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Question: Which campaign was worse?
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McCain/Palin 2008
 
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Romney/Ryan 2012
 
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Clinton/Kaine 2016
 
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Trump/Pence 2020
 
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« on: May 25, 2023, 09:22:32 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2023, 09:55:40 PM »

McCain/Palin: A completely hapless sitch from the start thanks to Iraq. That's an election that probably would've looked like 2012 or 2020 in margin if The Recession hadn't happened.  However, not losing "Never wrong Missouri" should've been worth something.

Romney/Ryan: A bit of a sacrificial lamb campaign, but even so, they still did the unthinkable and gained popular margin....not lost. Gained.  Politically, they may be my least favorite...but they are pretty much the king


Clinton/Kaine: This one would be the pits if not for the last one.  Losing to a dumpster fire campaign is  just sad. But there were some headwinds to rough at least [Brexit; Russia; SCOTUS; Comey], and ultimately they still won by 2 million as opposed to a complete loss.  Still, this should've been a 2008/1988 sort of routing, not a loss with a serious EC-disparity.

Trump/Pence:  Losing by margins similar to Romney/Ryan as an incumbent, in tailor-made conditions, to a dumpster campaign [not even enough energy for fire.] has to be it. I guess you could point to slightly gaining in percentage, big raw vote add, and absurdly good EC stacking...but the conditions were also absurdly favorable to begin with...but he blew it by acting just like Hillary AND the botched COVID response.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2023, 04:25:05 AM »

Write in: Biden/Harris 2020, as although they won, they underperformed what the margin should have been by a truly seismic amount.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2023, 10:54:49 AM »

Clinton/Kaine has to take the cake here. Smug complacency lost to dumpster fire incompetence. This should be a lesson to us all.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2023, 08:39:56 PM »

Clinton/Kaine for losing to a campaign that actually seemed to be TRYING to lose. That's some kind of incompetence there.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2023, 12:31:31 PM »

Clinton/Kaine for the reasons others have said, Romney/Ryan is a close 2nd for underperforming expectations and fundamentals.  McCain/Palin was bad, but mostly due to Palin. Her aside, it wasn't awful. Trump/Pence 2020 was a mess, but you can't call it the worst when the overperformed expectations in the end
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 02:39:06 PM »

Clinton/Kaine

"Pokemon GO to the polls" will haunt my memory forever.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2023, 02:58:51 PM »

Clinton/Kaine.  There was no excuse for their defeat.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2023, 04:04:13 PM »

Clinton/Kaine was the only actual bad campaign of these four. Given the economic picture and unpopularity of the incumbents, McCain/Palin and Trump/Pence ‘20 were both remarkably strong efforts. Romney/Ryan did about how you would expect given the slow but real recovery and Obama’s popularity.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2023, 10:13:16 PM »

Trump. Everything he does is always the worst .
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2023, 11:15:54 PM »

Honestly, I'm inclined to write-in the Hillary Clinton 2008 campaign, for failing to recognize by around the Iowa Caucuses that Obama was the inevitable nominee.

In hindsight, if she'd deferred to Obama and chosen not to run in the first place, she might well have been the nominee, if not the winner, in 2016.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2023, 12:43:00 AM »

Romney clearly underperformed relative to the circumstances. I would argue that Hillary probably overperformed given the intense ISIS-fueled nativist environment of 2016.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2023, 04:43:42 PM »

Hillary's campaign was my choice. Her campaign seemed to be a good parallel to 1948 Tom Dewey in essentially playing "prevent" (there was some talk that she was ignoring Bill's advice on campaigning in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin late in the campaign...and wouldn't you know it those were the states that arguably put Donald Trump over the top in 2016).
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2023, 05:55:58 AM »

Honestly, I'm inclined to write-in the Hillary Clinton 2008 campaign, for failing to recognize by around the Iowa Caucuses that Obama was the inevitable nominee.

In hindsight, if she'd deferred to Obama and chosen not to run in the first place, she might well have been the nominee, if not the winner, in 2016.
McCain wasn't a bad candidate but he picked a terrible running mate.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2023, 08:56:05 PM »

2008 because McCain was an awful candidate .....he ran like he didn't want to win.  Palin was actually pretty good, she helped with women voters, tea party and other conservatives that didn't trust the loser McCain (with cause). 
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