Casey DeSantis launches Nationwide "Mamas for DeSantis"

[DrScholl]

The Clintons put together have far more education and accomplishments than either of the DeSantis. Hillary Clinton's JD is far more impressive than Casey DeSantis' BS in Economics (which is basically a degree for show). As stupid as Ron DeSantis sounds it's hard to tell he even has a JD. At least Bill Clinton actually speaks as if he is educated.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

DeSantis should have ran this ad rather than the one he ran at the end of the pride month . It honestly shows how terrible of a job Pushpaw is doing even more .

Never too late to jump on the Trump Train!

I am not gonna vote for someone who I think has threatened our national security multiple times(Jan 6th, the Documents) and someone who I think should go to prison for that.

If Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 by dropping out after losing the election and blaming the media(both cable news and social) for his defeat rather than the stolen election bs, as well as returning the documents when asked, then I could see my self backing his 2024 bid. Those two things did not happen though , and I just cannot overlook them.

Thank you for saying this.

I know we disagree, often vehemently for my part, on a great deal (including both DeSantis' chances and what sort of President he would be), but much as I dislike Republicans overall, there is a huge quantum gap between Donald Trump and every other GOP candidate, including Ronald DeSantis: Donald Trump is utterly unfit to be President, in a way that no other candidate who has not held and abused that office can possibly be.

While I find the chances of DeSantis' winning the White House to be vanishingly small to the point of non-existence, if he is somehow elected, he would be legitimately be President (even if one I would certainly despise). Donald Trump, alone in the Republican field, has already disqualified himself from that office in every way save the most technical legalities.

If more Republicans would have the basic respect for our country to take OSR's position, it would be a key step to putting our America back on a much needed path towards sanity. I thank him for being willing to take a stand against the Trumpist tide.

[Horus]

DeSantis should have ran this ad rather than the one he ran at the end of the pride month . It honestly shows how terrible of a job Pushpaw is doing even more .

Never too late to jump on the Trump Train!

I am not gonna vote for someone who I think has threatened our national security multiple times(Jan 6th, the Documents) and someone who I think should go to prison for that.

If Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 by dropping out after losing the election and blaming the media(both cable news and social) for his defeat rather than the stolen election bs, as well as returning the documents when asked, then I could see my self backing his 2024 bid. Those two things did not happen though , and I just cannot overlook them.

Thank you for saying this.

I know we disagree, often vehemently for my part, on a great deal (including both DeSantis' chances and what sort of President he would be), but much as I dislike Republicans overall, there is a huge quantum gap between Donald Trump and every other GOP candidate, including Ronald DeSantis: Donald Trump is utterly unfit to be President, in a way that no other candidate who has not held and abused that office can possibly be.

While I find the chances of DeSantis' winning the White House to be vanishingly small to the point of non-existence, if he is somehow elected, he would be legitimately be President (even if one I would certainly despise). Donald Trump, alone in the Republican field, has already disqualified himself from that office in every way save the most technical legalities.

If more Republicans would have the basic respect for our country to take OSR's position, it would be a key step to putting our America back on a much needed path towards sanity. I thank him for being willing to take a stand against the Trumpist tide.

The only issue where DeSantis is more sane than Trump is election denial, and even that is increasingly questionable. Maybe Russia/Ukraine as well though Rob has sounded increasingly Trumpist on that front lately.

Unless the end all be all of sanity for you is whether a person accepts the results of the 2020 election, there is no way that DeSantis would put our country back on a sane path. The man governs Florida like a far more hateful and also far more competent version of Trump.

[Thank you for being a friend...]

I don't see the anti-LGBTQ crap as really a good focus for the Presidency.  Unless they want to burn the rainbow flag every day outside the White House... there is a risk I hope in being associated with an unapologetic hostility towards LGBTQ people.

If the DeSantises take over the White House, I actually think nothing could do more to light a fire underneath everyday LGBTQ people as that would.  Not activists, but the everyday population.  You'd have a White House that was completely associated with antigay activism, and I hope that would create its own Backlash.

To every backlash there can be another.

[OSR stands with Israel]

DeSantis should have ran this ad rather than the one he ran at the end of the pride month . It honestly shows how terrible of a job Pushpaw is doing even more .

