Republicans will always be Patriots, change my mind

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Bush is the last president whose speeches made you feel patriotic as well.

This is just your opinion.

If I want to hear a patriotic speech from a President, I will go to Obama, Biden and heck even Bill Clinton. Or go historical (FDR, Truman, JFK, etc). Not from any garbage spoken from Dubya.

I rarely watch speeches from Bush but when I do it's for comedy mostly (example: "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.")

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Bush is the last president whose speeches made you feel patriotic as well.

This is just your opinion.

If I want to hear a patriotic speech from a President, I will go to Obama, Biden and heck even Bill Clinton. Or go historical (FDR, Truman, JFK, etc). Not from any garbage spoken from Dubya.

I rarely watch speeches from Bush but when I do it's for comedy mostly (example: "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.")

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. That's why an island of mermen will emerge from the Atlantic tomorrow and within a year we will have a nice, happy society that is half-American, half-amphibious. It will be America's 51st state, Aqualand.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Bush is the last president whose speeches made you feel patriotic as well.

This is just your opinion.

If I want to hear a patriotic speech from a President, I will go to Obama, Biden and heck even Bill Clinton. Or go historical (FDR, Truman, JFK, etc). Not from any garbage spoken from Dubya.

I rarely watch speeches from Bush but when I do it's for comedy mostly (example: "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.")

Obviously Obama is a better orator than Bush and it’s not even close but Bush was really good at making you feel patriotic that I don’t think recent presidents were . Both Obama and Trump speeches mainly were about talking more about the stuff America was bad at than the stuff we were good at which makes sense given both were populist outsiders who won the White House .

Biden I actually feel in a different time would be really good at this too but times have changed and the country doenst value patriotism like it used to which is sad

[BlueSwan]

They clearly don't love America.

They love a particular idea of America, that doesn't exist. An America where only white, heterosexual christians live. That's not America.

[Yoda]

The latest poll shows. They love ❤️ this country,

Hate to break it to you, but a poll can't show if someone or group of people is patriotic. Only their actions can.

Real patriots value the Constitution, the idea of America, freedom and the will of the people (aka elections) over everything else. It's standing up for your country, not your political party. When you try to install by violence the guy who lost an election by 7 million votes, you are the furthest thing from a patriot, you're a terrorist, I don't care how much you say you like baseball. Polls have shown that the majority of the republican party does not believe that Jan 6th was a big deal, that it was merely legitimate political speech. To them, Colin Kapernick kneeling in protest was a national emergency, but cops getting beaten half to death was not. This shows that a majority of republicans don't even possess the basic concept of what true patriotism is. If that simple synopsis doesn't change your mind, then you're part of the problem. It's that simple.

[T'Chenka]

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. That's why an island of mermen will emerge from the Atlantic tomorrow and within a year we will have a nice, happy society that is half-American, half-amphibious. It will be America's 51st state, Aqualand.

Did you watch The Shape Of Water last night, Tim?

[Person Man]

They clearly don't love America.

They love a particular idea of America, that doesn't exist. An America where only white, heterosexual christians live. That's not America.

They see America as an identity, not an ideology or some concept of “good”. I’d like to think that America is forever, even long after our nation is partitioned, conquered, or “evolves” into something “not American”.

[dead0man]

maybe you could have made the argument in 2010, but since 2016 and especially since Jan 6th, it is impossible to make the argument that Republicans are patriots.  It's not redavs praising Putin in our Ukraine thread (granted it's only 1 or 2 or our Republicans doing it, but that's only because most of our Republicans are either non-Trumpers or are smart enough to know when to keep their mouths shut).

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. That's why an island of mermen will emerge from the Atlantic tomorrow and within a year we will have a nice, happy society that is half-American, half-amphibious. It will be America's 51st state, Aqualand.

Did you watch The Shape Of Water last night, Tim?

My first time hearing about that movie.

[emailking]

Dunkirk should have won.

[Blue3]

This just seems too much of a joke thread, even for bronz, to be serious... right? Right???

And if not, it's only because Republicans have twisted patriotism to resemble some of the superficialities of Republican-leaning areas.

[darklordoftech]

The Chennault Affair and Iran-Contra certainly weren’t patriotic and the PATRIOT Act and Guantanamo Bay were betrayals of America’s supposed values.