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« on: May 29, 2023, 10:41:09 PM »

Of course, I understand the religious conflict between Sunni and Shia Islamists, but in the war against Iran, which is a veiled protectorate of the PRC, the Taliban have absolutely no chance, and this is a very weird move on the part of the Taliban.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2023, 01:12:20 AM »

Of course, I understand the religious conflict between Sunni and Shia Islamists, but in the war against Iran, which is a veiled protectorate of the PRC, the Taliban have absolutely no chance, and this is a very weird move on the part of the Taliban.
Out of all the incorrect notions you have made, calling Iran a protectorate of China is the most egregious example. Iran has the consideration as an informal Israel to China what with having extensive business ties and implicit lobbying to get China to bend to its wants. China was hesitant to even bring along Iran to the SCO until Biden screwed the pooch with maximum pressure and AUKUS. Iran isn’t even like Pakistan where it has no option of choosing another partner or tacking it alone, it can do so and Iranian foreign policy is still looking to Europe at least to balance the powers off another. To my common knowledge, Afghanistan is more reliant on China for foreign trade considering the contract deals for mining still stand

Also this clash was about dams and water use, not religion. The liberal strain of basing worldviews around conflict of ideas holds no truth to reality.
Are you from the Looking Glass? Because secular Islamists and EU Iran are in that world, not ours.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2023, 09:35:43 AM »

Iran would smoke the Taliban in such a war and Russia, China, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the PMF would all intervene on behalf of Iran. Also, such a war would ensure the survival of the current Iranian government (which is still on relatively shaky grounds in terms of popular support, but not in any stage close to a Revolution until at least the day Ayatollah Khamenei passes) for another generation or two, as a war with Sunni extremists like the Taliban will rally even the most anti-regime Iranians to the side of the Iranian government.

I am pretty sure that the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Arab Gulf States would give support to the Taliban in this war as a way to weaken Iran as a state and push for Reza Pahlavi or the MEK to come to power in a fully cucked Iran.
Russia has established contacts with the Taliban no less than with Iran. Russian Muslims are all Sunnis, so in a war between Shiites and Sunnis, Russia is more likely to take the side of the Sunnis. But Iran is too valuable for the Kremlin.

Afghans have, in addition to the dispute over the river, much more serious disputes over the Durand Line and the Tajik minority. So it is unlikely that the Taliban will rush to Iran before they deal with these. As a last resort, if things go in a direction unfavorable for the Kremlin, the Kremlin can redirect the Taliban aggression to Tajikistan, which is less valuable to him than Iran, and this will allow it to get a good pretext for strengthening Russian military presence in Central Asia.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2023, 10:00:10 AM »

When the West armed Afghans last time, it ended by 9/11.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2023, 12:06:11 AM »

Furthermore, the PRC and the Taliban are if anything more favorable to each other than the PRC and the Islamic Republic of Iran are to each other
In general, I agree with your posts, but it is difficult to imagine a stronger relationship than the one that has been established between the PRC and Iran since the eighties. Iranian aviation, Iranian missiles and Iranian nuclear power were generated by the PRC. There is a 25-year Cooperation Program between Iran and China. Iran is a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Iran and the PRC are holding joint war games. The PRC is helping Iran covertly circumvent sanctions. Iran does not recognize the Republic of China. Iran supports the persecution of Sunnis in the PRC. Iran and the PRC are going to jointly restore the Great Silk Road. And so on. It is hard to imagine better relations between countries.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 02:23:22 AM »

A Pyrrhic victory in hindsight

Furthermore, the PRC and the Taliban are if anything more favorable to each other than the PRC and the Islamic Republic of Iran are to each other
In general, I agree with your posts, but it is difficult to imagine a stronger relationship than the one that has been established between the PRC and Iran since the eighties. Iranian aviation, Iranian missiles and Iranian nuclear power were generated by the PRC. There is a 25-year Cooperation Program between Iran and China. Iran is a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Iran and the PRC are holding joint war games. The PRC is helping Iran covertly circumvent sanctions. Iran does not recognize the Republic of China. Iran supports the persecution of Sunnis in the PRC. Iran and the PRC are going to jointly restore the Great Silk Road. And so on. It is hard to imagine better relations between countries.
Iranian aviation is mostly still using old American models running on duct tape and Iran’s nuclear program was shaped more by Russia and Pakistan, with learned knowledge applied by American uni grads, than China’s model.

The rest of this is lolworthy and shows your lack of knowledge of the Islamic republic outside of liberal periodicals, but the commercial nature of this relationship isn’t hidden lmao.
I am not surprised that yet another illiberal anti-American pseudo-communist from the PRC is trying to confuse the hated "liberals" (that is, any non-extremists, regardless of their real attitude towards liberalism) about the actions of the PRC and, absolutely unsubstantiated, is shifting arrows to the USA. Even if his opponent has absolutely nothing to do with the USA and, in general, has lived all his life on the opposite point of the world from the USA.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 05:53:36 AM »

Wow, already you’re fuming about being wrong. Normally libs just put me on ignore since they normally fail timelessly against someone who knows more than they do.

My family is from Iran and were taught their trades either in US universities or by American contractors in Iran. I do know more about my ancestral land than you do, as I know more reality objectively than the essential totality of this site. I clearly know more about communism and the USSR and PRC lines throughout time than you do. Pipe down
Lol, I could believe that your words are not a blatant manipulative lie if I saw confirmation of this even in the form of a location in your profile in Iran or an American university. But you listed your location as some place in South Central China and didn't provide a single bit of information that backed up your claims above.

Why don't you claim that you are an alien from Mars who studied at the University of Venus, and therefore only you can talk about matters in the Solar System?
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2023, 09:35:35 PM »

Excuse me, but I am completing my migratory pattern back to Monte Carlo
Very funny. In that case, you can visit me at my mansion in Lindalino, it will be close to you.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2023, 02:35:12 AM »

You will learn to love me in time

I think I already have (even from your posts that I had encountered before this thread), even if I also hate you at the same time.
As the Russian saying goes, from love to hate one step.
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