Never too late to jump on the Trump Train!

I am not gonna vote for someone who I think has threatened our national security multiple times(Jan 6th, the Documents) and someone who I think should go to prison for that.

If Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 by dropping out after losing the election and blaming the media(both cable news and social) for his defeat rather than the stolen election bs, as well as returning the documents when asked, then I could see my self backing his 2024 bid. Those two things did not happen though , and I just cannot overlook them.

Thank you for saying this.

I know we disagree, often vehemently for my part, on a great deal (including both DeSantis' chances and what sort of President he would be), but much as I dislike Republicans overall, there is a huge quantum gap between Donald Trump and every other GOP candidate, including Ronald DeSantis: Donald Trump is utterly unfit to be President, in a way that no other candidate who has not held and abused that office can possibly be.

While I find the chances of DeSantis' winning the White House to be vanishingly small to the point of non-existence, if he is somehow elected, he would be legitimately be President (even if one I would certainly despise). Donald Trump, alone in the Republican field, has already disqualified himself from that office in every way save the most technical legalities.

If more Republicans would have the basic respect for our country to take OSR's position, it would be a key step to putting our America back on a much needed path towards sanity. I thank him for being willing to take a stand against the Trumpist tide.

The only issue where DeSantis is more sane than Trump is election denial, and even that is increasingly questionable.

Unless the end all be all of sanity for you is whether a person accepts the results of the 2020 election, there is no way that DeSantis would put our country back on a normal path.

You are acting like though election denial was all Trump did though . Trump could have said the election was rigged but after SCOTUS ruled against him , he could have dropped out and said we need to respect the rule of law . He did not do that though and instead hatched a fake electoral scheme , tried to get the DOJ to perjure themselves in efforts to overturn the election , pressured Pence to illegally throw out EV and took forever to respond while the Capitol riot was going on .

Acting like all Trump did was say the election was rigged is false because he went far further than that . He actively undermined the rule of law in effort to overturn the election .

Trump also has shown flagrant violations of our national security with his handling of classified info

[South Dakota Democrat]

Trump is inevitably going to go after her like he did Cruz's wife and other people's families

Except that this will have the opposite effect. If Trump goes after Casey his Campaign is finished.

Narrator:  No it won't be.

[South Dakota Democrat]

This is just the same creepy message the far right uses to spread anti-LGBTQ information. No one in the government is coming for anyone's children. And why are we running on Covid policies when the pandemic is over?

DOJ labelled Parents "Domestic Terrorists". This came directly out of the mouth of AG Merrick Garland. Why do you think Youngkin won in VA in 2021. It was because of the Parents Rights & Education Issues.

Critical Race Theory needs to be banned nationally from the United States of America!

Can you link that for me?

Aren't governments in places like Florida controlling what books kids read and what kids learn in school? That doesn't sound very hands off to me. It sounds like government bureaucrats are running the education system rather than education professions.

It only happened after McAuliffe told Parents to shut up! McAuliffe literally created this Movement in Virginia and elsewhere.

Randi Weingarten needs to be in Prison. We need to have School Choice nationally and Teachers Unions need to be abolished and dismantled for what they did all those years.

What are you smoking?  And can I have some?

[South Dakota Democrat]

This is just the same creepy message the far right uses to spread anti-LGBTQ information. No one in the government is coming for anyone's children. And why are we running on Covid policies when the pandemic is over?

DOJ labelled Parents "Domestic Terrorists". This came directly out of the mouth of AG Merrick Garland. Why do you think Youngkin won in VA in 2021. It was because of the Parents Rights & Education Issues.

Critical Race Theory needs to be banned nationally from the United States of America!

Can you link that for me?

Aren't governments in places like Florida controlling what books kids read and what kids learn in school? That doesn't sound very hands off to me. It sounds like government bureaucrats are running the education system rather than education professions.

It only happened after McAuliffe told Parents to shut up! McAuliffe literally created this Movement in Virginia and elsewhere.

Randi Weingarten needs to be in Prison. We need to have School Choice nationally and Teachers Unions need to be abolished and dismantled for what they did all those years.

