Actor James Van Der Beek wants to know why the DNC won't host any debates against Biden
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« on: June 01, 2023, 11:24:32 AM »
« edited: June 01, 2023, 11:36:45 AM by ηєω ƒяσηтιєя »



Link to the unhinged video: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs4HFMDOjB-/

For those who don't know James, his most notable role was playing Dawson Leery from the late '90s/early '00s show "Dawson's Creek".
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 11:31:35 AM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 11:33:34 AM »

Incumbent presidents usually don't debate primary opponents, I believe only Ford did that with Gov. Reagan in 1976.

Those that do legitimize their opposition in the party and they usually lose reelection (Carter, Bush 41)

If Trump didn't do it, why would Biden?

Van Der Beek should act in roles..

He probably is a Bernie Bro or something
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 11:38:24 AM »


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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2023, 11:40:48 AM »

Once you've lost Beek the Freak, you've lost America.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2023, 11:51:32 AM »

I loved the Beek on Don't Trust the B— in Apartment 23.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2023, 02:17:12 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate
Biden would do really bad in a debate against RFK. Debating only gives him more legitimacy its better to skip all of them and try to keep the opposition in the dark in terms of name rec.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2023, 02:19:10 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate

LOL, no. Incumbent presidents don't do primary debates especially against nutjobs like RFK junior.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2023, 02:47:44 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate

LOL, no. Incumbent presidents don't do primary debates especially against nutjobs like RFK junior.

Because incumbents don’t usually get opposition in the 15% range in the first place

Don’t do the debate, and you risk pissing off people and creating an image that the President needs protecting. Then the 15% can become 25% or worse
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2023, 02:49:03 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate

I thought you didn't care about the opinions of celebrities?
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2023, 04:06:20 PM »

If the polling keeps up, Biden should debate RFK Jr. and Williamson.

Regardless of whether or not people take those candidates seriously is beyond the point - if they're consistently polling 20% of the primary, than Biden should take that seriously and debate.

If he doesn't, then RFK Jr. and Williamson should debate and call him out for not showing up.

I doubt there's much of a chance that Biden won't be the nominee, but if there's serious opposition, regardless of how he feels about them, he should certainly debate.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2023, 05:40:23 PM »

Didn’t Kesha diss him in a song?
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2023, 06:20:54 PM »

Dawson was never the brightest tool in the shed, although if there was a real primary he wouldn't be totally wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2023, 06:47:09 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate

LOL, no. Incumbent presidents don't do primary debates especially against nutjobs like RFK junior.

Because incumbents don’t usually get opposition in the 15% range in the first place

Don’t do the debate, and you risk pissing off people and creating an image that the President needs protecting. Then the 15% can become 25% or worse

No, this is a terrible idea.

Biden has absolutely nothing to gain by debating. Nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2023, 06:48:06 PM »

If RFK holds his 15-20% figure, Biden will have to debate

LOL, no. Incumbent presidents don't do primary debates especially against nutjobs like RFK junior.

Because incumbents don’t usually get opposition in the 15% range in the first place

Don’t do the debate, and you risk pissing off people and creating an image that the President needs protecting. Then the 15% can become 25% or worse

No, this is a terrible idea.

Biden has absolutely nothing to gain by debating. Nothing.
I see no scenario in which he is better off debating. None.
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2023, 02:04:09 AM »

Biden is not going to debate random unserious primary challengers.

15-20% support is not a serious threat to an incumbent president.  Most of them are protest votes by salty Bernie Bros who want a progressive to replace Biden and want to send an anti-Biden message.

RFK Jr. is only getting attention in polls because people don't know who he is and are mixing him up with his father or Joe Kennedy III (who has been in the news for his own primary challenge and giving the SOTU response).

Unserious challengers to an incumbent president are not owed your attention or respect.  The attention the media and celebrities are giving them is just the latest round of "PLEASE I'm so BORED give me ANYTHING but BIDEN" that's been going on in the chattering class for five years and counting.  The people pretending Biden needs to debate RFK Jr. are the same who pretended he needed to kill his dog and disown his son, the same who insisted he was going to drop out midway through his term to clear the way for Harris, the same who tried to get him to resign over having classified documents in his garage, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2023, 02:24:36 AM »
« Edited: June 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AM by ibagli »

The DNC should never host debates. Neither should the RNC. It was a mistake for the parties' national committees to get involved in the debate business at all. All it did was create single targets for whining about debate schedules and rules.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2023, 02:33:40 AM »

As a matter of trivia, there is a strong chance that there will be an eight-year gap (2020-2028) between there being any presidential primary debates just as next year will mark an eight year gap between there being any proper presidential party conventions.
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2023, 06:20:09 AM »

No incumbent President has ever debated a primary challenger, right?
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2023, 08:55:38 AM »

An anti-vaxxer and a woman who can see the future in the stars.

Yep, Biden has some real opposition.
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2023, 09:46:28 AM »

An anti-vaxxer and a woman who can see the future in the stars.

Yep, Biden has some real opposition.
Apparently, Van Der Beek and his wife are "anti-vaxxers" so it seems like they might be RFK Jr. supporters (just my speculation). Thus, the reasoning behind his rant.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2023, 02:55:47 PM »

The DNC should say they'll do debates but set a pretty high threshold for candidates. At least 10% in polling, 100,000 unique donors and an ironclad commitment to support the eventual nominee. Highly doubt RFK or anyone besides Biden has the ability to get anywhere near 100k donors.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2023, 08:27:13 PM »

Man he looks old compared to DC days lol.

I don't agree with some of his assessments of Biden, but he's right that there should be debates.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2023, 10:37:04 PM »
« Edited: June 02, 2023, 10:46:52 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Due to RFK ties to Mafia it's no accident he praised Tucker Carlson and Sgt Shriver campaign hard for Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver and Eunis Shriver married Sgt Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger because they had ties to Marilyn Monroe and Mafia

Frank Sinatra was a Jew FDR Reagan D and became a Nixon Reagan R around the time Sgt Shriver ran with McGcern it's not far fetched that Kennedys had ties to Frank Sinatra

That's why on I love Lucy the only r was William Frawley but Lucille Ball, Ricky Ricardo and Vivian Vance were Ds but they had ties to Bing Crosby, Orson Wells, Frank Sinatra and George Orwell it all makes sense

It's no accident that RFK praised Tucker Carlson they have Conserv political thoughts too they are Hollywood because if Frank Sinatra

Unlike blks whom are solid Ds behind Oprah but Cosby is the one exception he is a Republican

Biden has ties to Kennedys but not Frank Sinatra, remember FDR was more Conserv but he was still a Swcularist that's why they still had the draft in WWII they still had Chain Gangs until 1963 Dixiecrats judges sentenced blk men to Chain gangs

Why would RFK praised Tucker Carlson whom is a Russian Collusion and his dad got assassinated by Surhan an Arab and Mafia had something to do with paying off all Assassinators in the sixties

Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray and Sirhan were all paid off just like Judas when he helped killed Jesus by Mafia  and KKK

There were no major assassinations besides those 4 Civil Rights leaders because that was the peak of MAFIA
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2023, 10:52:11 PM »

The DNC should say they'll do debates but set a pretty high threshold for candidates. At least 10% in polling, 100,000 unique donors and an ironclad commitment to support the eventual nominee. Highly doubt RFK or anyone besides Biden has the ability to get anywhere near 100k donors.

This sounds like a good way to get numbskulls to go "I like Biden but I think he should debate so I'm telling pollsters I support RFK Jr."
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