Will no labels cost Biden the election

[Mr. Third-Wayist]

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[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

No because Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, had we went with Bernie or OMalley we could of won just like in 2004 we could of had a better Veep Gephardt or Wes Clark whom would of smoked Cheney in Veep debate on Natl Security

I supported OMalley but D politicians supported Hillary just like we didn't support Biden in the 20 he was helped by Bloomberg

If Biden won with 3 percentage pts in 20 that's proof he can win again with 3 rd party and no one has gotten over 3 since 1996 with Perot

Right now No Labels isn't on the ballots in all 50 AZ. cO, OR they aren't on OH, FL, TX, NC , MI, PA and WI  I see them getting on MN

Why are we so anxious we have until June 24

[LostInOhio]

It’s too early to tell. People generally like the idea of third parties more than the reality of them. I think it depends on just how scared people will be about a second Trump presidency by the time November 2024 rolls around - the third party vote wasn’t a factor in 2020 due to this.

Cornel West is a bit of a bigger threat than No Labels/Manchin IMO. Manchin has no base; Democrats hate him and no Republican is going to vote for him over Trump. However West might nab a couple thousands disaffected Leftists who voted Biden in 2020 because they were angry over Trump’s handling of the pandemic, recession and social unrest. If the margin is tight it certainly could cause problems - I could see Trump winning maybe Wisconsin or Arizona over it.

[Ferguson97]

Cornel West is a bit of a bigger threat than No Labels/Manchin IMO.

I don't really get the argument that some random guy is a bigger threat than an incumbent US Senator.

[Alben Barkley]

Possibly, if they actually run a serious candidate with a serious campaign. But there’s a lot of hedging in their non-announcement:

He said he hopes it won’t be necessary but that if by Super Tuesday “we see the final two candidates” as Trump and Biden, “we will present a president and vice president ... if we see we have an opportunity to win.”

“If we see we have an opportunity to win?” Well they’re a third party so they WOB’T have an opportunity to win. They’d have to get peak Ross Perot level support in the polls to even delude themselves into thinking they do.

In any case they could draw some moderate Republicans who might have held their nose and voted for Trump or just not voted anyway, so it could more or less cancel out.

[falling apart like the ashes of American flags]

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You thought Kanye West would cost Biden the election.

[Mr. Third-Wayist]

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You thought Kanye West would cost Biden the election.

And I do not think this is gonna lead anywhere, just wanted to see what the general attitude was.

[DaleCooper]

They'll get 1-2% of the vote and I am not convinced that will come mostly from Democrats.

[Talk Elections Oracle]

No, of course not.

Cornel West is a bit of a bigger threat than No Labels/Manchin IMO.

I don't really get the argument that some random guy is a bigger threat than an incumbent US Senator.

Better-organized campaign; ballot access; enthusiasm; distinct message; existing base of support within national electorate.

[MATTROSE94]

Easily. Even though Joe Manchin would only carry Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Alaska, having him on the ballot would flip all of the Biden +10 or less states to Donald Trump.

[MillennialModerate]

Easily. Even though Joe Manchin would only carry Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Alaska, having him on the ballot would flip all of the Biden +10 or less states to Donald Trump.

You are high if you think Manchin would carry even one state

[Talk Elections Oracle]

Joe Manchin would ONLY carry Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Alaska

lol

flip all of the Biden +10 or less states to Donald Trump.

hahaha

You are high if you think Manchin is going to carry even one state

[President Johnson]

I actually doubt such a ticket seriously happens. There's always talk of a "moderate independent candidate" and ultimately never happens.

[Duke 🇺🇸]

Easily. Even though Joe Manchin would only carry Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Alaska, having him on the ballot would flip all of the Biden +10 or less states to Donald Trump.

Lol no. But he could siphon off enough votes from Biden to flip swing states to Trump

[Anti-Penguin Tariff Voter]

At best No Labels forces Trump into a plurality in Utah again

[Talk Elections Oracle]

No Labels goes into a plurality

Highly doubtful. A unique set of circumstances converged in 2016 (Trump's weakness, favourite home-state boy McMullin, even Gary Johnson as a Libertarian to some extent) that won't be true again for 2024, though my disclaimer is that their ticket could surge and get a significant share (in Utah) if any of Huntsman, Romney, Hatch (unlikely), etc. is on the ballot there.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

There is no red wave in site why because the H favs the Ds and the Eday is gonna flow  the way of the H is just posted OH numbers as usual the users believe OH is IA just because Ryan lost in a midterm and Barnes lost too in WI and Wzi turned blue with Janet Protasisaweicwz