McAullife was right though. As an educator, parents should have *far less* control over curriculum. They’re not experts and, in many cases, are less educated than the teachers they’re seeking to overrule. Patients don’t walk into hospitals and tell surgeons that they think knives are communism, so they shouldn’t use them to operate. Why do we let parents walk into our classrooms and let them tell us that history is communism and shouldn’t be taught?

Preach.

[South Dakota Democrat]

Can someone explain why you'd name your account 2016 yet hate Donald Trump? Only reasons I could imagine naming yourself 2016 are loving Trump or it being your birth year.

Because 2016 was the 1st Time I discovered "Talk Elections" or formerly Atlas. I hate Trump.

Yes, I usually shouldn't say that BUT I wish absolutely destruction to Trump and his Family and if I could put him and his 74M People in prison myself I gladly would do it. I absolutely hate Trump and I hope he gets incapitated soon!

You're a bit nuts, aren't you?

[America Needs R'hllor]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

[Aurelius2]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

In the 1990s we didn't have biological males in women's sports, we didn't have tiktok teachers encouraging kindergarteners to identify as different genders, and literal porn like that "Gender Queer" book being made a mandatory part of the curriculum. These QIABCDEFGBBQ+ activists have lost their minds over the past 3 years or so, pushing for insane nonsense in an incredibly far-reaching way, and people like me who never asked for any of that crap are now going to bear the brunt of this new wave of anti-gay hatred.

I firmly reject this sort of forced teaming and I will never go along with it.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

This is false :

- Drag Queens yes did exist prior to recently but it was meant to only be for adults . They didn’t come to public libraries, public parks , Or schools prior to recently which is completely absurd

- It wasn’t viewed as perfectly normal for 6-7 year olds to socially transition, let alone without their parents knowing

- Sexuality stuff was not taught to elementary schools up until recently

- Biological males weren’t performing in women sports

I could go on and on but it’s completely disingenuous to say all this stuff happened anywhere near the extent to which it does today even 5 years ago .

[pbrower2a]

DeSantis should have ran this ad rather than the one he ran at the end of the pride month . It honestly shows how terrible of a job Pushpaw is doing even more .

Never too late to jump on the Trump Train!

I am not gonna vote for someone who I think has threatened our national security multiple times(Jan 6th, the Documents) and someone who I think should go to prison for that.

If Trump listened to Mike Pence after 2020 by dropping out after losing the election and blaming the media(both cable news and social) for his defeat rather than the stolen election bs, as well as returning the documents when asked, then I could see my self backing his 2024 bid. Those two things did not happen though , and I just cannot overlook them.

Excellent. You really are old-school, the sort who put national security above all else except perhaps for tax cuts for the rich, environmentalism, and suppression of the economic desires of organized labor. 

I often disagree with you, but not on national security. Trump threw away national security much delight as he has in crapping into his gilded toilet. I never saw national security as a partisan issue; I disputed only its exploitation as a partisan meme. 

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

This is false :

- Drag Queens yes did exist prior to recently but it was meant to only be for adults . They didn’t come to public libraries, public parks ,

I stopped right there.


Hope and Gleason Jest in Central Park (Sept. 18, 1974)

The sketches poke mild fun at New York. In one, Mr. Gleason and Mr. Hope play Central Park vice squad policemen in drag, and in another, Mr. Gleason, a soul‐saver complete with tambourine, tries to stop Mr. Hope from gambling at an OffTrack Betting office.

SO MANY DRAG QUEENS, SO FEW WITH TALENT, IN FUN, POIGNANT `WIGSTOCK’ (June 30, 1995)

Filmed at both the 1993 festival at Tompkins Square Park (where it all began) and at the bigger 1994 bash at the Bulkhead at the Christopher Street Pier, “Wigstock” kicks off by introducing the new starlet in the firmament, one Misstress Formika. “Age of Aquarius,” the “Hair” anthem, tellingly sets the stage for the parade of stars and no-talents that follow. And Formika, who first did impromptu drag under his name of Mike, talks to the camera in some of the film’s most insightful offstage moments. At one point, he is caught wearing only one eyelash.

