WaPo: The carnage that AR-15s cause to the human body

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https://twitter.com/FenitN/status/1640440106979827717

Absolutely horrific. These rifles should not be in civilian hands. Ban them (and other similar rifles).

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

weapon designed to kill people can kill people, more news at 8.

[DrScholl]

Any civilian that wants weapons like this is highly suspicious.

[T'Chenka]

Weapons designed to kill and mutilate as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, only belong on the battlefield.

[Meclazine for Israel]

That was brutal.

The story touches on the fact the politicians don't see the amount of damage these weapons cause.

Maybe the politicians should go to the autopsies of these mass shootings to get an idea.

It will take somebody killing over 100 people in one sitting before they ban these high powered semi-automatic rifles.

There is someone sitting at home right now in the US planning it.

[Ferguson97]

That was brutal.

The story touches on the fact the politicians don't see the amount of damage these weapons cause.

Maybe the politicians should go to the autopsies of these mass shootings to get an idea.

It will take somebody killing over 100 people in one sitting before they ban these high powered semi-automatic rifles.

There is someone sitting at home right now in the US planning it.

Nah. Sandy Hook was the point beyond return. If 20 white first graders being shot and killed doesn't persuade the GOP to pursue policy changes, nothing will.

[Orwell]

Y’all should see what a high caliber pistol can do to a person. Spoiler alert: it’s bad

[TheReckoning]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

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Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

No one said that AR-15s are the "cause" of the gun problem in this country. Everything else you said is irrelevant.

[Ferguson97]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

Okay, so let's ban handguns to.

[DrScholl]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

You have a better chance at survival against someone attacking you with their bare hands than being up against an AR-15. You also have a better chance of fleeing from handgun fire and of surviving being shot. AR-15's are designing to cause death almost instantly.

[Vosem]

I wonder if the Washington Post is going to start running ads for other weapons, too.

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I wonder if the Washington Post is going to start running ads for other weapons, too.

This is a sick statement.

[TheReckoning]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

Okay, so let's ban handguns to.

With 120 million handguns in circulation, vast majority of which are unregistered? Cat may be out of the bag on this one. Best we can hope for at this point, at least in the time being, is making law-abiding, responsible citizens armed as well- which can be done with a strict regulation program.

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

You have a better chance at survival against someone attacking you with their bare hands than being up against an AR-15. You also have a better chance of fleeing from handgun fire and of surviving being shot. AR-15's are designing to cause death almost instantly.

Clearly, this isn’t how most murderers think, given how they’re much more likely to use handguns- and even hands- than an AR-15 to kill someone.

[Ferguson97]

I wonder if the Washington Post is going to start running ads for other weapons, too.

If that article makes you want to buy an AR-15, there's something wrong with your brain.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

I wonder if the Washington Post is going to start running ads for other weapons, too.

If that article makes you want to buy an AR-15, there's something wrong with your brain.

This is the same one who said we were bigoted for saying that eliminating all welfare was a bad idea.

[SteveRogers]

Y’all should see what a high caliber pistol can do to a person. Spoiler alert: it’s bad

The pistol can’t do it to as many people at once from as far of a distance.

[Orwell]

Y’all should see what a high caliber pistol can do to a person. Spoiler alert: it’s bad

The pistol can’t do it to as many people at once from as far of a distance.

Eh, a drum magazine for a pistol or just an extended magazine isn’t hard to come by. A large portion of gun violence involves handguns.

[SnowLabrador]

This country is doomed.

[ProudModerate2]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

You have a better chance at survival against someone attacking you with their bare hands than being up against an AR-15. You also have a better chance of fleeing from handgun fire and of surviving being shot. AR-15's are designing to cause death almost instantly.

... and the ability to kill more people, more rapidly, at any given time.
This is what gun proponents don't want to hear. They know it's true, but instead, they try and delude their own tiny brain with "other hogwash," and try to deceive others by telling you/us/everyone that "handguns" kill more people.

Mass shootings are not known to happen with "a handgun." Do you get it now (a certain blue avatar in this thread)?

[TheReckoning]

Someone is way more likely to be killed in America by someone else’s bare hands than they are to be killed by an AR-15. Gun violence is a serious issue in America today, but AR-15s are not cause of the problem- handguns are.

You have a better chance at survival against someone attacking you with their bare hands than being up against an AR-15. You also have a better chance of fleeing from handgun fire and of surviving being shot. AR-15's are designing to cause death almost instantly.

... and the ability to kill more people, more rapidly, at any given time.
This is what gun proponents don't want to hear. They know it's true, but instead, they try and delude their own tiny brain with "other hogwash," and try to deceive others by telling you/us/everyone that "handguns" kill more people.

