Was 1992 a landslide?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 18, 2024, 06:50:24 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  U.S. Presidential Election Results (Moderator: Dereich)
  Was 1992 a landslide?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]
Poll
Question: Was 1992 a landslide?
#1
yes
 
#2
no
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 60

Author Topic: Was 1992 a landslide?  (Read 6162 times)
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2007, 08:54:03 AM »


Yes a lot of Perot`s Votes would have gone to Bush. Had 2/3 of Perot`s voters gone to Bush and 1/3 gone to Clinton. This is what each state`s results would have looked like:

Verdict: Bush wins a narrow victory over Clinton.
Alas, your premise isn't supported by the polls, which said that Bush would have profitted only marginally from Perot's absence (in marked contrast with 96 - Perot's 96 votership was a good bit to the right of his 92 one. But even for 96 your formula is probably too generous for the Republicans, simply because quite a few of Perot's voters would have stayed at home).

Of course, it would also differ from state to state.

And there's the difference between these two questions:
What would have happened if Perot had been magically removed from the ballot? That's all that the polls can answer.
What would have happened if the whole Perot campaign had never happened - if there had never even been any noises about him running, if he had never existed? That's impossible to answer exactly, although the answer would probably be somewhat more favorable to the Republicans than the answer to the first question.
Logged
Small Business Owner of Any Repute
Mr. Moderate
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,431
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2007, 10:16:32 AM »

What would have happened if Perot had been magically removed from the ballot? That's all that the polls can answer.

The polls can't even reliably answer that.  You cannot trust a Perot voter to admit whether or not they would have voted at all without Perot on the ballot.
Logged
Alcon
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 30,866
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2007, 11:25:07 AM »

It's not exactly reasonable to redistribute Perot's votes in the same way in the District of Columbia as Utah.

I also suspect that people tend to overstate their propensity to not vote if their independent candidate of choice were to not be on the ballot.
Logged
minionofmidas
Lewis Trondheim
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,206
India


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2007, 11:08:57 AM »

It's not exactly reasonable to redistribute Perot's votes in the same way in the District of Columbia as Utah.

I also suspect that people tend to overstate their propensity to not vote if their independent candidate of choice were to not be on the ballot.
What would have happened if Perot had been magically removed from the ballot? That's all that the polls can answer.

The polls can't even reliably answer that.  You cannot trust a Perot voter to admit whether or not they would have voted at all without Perot on the ballot.
True of course, so it should be "the most the polls can answer". Still, it's unreasonable to assume that those who said they wouldn't have voted at all would all have actually broken for Bush. Grin
Logged
Beet
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,872


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2007, 10:18:59 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2007, 10:20:52 PM by thefactor »

The following elections were landslides:

1904, 1920, 1924, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1956, 1964, 1972, and 1984.

The following elections seem as if they were landslides because that is how they are usually narrated but were not:
1900, 1908, 1940, 1944, 1952, 1980, 1988, 1996.
Logged
gorkay
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 995


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2007, 04:48:10 PM »

I'd say no. It was close to being one in terms of electoral vote, but not popular vote. And even in EV it fell fall short of the totals the winning candidate racked up in some of the other 20th-century landslides. But it was a decisive win.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.025 seconds with 14 queries.