And, of course, there's this famous photograph:

The picture above is real, and it does show British troops during World War II dressed in drag manning a naval gun during a German air raid. The only aspect of the photograph that isn't authentic is the color, which was added after the fact.

The picture was taken by photographer John Topham in 1940. The original version is in black and white. The caption on the original, which is owned by the company that Topham founded (TopFoto), reads, "Home defence troops are left in drag as their Christmas charity performance was interrupted by a coastal alert near Gravesend 1940."

[America Needs R'hllor]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

This is false :

- Drag Queens yes did exist prior to recently but it was meant to only be for adults . They didn’t come to public libraries, public parks , Or schools prior to recently which is completely absurd

- It wasn’t viewed as perfectly normal for 6-7 year olds to socially transition, let alone without their parents knowing

- Sexuality stuff was not taught to elementary schools up until recently

- Biological males weren’t performing in women sports

I could go on and on but it’s completely disingenuous to say all this stuff happened anywhere near the extent to which it does today even 5 years ago .

You weren't LGBT 5 years ago, so maybe don't tell me what was happening in our community 5 years ago. All of this was happening 5 years ago and 10 years ago. If you think drag was happening in dark clubs only and the debate on "trans people in sports" wasn't happening, you were simply not paying attention. Me, I was a big fan of Ukrainian drag artist Verka Serduchka back in the early 2000s. And I wish I was taught in elementary school that being gay is perfectly fine, maybe then I wouldn't hate myself while googling if I can live my life pretending to be straight and lying to my wife, so don't talk to me about teaching kids about sexuality. And I'm not asking you to pay attention - it's none of your damn business, but you're making it your business now by joining this shameful crusade against LGBT people.

Let me get this straight - did progressives start pushing for laws to force teachers to keep trans children's identity safe from their parents? No they didn't, it's the conservatives forcing this issue down our throats by trying to pass laws forcing teachers to tell parents about their kids' gender identity, context and safety be damned, pushing the government into the intricate relations between teachers, parents and kids which society handled perfectly fine so far. It's the conservatives making a whole thing out of laws targeting a tiny number of athletes.  It's the conservatives sending violent threats to events with drag queens and trying to ban them. So please, don't tell us we, the victims, are the ones to blame for this sh**t.

In the 1990s we didn't have biological males in women's sports, we didn't have tiktok teachers encouraging kindergarteners to identify as different genders, and literal porn like that "Gender Queer" book being made a mandatory part of the curriculum. These QIABCDEFGBBQ+ activists have lost their minds over the past 3 years or so, pushing for insane nonsense in an incredibly far-reaching way, and people like me who never asked for any of that crap are now going to bear the brunt of this new wave of anti-gay hatred.

I firmly reject this sort of forced teaming and I will never go along with it.

In the 1990s you'd get beat up in the street for holding hands with your boyfriend and society widely derided your existence. It's only thanks to these icky queer activists that we achieved any change. You can throw your fellow LGBTs under the bus and pander to the conservatives who will never accept you by helping spread their lies and mischaracterizations, that's fine, but most of us will never stop fighting until both homophobia and transphobia are socially ostracized and utterly destroyed.

[coloradocowboi]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

The problem is modern social progressivism in general is centered around equity and the belief that any social inequity in society must be squashed rather than the belief that individual rights should just be upheld. So advocating for Gay Marriage is very different then believing drag queens should be shown to young kids cause the former is a matter of individual rights while the latter is just imposing a super progressive view about society on everyone.

Advocating for it is also very different than the idea that 6-7 year olds should be able to socially transition without their parents knowing.

You sound exactly like the people in 2004 saying we should’ve shut up after Lawrence. The truth is that bigots feel emboldened by social media echo chambers. It’s why the DeSantorums’ side obsessions are: preventing black people from voting, preventing students from learning black or indigenous perspectives on this nations history, and destroying their state’s ag industry because their base hates Mexicans

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

This is false :

- Drag Queens yes did exist prior to recently but it was meant to only be for adults . They didn’t come to public libraries, public parks , Or schools prior to recently which is completely absurd

- It wasn’t viewed as perfectly normal for 6-7 year olds to socially transition, let alone without their parents knowing

- Sexuality stuff was not taught to elementary schools up until recently

- Biological males weren’t performing in women sports

I could go on and on but it’s completely disingenuous to say all this stuff happened anywhere near the extent to which it does today even 5 years ago .

