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« on: March 30, 2023, 11:59:24 AM »
« edited: March 30, 2023, 12:10:54 PM by AZDem »

What a pro-life and not at all surprising ruling:


These judges are hell bent on making America a Christo-Fascist Nation and they don't care how many people they kill dong it do they?

I guess Texas is where laws go to die if they don't conform to someone's narrow right-wing dogma.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2023, 12:19:56 PM »

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2023, 12:24:15 PM »

This particular judge has made a number of anti-Obamacare rulings and always gets overturned by the appellate courts.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2023, 12:37:24 PM »

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?



One could only hope but logical consistency is not a quality often valued in right-wing judicial rulings. It's all about satisfying the religious zealotry and power, nothing more.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2023, 12:43:50 PM »

This particular judge has made a number of anti-Obamacare rulings and always gets overturned by the appellate courts.

Yeah, he's a meme "judge" that Republicans always use when they want some hack to make a sweeping political decision like this.
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2023, 12:47:40 PM »
« Edited: March 30, 2023, 12:52:31 PM by North Carolina Conservative »

Good of you to specify the judge was right wing, I might have thought he was left wing otherwise.

Would you mind elaborating on what specific tenets of Christo-fascism have lead this judge to strike down the ACA's preventative care requirement? What's the ideological relationship between these two things?

Why should whether or not this law is pro life matter? Does the constitution say that laws that are pro life (assuming the PC requirement is) are automatically constitutional?
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2023, 01:02:06 PM »

Good of you to specify the judge was right wing, I might have thought he was left wing otherwise.

Would you mind elaborating on what specific tenets of Christo-fascism have lead this judge to strike down the ACA's preventative care requirement? What's the ideological relationship between these two things?

Why should whether or not this law is pro life matter? Does the constitution say that laws that are pro life (assuming the PC requirement is) are automatically constitutional?

Watch out or you might fall from that pedestal and hurt yourself.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2023, 01:25:20 PM »

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?



No, it doesn't have anything to do with that.

The basis for this decision is that the Court found that the Preventative Services Task Force, which the ACA gave the authority to determine which care should be considered "preventative" and thus required to be covered cost free, is an extra-constitutional body and so the government does not have the authority to enforce its decisions.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2023, 01:56:53 PM »

"Democrats are weaponizing the judicial branch and want to legislate from the bench through activist judges".
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2023, 02:09:28 PM »

It's always a Texas judge.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2023, 06:43:59 PM »
« Edited: March 30, 2023, 08:38:18 PM by Skill and Chance »

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?



No, it doesn't have anything to do with that.

The basis for this decision is that the Court found that the Preventative Services Task Force, which the ACA gave the authority to determine which care should be considered "preventative" and thus required to be covered cost free, is an extra-constitutional body and so the government does not have the authority to enforce its decisions.

How is this possibly compatible with Seila Law and Collins v. Yellen?  SCOTUS (with all the current justices on it in the latter case, and it wasn't close) has consistently favored the narrow remedy of making the unconstitutionally appointed/designated officials accountable to the president/cabinet secretary.  So the HHS secretary would get to review and approve or reject the board's future recommendations, rather than pretending the board never existed.   I would think that's almost surely how this ends?

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2023, 08:31:36 PM »

Good of you to specify the judge was right wing, I might have thought he was left wing otherwise.

Would you mind elaborating on what specific tenets of Christo-fascism have lead this judge to strike down the ACA's preventative care requirement? What's the ideological relationship between these two things?

Why should whether or not this law is pro life matter? Does the constitution say that laws that are pro life (assuming the PC requirement is) are automatically constitutional?

It doesn't, but I'm going to have to say the hypocrisy argument rings true here.  If we're going to be seriously pro-life, we should be lobbying to wipe out all out of pocket costs associated with pregnancy, not to reverse the few protections that already exist.  This is an awful look.  If abortion is going to be banned, birth and treatment of any associated illnesses should be free.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2023, 08:37:02 PM »


It's actually always this particular Texas judge.

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?



No, it doesn't have anything to do with that.

The basis for this decision is that the Court found that the Preventative Services Task Force, which the ACA gave the authority to determine which care should be considered "preventative" and thus required to be covered cost free, is an extra-constitutional body and so the government does not have the authority to enforce its decisions.

How is this possibly compatible with Seila Law and Collins v. Yellen?  SCOTUS (with all the current justices on it in the latter case, and it wasn't close) has consistently favored the narrow remedy of making the unconstitutionally appointed/designated official's accountable to the president/cabinet secretary.  So the HHS secretary would get to review and approve or reject the board's future recommendations, rather than pretending the board never existed.   I would think that's almost surely how this ends?

I think this is correct.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2023, 08:51:51 PM »


It's actually always this particular Texas judge.

There's also Andrew Hanen and that guy they drew on the student loans thing, although my understanding is that in the latter case they were trying to draw O'Connor and got the next-best thing instead.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2023, 08:52:21 PM »


It's actually always this particular Texas judge.

Wait; wouldn't this also call into question the bans on abortion as well ?

As it happened in Wyoming for example ?



No, it doesn't have anything to do with that.

The basis for this decision is that the Court found that the Preventative Services Task Force, which the ACA gave the authority to determine which care should be considered "preventative" and thus required to be covered cost free, is an extra-constitutional body and so the government does not have the authority to enforce its decisions.

How is this possibly compatible with Seila Law and Collins v. Yellen?  SCOTUS (with all the current justices on it in the latter case, and it wasn't close) has consistently favored the narrow remedy of making the unconstitutionally appointed/designated official's accountable to the president/cabinet secretary.  So the HHS secretary would get to review and approve or reject the board's future recommendations, rather than pretending the board never existed.   I would think that's almost surely how this ends?

I think this is correct.

That would still introduce a political element to the decisions, but hopefully only around the edges (I would hope cancer screenings of all things remain nonpartisan).  Would the next Republican appointed HHS Secretary continue to require no-cost coverage for PrEP and Plan B?  Alternatively, would Biden's HHS put screenings for gender dysphoria on the list?  I could see certain screenings/treatments for substance abuse becoming a flashpoint as well, but IDK which way?
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2023, 11:03:07 PM »

I feel like this won't stand. But who knows.
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