Mass shootings are not known to happen with "a handgun." Do you get it now (a certain blue avatar in this thread)?

No, most mass shootings are committed with a handgun, as a simple Google search will tell you.

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No, most mass shootings are committed with a handgun, as a simple Google search will tell you.

I'm not sure of this. "Mass shooting" is a very broad term (at least legally).

Gang members committing a drive-by shooting against 5 rival gang members would be considered a "mass shooting". A man at home shooting his wife, 2 children and then himself would be considered a "mass shooting".

While all gun violence is horrible (unless in the case of self-defense), that's not what most people think when they hear the term "mass shooting". Randomized shootings in public like the shooting in Nashville, Uvalde, Parkland, Pulse, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, etc are what people think of.

Among the latter, it definitely seems to me as the majority of those shootings (though not all) are committed using rifles and not handguns (sometimes with both).

[TheReckoning]

No, most mass shootings are committed with a handgun, as a simple Google search will tell you.

I'm not sure of this. "Mass shooting" is a very broad term (at least legally).

Gang members committing a drive-by shooting against 5 rival gang members would be considered a "mass shooting". A man at home shooting his wife, 2 children and then himself would be considered a "mass shooting".

While all gun violence is horrible (unless in the case of self-defense), that's not what most people think when they hear the term "mass shooting". Randomized shootings in public like the shooting in Nashville, Uvalde, Parkland, Pulse, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, etc are what people think of.

Among the latter, it definitely seems to me as the majority of those shootings (though not all) are committed using rifles and not handguns (sometimes with both).

Sure, but those mass shootings make a tiny portion of all gun homicides in this country. It seems rather foolish to focus on such a small cause of gun violence, when other forms are a much more serious issue.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Some latest numbers on mass shootings in the USA:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-30/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-us/102158776

"America has already witnessed 130 mass shootings in the first three months of 2023.

That's according to the Gun Violence Archive, which states there's already been 10,124 gun-related deaths in the US this year.

Of those deaths, 415 were children and teenagers.

Mass shootings have been steadily rising in the US over the last decade alone, with 647 incidents recorded last year, compared to 273 in 2014."

Some big numbers.

[SteveRogers]

No, most mass shootings are committed with a handgun, as a simple Google search will tell you.

I'm not sure of this. "Mass shooting" is a very broad term (at least legally).

Gang members committing a drive-by shooting against 5 rival gang members would be considered a "mass shooting". A man at home shooting his wife, 2 children and then himself would be considered a "mass shooting".

While all gun violence is horrible (unless in the case of self-defense), that's not what most people think when they hear the term "mass shooting". Randomized shootings in public like the shooting in Nashville, Uvalde, Parkland, Pulse, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, etc are what people think of.

Among the latter, it definitely seems to me as the majority of those shootings (though not all) are committed using rifles and not handguns (sometimes with both).

Sure, but those mass shootings make a tiny portion of all gun homicides in this country. It seems rather foolish to focus on such a small cause of gun violence, when other forms are a much more serious issue.

What a tedious, disingenuous argument. You’re right, most shooting deaths are caused by handguns. But saying that that means we should do nothing about rifle shootings is like saying we shouldn’t try to cure liver disease because more people die from heart disease and cancer. The mass shootings we’re talking about are a distinct category of violence from the average gun homicide. We’re talking about the shootings where schools, churches, and other vulnerable, victim-dense public places are targeted. Why shouldn’t there be specific efforts tailored towards addressing that specific phenomenon? Our society is being terrorized by these attacks right now, and if you don’t think that’s a serious problem, then you can’t be reasoned with.

Why is gun control talk preoccupied with semi-automatic rifles? Well for one thing, you have a much more plausible argument that the average law-abiding citizen should be allowed to keep a handgun in their home for self defense. I probably think there should be more rules than you do on how a person acquires one and where you get to carry it, but I don’t advocate for eliminating all handguns.

AR-15s and their ilk, on the other hand, are designed to inflict a specific type of violence. Simply put, they are tailor-made for committing mass shootings. Intentionally. That’s what they are built for. No one needs one to hunt a deer. No one needs one to ward off a mugger. They’re designed to kill as many opponents as possible as quickly as possible. And I acknowledge that many people use those guns lawfully to blow off steam at the gun range or have fun playing commando when they’re hunting or whatever, but they don’t need a weapon like that. I’m sorry, but the toll these weapons are taking on society is too high to be outweighed by the fun of gun hobbyists who think they’re cool.

Do I think banning or heavily restricting those guns will magically solve all violence? Of course not. But I think we owe it to the victims of Uvalde, Nashville, and all the other attacks to try something, anything, to take away the tools that keep making these tragedies possible.