You weren't LGBT 5 years ago, so maybe don't tell me what was happening in our community 5 years ago. All of this was happening 5 years ago and 10 years ago. If you think drag was happening in dark clubs only and the debate on "trans people in sports" wasn't happening, you were simply not paying attention. Me, I was a big fan of Ukrainian drag artist Verka Serduchka back in the early 2000s. And I wish I was taught in elementary school that being gay is perfectly fine, maybe then I wouldn't hate myself while googling if I can live my life pretending to be straight and lying to my wife, so don't talk to me about teaching kids about sexuality. And I'm not asking you to pay attention - it's none of your damn business, but you're making it your business now by joining this shameful crusade against LGBT people.

Let me get this straight - did progressives start pushing for laws to force teachers to keep trans children's identity safe from their parents? No they didn't, it's the conservatives forcing this issue down our throats by trying to pass laws forcing teachers to tell parents about their kids' gender identity, context and safety be damned, pushing the government into the intricate relations between teachers, parents and kids which society handled perfectly fine so far. It's the conservatives making a whole thing out of laws targeting a tiny number of athletes.  It's the conservatives sending violent threats to events with drag queens and trying to ban them. So please, don't tell us we, the victims, are the ones to blame for this sh**t.

In the 1990s we didn't have biological males in women's sports, we didn't have tiktok teachers encouraging kindergarteners to identify as different genders, and literal porn like that "Gender Queer" book being made a mandatory part of the curriculum. These QIABCDEFGBBQ+ activists have lost their minds over the past 3 years or so, pushing for insane nonsense in an incredibly far-reaching way, and people like me who never asked for any of that crap are now going to bear the brunt of this new wave of anti-gay hatred.

I firmly reject this sort of forced teaming and I will never go along with it.

In the 1990s you'd get beat up in the street for holding hands with your boyfriend and society widely derided your existence. It's only thanks to these icky queer activists that we achieved any change. You can throw your fellow LGBTs under the bus and pander to the conservatives who will never accept you by helping spread their lies and mischaracterizations, that's fine, but most of us will never stop fighting until both homophobia and transphobia are socially ostracized and utterly destroyed.

1. No , drag queens aren’t something that only involves LGBT people once they start showing up at public schools, and public libraries .

2. Yes, many teachers are prohibited from telling the parents of kids who identify as a different gender that they do . They are prohibited from doing so because some unelected bureaucrat put that rule so yes progressives did do what you are saying . Also public schools are part of the government so anything that goes on in public schools is the government getting involved by definition.

3. Many leftists have broken with activists over this and instead of trying to understand why they did so , so it’s not only the right who are starting to oppose progressives on this type of stuff .

4. Aurelius Is not a transphobe and saying so is actually absurd . This is fundamentally the left’s problem and that is they call everyone who doesn’t agree with whatever the progressive position on society is a racist , sexist , homophobe , transphobe etc . You wonder why there has been a backlash in opinion polls , this is why

[America Needs R'hllor]

Why has the GOP been consumed by this violent homophobia? Even in 2004 when Bush canonically won based on turnout from anti-gay marriage referendums, they weren’t this insane about it. It looked like, pre-Biden, they were even moderating on this issue, with Trump being fairly pro-LGBT rights (at least rhetorically). But now this is 90% of what they talk about.

A huge reason there has been a backlash is how much progressives have pushed on those issues. If they stuck to where they were on the issue in the mid 2010s, it would not have created such a backlash.

No, it's not. You all can't escape responsibility for that by blaming vague progressives.

Just as an example, drag has been a big part of LGBT culture for decades. Now conservatives are attempting to ban them, suddenly. Trans people? Dana International won the Eurovision in the 1990s. The only thing that really changed is more exploration beyond the gender binary. Conservatives don't get to blame progressives for a huge chunk of their compatriots turning batsh**t insane with hatred for LGBT people.

