Who does better In Pennsylvania?

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

I feel comfortable saying Trump. Both will face major problems in the larger metro areas, but Trump probably does better in the Scranton area, Erie, and the Lehigh Valley. Only area DeSantis might do better is Lancaster County.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Rs aren't winning PA they lost already in PA in a special Eday what's so hard about that Bob Casey Jr is untouched and won by 18 pts in 2018

[Real Texan Politics]

Trump, he resonates better with WWC and exurban people. At this point both would still do poorly however. DeSantis would not reclaim suburban voters.

You said it best.

[DaleCooper]

I don't think there are any states DeSantis would do better in.

[MT Treasurer]

I don't think there are any states DeSantis would do better in.

Yeah, nobody can match Trump's unique appeal in Utah

[DaleCooper]

I don't think there are any states DeSantis would do better in.

Yeah, nobody can match Trump's unique appeal in Utah

That would be the only one, but everywhere else I don't think DeSantis has any appeal. He's useless, and you have to understand that if DeSantis is the Republican nominee then we'd also have to deal with his terrible campaign and staff, which will make him underperform even more.

[For Trump, everything. For immigrants, the law]

The candidate I like more, of course.

[NOTaDemocratBUTaLeftist]

Trump, but neither come close to winning it. It will be close to a 10-point Biden win 18 months from now.

Sticking by this?

I think that's foolish. I fully expect Biden to win PA in '24, but I suspect his margin will be even tighter than it was last time, regardless of the Republican nominee. Obama received far fewer votes in 2012 than he did in 2008, and Trump received MORE votes in '20 than '16, but so did the Democratic candidate (Biden20 v. Clinton16), so he LOST whereas he won the previous time.

[Sumner 1868]

I don't think there are any states DeSantis would do better in.

Yeah, nobody can match Trump's unique appeal in Utah

That would be the only one

I disagree. If Trump's narcissistic personality is too much for mild-mannered Mormons, then why would DeSantis psychopathy do better?

[TodayJunior]

Trump, but neither come close to winning it. It will be close to a 10-point Biden win 18 months from now.

Sticking by this?

Yep! Everyone is underestimating how toxic trump is going to be to a broader general electorate. Close to 10 implies anywhere in the neighborhood of 7-9%, low or high end of that. PA is strong lean D.

[Tekken_Guy]

Trump, but neither come close to winning it. It will be close to a 10-point Biden win 18 months from now.

Sticking by this?

Yep! Everyone is underestimating how toxic trump is going to be to a broader general electorate. Close to 10 implies anywhere in the neighborhood of 7-9%, low or high end of that. PA is strong lean D.

I think Biden wins by a little less than Fetterman. He underperforms Fetterman in the WWC area but does better in suburban areas.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Trump, but neither come close to winning it. It will be close to a 10-point Biden win 18 months from now.

Sticking by this?

Yep! Everyone is underestimating how toxic trump is going to be to a broader general electorate. Close to 10 implies anywhere in the neighborhood of 7-9%, low or high end of that. PA is strong lean D.

I think Biden wins by a little less than Fetterman. He underperforms Fetterman in the WWC area but does better in suburban areas.

He doesn't underperforming Fetterman when Bob Casey Jr is on the ballot

[CookieDamage]

DeSantis would not do better in any group than Trump. Suburban Dem trending people are certainly not going to ditch the Dems for him of all people. He's becoming as right-wing as Trump, if not more so. Chester and Bucks voters are not into this culture war garbage. Rural, working class, and exurban Berks county type people are mostly going for Trump.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Trump, and I would say the same for any state which is part of the Rust Belt. The difference in these states' presidential margins between 2008 and 2016 is astonishing, pretty much across the board - Michigan went from a 16.5% Obama victory to a .25% Trump victory. A narrow R win, but a striking difference no less.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Trump, and I would say the same for any state which is part of the Rust Belt. The difference in these states' presidential margins between 2008 and 2016 is astonishing, pretty much across the board - Michigan went from a 16.5% Obama victory to a .25% Trump victory. A narrow R win, but a striking difference no less.

Lol ,  NO WAY JOSE it's an obsession with Rs thinks they are gonna win PA no they arent you lost the special election in May of 23 and Bob Casey Jr is on the ballot and won by 18 pts just because you said it doesn't mean it's True