There isnt the same OH we lost in 22 DeWine pushed Vance over the edge Whaley was a failed candidate, not Ryan and Landsman would be a great candidate in 28 against Vance and so will Rodriguez be against Gallagher Johnson is retiring in a Prez Edays and Cornyn will retire in 26 if ALLRED wins in and Rodriguez runs in 26

We are still in a Great Recession Environment and everyone but Trump and DeSantis knows that we can't go back to Trump 2o17 Super tax cuts for the wealthy , that's why McCain lost due to Bush W tax cuts in 2000, and were pushed in a 2008 Great Recession another one was 3/17/20

[HAMMERS]

No because Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, had we went with Bernie or OMalley we could of won just like in 2004 we could of had a better Veep Gephardt or Wes Clark whom would of smoked Cheney in Veep debate on Natl Security

I supported OMalley but D politicians supported Hillary just like we didn't support Biden in the 20 he was helped by Bloomberg

If Biden won with 3 percentage pts in 20 that's proof he can win again with 3 rd party and no one has gotten over 3 since 1996 with Perot

Right now No Labels isn't on the ballots in all 50 AZ. cO, OR they aren't on OH, FL, TX, NC , MI, PA and WI  I see them getting on MN

Why are we so anxious we have until June 24

WTF is could "of"?    That expression has no meaning in the English language.   It should be COULD HAVE.

[Zohranism is OUR future]

No because Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, had we went with Bernie or OMalley we could of won just like in 2004 we could of had a better Veep Gephardt or Wes Clark whom would of smoked Cheney in Veep debate on Natl Security

I supported OMalley but D politicians supported Hillary just like we didn't support Biden in the 20 he was helped by Bloomberg

If Biden won with 3 percentage pts in 20 that's proof he can win again with 3 rd party and no one has gotten over 3 since 1996 with Perot

Right now No Labels isn't on the ballots in all 50 AZ. cO, OR they aren't on OH, FL, TX, NC , MI, PA and WI  I see them getting on MN

Why are we so anxious we have until June 24

WTF is could "of"?    That expression has no meaning in the English language.   It should be COULD HAVE.

You have a lot to learn on this site my friend.

[インターネット掲示板ユーザー Punxsutawney Phil]

No because Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, had we went with Bernie or OMalley we could of won just like in 2004 we could of had a better Veep Gephardt or Wes Clark whom would of smoked Cheney in Veep debate on Natl Security

I supported OMalley but D politicians supported Hillary just like we didn't support Biden in the 20 he was helped by Bloomberg

If Biden won with 3 percentage pts in 20 that's proof he can win again with 3 rd party and no one has gotten over 3 since 1996 with Perot

Right now No Labels isn't on the ballots in all 50 AZ. cO, OR they aren't on OH, FL, TX, NC , MI, PA and WI  I see them getting on MN

Why are we so anxious we have until June 24

WTF is could "of"?    That expression has no meaning in the English language.   It should be COULD HAVE.

You have a lot to learn on this site my friend.

Quite.

[MATTROSE94]

Easily. Even though Joe Manchin would only carry Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, and Alaska, having him on the ballot would flip all of the Biden +10 or less states to Donald Trump.

You are high if you think Manchin would carry even one state

Those states are Republican, but lukewarm about Donald Trump and could be swayed by a third party independent Presidential candidate.

[HAMMERS]

No because Biden is a stronger candidate than Hillary, had we went with Bernie or OMalley we could of won just like in 2004 we could of had a better Veep Gephardt or Wes Clark whom would of smoked Cheney in Veep debate on Natl Security

I supported OMalley but D politicians supported Hillary just like we didn't support Biden in the 20 he was helped by Bloomberg

If Biden won with 3 percentage pts in 20 that's proof he can win again with 3 rd party and no one has gotten over 3 since 1996 with Perot

Right now No Labels isn't on the ballots in all 50 AZ. cO, OR they aren't on OH, FL, TX, NC , MI, PA and WI  I see them getting on MN

Why are we so anxious we have until June 24

WTF is could "of"?    That expression has no meaning in the English language.   It should be COULD HAVE.

You have a lot to learn on this site my friend.

Do teach me then, kind sir.   

[Talk Elections Oracle]

Please teach me, kind sir.

First of all, "sir" is a no-go—but  with time, you shall learn ...

Those states are Republican but could be swayed by a third-party independent presidential candidate.

Lol; lmao, even.

[PSOL]

Will take voters from both, no effect

[Joe Biden 2028]

If they run a big name like Manchin, than yes