This is false :

- Drag Queens yes did exist prior to recently but it was meant to only be for adults . They didn’t come to public libraries, public parks , Or schools prior to recently which is completely absurd

- It wasn’t viewed as perfectly normal for 6-7 year olds to socially transition, let alone without their parents knowing

- Sexuality stuff was not taught to elementary schools up until recently

- Biological males weren’t performing in women sports

I could go on and on but it’s completely disingenuous to say all this stuff happened anywhere near the extent to which it does today even 5 years ago .

You weren't LGBT 5 years ago, so maybe don't tell me what was happening in our community 5 years ago. All of this was happening 5 years ago and 10 years ago. If you think drag was happening in dark clubs only and the debate on "trans people in sports" wasn't happening, you were simply not paying attention. Me, I was a big fan of Ukrainian drag artist Verka Serduchka back in the early 2000s. And I wish I was taught in elementary school that being gay is perfectly fine, maybe then I wouldn't hate myself while googling if I can live my life pretending to be straight and lying to my wife, so don't talk to me about teaching kids about sexuality. And I'm not asking you to pay attention - it's none of your damn business, but you're making it your business now by joining this shameful crusade against LGBT people.

Let me get this straight - did progressives start pushing for laws to force teachers to keep trans children's identity safe from their parents? No they didn't, it's the conservatives forcing this issue down our throats by trying to pass laws forcing teachers to tell parents about their kids' gender identity, context and safety be damned, pushing the government into the intricate relations between teachers, parents and kids which society handled perfectly fine so far. It's the conservatives making a whole thing out of laws targeting a tiny number of athletes.  It's the conservatives sending violent threats to events with drag queens and trying to ban them. So please, don't tell us we, the victims, are the ones to blame for this sh**t.

In the 1990s we didn't have biological males in women's sports, we didn't have tiktok teachers encouraging kindergarteners to identify as different genders, and literal porn like that "Gender Queer" book being made a mandatory part of the curriculum. These QIABCDEFGBBQ+ activists have lost their minds over the past 3 years or so, pushing for insane nonsense in an incredibly far-reaching way, and people like me who never asked for any of that crap are now going to bear the brunt of this new wave of anti-gay hatred.

I firmly reject this sort of forced teaming and I will never go along with it.

In the 1990s you'd get beat up in the street for holding hands with your boyfriend and society widely derided your existence. It's only thanks to these icky queer activists that we achieved any change. You can throw your fellow LGBTs under the bus and pander to the conservatives who will never accept you by helping spread their lies and mischaracterizations, that's fine, but most of us will never stop fighting until both homophobia and transphobia are socially ostracized and utterly destroyed.

1. No , drag queens aren’t something that only involves LGBT people once they start showing up at public schools, and public libraries .

2. Yes, many teachers are prohibited from telling the parents of kids who identify as a different gender that they do . They are prohibited from doing so because some unelected bureaucrat put that rule so yes progressives did do what you are saying . Also public schools are part of the government so anything that goes on in public schools is the government getting involved by definition.

3. Many leftists have broken with activists over this and instead of trying to understand why they did so , so it’s not only the right who are starting to oppose progressives on this type of stuff .

4. Aurelius Is not a transphobe and saying so is actually absurd . This is fundamentally the left’s problem and that is they call everyone who doesn’t agree with whatever the progressive position on society is a racist , sexist , homophobe , transphobe etc . You wonder why there has been a backlash in opinion polls , this is why

I'm not saying Aurelius is a transphobe - I'm saying he, and you, are joining the chorus of spewing lies and exaggerations spread by actual transphobes and homophobes who are trying to use extremely minor issues like "trans in sports" as a cudgel to hit LGBT people as a whole. Who gives a sh**t about drag queens? Why do you care, as long as they're not sexualized (which should be the same for ANY entertainment, or do you think drag queens are uniquely bad)? Why are you joining this homophobic crusade to attack and persecute gay culture? And this whole teacher business I don't want to hear about, if you want to make this a whole issue to justify a surge in homohpboia provide some data to support your claims.

Fundamentally, blaming progressive activists for this bloody campaign is disgraceful. They're the only ones that stood for us and the only reason I can live my life with my boyfriend and am not miserable right now. I will not stand for this. The only people to blame for homophobia and transphobia are homophobes and transphobes.