis threatens that his state, or an agency of FL state gov, should/can sue for this.
Any reasonable person would just call this out as pure BS, and horrible policy/precedent. But not you.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

I'm pretty sure that the donor class would not like the fact that any random shareholder can second-guess via court every single business decision they make.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

I'm pretty sure that the donor class would not like the fact that any random shareholder can second-guess via court every single business decision they make.

Aren't the donor class more likely to be major shareholders then CEOs themselves though.

[Fascism Must Be Defeated]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

I'm pretty sure that the donor class would not like the fact that any random shareholder can second-guess via court every single business decision they make.

Aren't the donor class more likely to be major shareholders then CEOs themselves though.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they would like that someone can spuriously sue their source of money over a corporate decision, even if that's a power that extends to them as well.

[emailking]

"subsidizing an ideological agenda through woke virtue signaling"

wtf 😂

[SWE]

The guy just continues with his culture wars obsession because he believes the scores him points with the base instead of actually working issues that matter. At least I'm not reading or hearing anything about that.

Actually I think it might not be just be pandering to the base anymore really as keep in mind what this would do is give shareholders given expanded power to sue over fiduciary responsibilities which is something the donor class may like as that would expand their powers too.

I'm pretty sure that the donor class would not like the fact that any random shareholder can second-guess via court every single business decision they make.

Aren't the donor class more likely to be major shareholders then CEOs themselves though.

I would be very surprised if the idea of making it virtually impossible for corporations to function would be popular among most major shareholders

[Hammy]

It’s cause the people who are advising him are telling him this type of stuff will improve his chances of winning the primary.

So it's impossible that DeSantis just has bad judgement and skewed priorities? It's all because of his advisors?

It gets funnier when you stop to think his 'it's just the advisors' excuse basically means that DeSantis is utterly incapable of making a decision without somebody making it for him, and makes him look even more incompetent.

[GregTheGreat657]

He's well within his rights to not buy Bud Light or voice opposition to Bud Light if he disagrees, but Bud Light isn't doing anything illegal here

[Ferguson97]

Rubio a year ago basically did propose a bill a year ago that would give shareholders the ability to sue companies over stuff like this by claiming it violates their fiduciary responsibility. The reason for this is less about wokeness but more cause they want to bring corporate culture back to the Friedman definition where the only think corporations are worried about is pleasing their shareholders.

It's absolutely hysterical that you think that this bill is consistent with the principles of Milton Friedman.

[Aurelius2]

It’s cause the people who are advising him are telling him this type of stuff will improve his chances of winning the primary.

So it's impossible that DeSantis just has bad judgement and skewed priorities? It's all because of his advisors?

It gets funnier when you stop to think his 'it's just the advisors' excuse basically means that DeSantis is utterly incapable of making a decision without somebody making it for him, and makes him look even more incompetent.

"The king has a good heart, it must be his advisors' fault" is a trope going back to the dawn of time. People don't want to believe their heroes have gone astray.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It’s cause the people who are advising him are telling him this type of stuff will improve his chances of winning the primary.

So it's impossible that DeSantis just has bad judgement and skewed priorities? It's all because of his advisors?

It gets funnier when you stop to think his 'it's just the advisors' excuse basically means that DeSantis is utterly incapable of making a decision without somebody making it for him, and makes him look even more incompetent.

That’s how the vast majority of politicans backed by the establishment are like .

[Ferguson97]

It’s cause the people who are advising him are telling him this type of stuff will improve his chances of winning the primary.

So it's impossible that DeSantis just has bad judgement and skewed priorities? It's all because of his advisors?

It gets funnier when you stop to think his 'it's just the advisors' excuse basically means that DeSantis is utterly incapable of making a decision without somebody making it for him, and makes him look even more incompetent.

That’s how the vast majority of politicans backed by the establishment are like .

That's an indictment of the GOP establishment, not a defense of it.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It’s cause the people who are advising him are telling him this type of stuff will improve his chances of winning the primary.

So it's impossible that DeSantis just has bad judgement and skewed priorities? It's all because of his advisors?

It gets funnier when you stop to think his 'it's just the advisors' excuse basically means that DeSantis is utterly incapable of making a decision without somebody making it for him, and makes him look even more incompetent.

That’s how the vast majority of politicans backed by the establishment are like .

That's an indictment of the GOP establishment, not a defense of it.

I mean they would much prefer that the base just went along with whatever they wanted like they did prior to 2008

[OSR stands with Israel]

Rubio a year ago basically did propose a bill a year ago that would give shareholders the ability to sue companies over stuff like this by claiming it violates their fiduciary responsibility. The reason for this is less about wokeness but more cause they want to bring corporate culture back to the Friedman definition where the only think corporations are worried about is pleasing their shareholders.

It's absolutely hysterical that you think that this bill is consistent with the principles of Milton Friedman.

It wouldn’t but the overall change it would bring is to force companies to only care about their next quarterly profit and loss statements and nothing else .

It would be a pretty bad idea and I oppose these types of efforts

[Arizona Iced Tea]

DeSantis is actually building a death star designed to eradicate wokeness off the planet.

[Trump Is A Maoist]

One important aspect of this that hasn't been mentioned in this thread :

If instead of doing viral marketing with Dylan Mulvaney, Bud Light had instead done viral marketing with an anti-trans figure like Michael Knowles, saying things that are vaguely transphobic but not straight up obviously bigoted, we ALL know that DeSantis would be vocally against the idea of some state that has shares in Anheuser-Busch suing them for failing to uphold their fiduciary responsibility when the bigoted marketing backfired and hurt their stock.

Everybody here knows that. Liberals, progressives, conservatives, centrists. Maybe some right wingers won't admit it, but they know it. So when you really think about it, this is yet another case of Republican "it's okay / good when WE do it for OUR own purposes, but it's really bad / unacceptable when YOU do it for things that we don't agree with". Agendas SHOULD be pushed, and indoctrination SHOULD happen... but only when it agrees with conservatives? Just more clown politics that nobody should take seriously. You can be left right, right wing, whatever, I really don't care... but you need to be ideologically consistent, or you're being a clown that people shouldn't take seriously.

[ProudModerate2]

DeSantis is actually building a death star designed to eradicate wokeness off the planet.

Too bad ... because ...

[Zohranism is OUR future]

Rubio a year ago basically did propose a bill a year ago that would give shareholders the ability to sue companies over stuff like this by claiming it violates their fiduciary responsibility. The reason for this is less about wokeness but more cause they want to bring corporate culture back to the Friedman definition where the only think corporations are worried about is pleasing their shareholders.

You need help.

It's absolutely hysterical that you think that this bill is consistent with the principles of Milton Friedman.

It wouldn’t but the overall change it would bring is to force companies to only care about their next quarterly profit and loss statements and nothing else .

It would be a pretty bad idea and I oppose these types of efforts