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« on: March 26, 2023, 05:27:48 PM »

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/florida-tort-reform-now-law-effective-6940420/

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HB 837 includes the following provisions:

Reducing the statute of limitations for general negligence cases from four years to two years;

Changing Florida’s comparative negligence system from a “pure” comparative negligence system to a “modified” one under which a plaintiff who is more than 50 percent at fault for his or her own injuries is barred from recovering any damages; and

Encouraging transparency regarding damage awards by eliminating “phantom” medical expenses and providing uniform standards to assist juries to more accurately calculate the value of past and future medical expenses.


Reducing the amount of frivolous lawsuits is great and would be great if we applied it nationally especially when it comes to the medical industry as that would help reduce healthcare costs.
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2023, 05:34:05 PM »

Tort reform is the worst. DeSantis continues to be evil and satanic.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2023, 05:37:50 PM »

The litigious nature of the average American meat blob must be reined in. Good to see DeSantis is trying to stop lawyers from further enriching themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2023, 05:40:08 PM »

America is a litigious nation, and trial lawyers as a group lean liberal. This has been the norm for decades.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2023, 06:17:37 PM »

Lawyers are filth
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2023, 12:24:39 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2023, 12:26:21 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2023, 01:15:05 PM »

Also the FL legislature seems to be passing tort reform for property insurance which is very important .
Currently Florida is 10% of all claims nationwide which is relatively high but not super high. It however forms the majority of lawsuits nationwide which is insane .
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 01:17:17 PM »

Also the FL legislature seems to be passing tort reform for property insurance which is very important .
Currently Florida is 10% of all claims nationwide which is relatively high but not super high. It however forms the majority of lawsuits nationwide which is insane .

They're trying to stop the insurance companies from eventually pulling out of the state due to climate change in the future.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2023, 02:11:33 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

Attorneys know how to game the federal and state statutory fee structures, and they'll quietly lobby for a seemingly small change from an objective to subjective standard of Attorney Fee Arrangements.  I've literally watched Attorney Groups successfully lobby modifications to the laws in Disaster Relief Bills, because nobody wants to be responsible for holding-up relief funds.  I've worked at firms where we were allowed to base our attorney's fees on the amount our buddies would charge, and we'd provide them affidavits to justify their attorney fees.  These are supposedly 'reasonable' fees.  The statutory guarantee of our fees incentivizes larger firms to prolong weak cases with relatively little effort and time spent on clients, particularly when working in fields like Fair Wage laws.  In family law, Judges have an insanely biased incentive to prolong cases and discourage settlement, because part of the legal fees fund Judiciary Retirement funds. Obviously, Attorneys and Judges have an inventive not to 'rock the boat' by advocating against these laws even though we're in the best position to effectively challenge these statutes. Unless we're stepping on the profits of large industries, and that's a whole other problem.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2023, 02:39:11 PM »

A lot of very disgusting anti-lawyer hate and bigotry in this thread. I hope the moderators are reading closely.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2023, 04:50:01 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2023, 06:18:10 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Probably $1,000,000? I dunno, I think you could probably have an economist actually crunch the numbers on it to find out what the optimal salary would be.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2023, 07:08:19 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Probably $1,000,000? I dunno, I think you could probably have an economist actually crunch the numbers on it to find out what the optimal salary would be.

"Pfft, a $15 minimum wage isn't a slippery slope to a $75 minimum wage. Don't be ridiculous. Anyway, here's my idea to pay all lawyers a million dollars..."
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2023, 07:12:39 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Probably $1,000,000? I dunno, I think you could probably have an economist actually crunch the numbers on it to find out what the optimal salary would be.
Ah. Fair enough.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2023, 07:17:02 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Probably $1,000,000? I dunno, I think you could probably have an economist actually crunch the numbers on it to find out what the optimal salary would be.
If a base salary of a lawyer is a million dollars, then they would be in the top 1% of households.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2023, 08:17:38 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Probably $1,000,000? I dunno, I think you could probably have an economist actually crunch the numbers on it to find out what the optimal salary would be.
If a base salary of a lawyer is a million dollars, then they would be in the top 1% of households.

Yes, they would.

We should pay members of Congress $1M salaries for the same reason. Pay them enough that it becomes absolutely pointless to try and bribe them.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2023, 08:23:06 PM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Although a $1 million cap would hardly affect me, it's interesting to see people generally right of Center talking about a maximum salary for lawyers when any such talk about corporate Executives and like would be met with screams of socialism and squashing the American entrepreneurial spirit.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2023, 04:43:55 AM »

https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-nikki-fried-ethics-complaint-2023-3

He got hit with an ethics complaint
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2023, 06:18:53 AM »

The real solution is to impose a maximum wage on lawyers. As a lawyer I would happily support a maximum wage. Most lawyers are sickenly money-crazed.

I think the opposite would be a more effective reform - make their base salary so absurdly high that there's basically no incentive for them to take on frivolous lawsuits.
What kind of threshold do you think would be suitable for this approach?

Although a $1 million cap would hardly affect me, it's interesting to see people generally right of Center talking about a maximum salary for lawyers when any such talk about corporate Executives and like would be met with screams of socialism and squashing the American entrepreneurial spirit.

He's talking about a floor income for the 1.3M lawyers in the US... probably meant to post this in a week.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2023, 06:23:52 AM »

A lot of very disgusting anti-lawyer hate and bigotry in this thread. I hope the moderators are reading closely.

"Anti-lawyer bigotry"? Come on man, they are in no way an oppressed class, and are honestly kind of parasites, aside from public defenders.
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2023, 10:00:37 AM »

Good.

How about we put a cap on lawyer fees and ban commissions for them?

As for the 1M for congress critters and lawyers, no. Corruption isnt prevent by bribery, and corrupt scum are never satisfied no matter how much they have. I guarantee that even if you pay 100M/year that theyd still accept bribes. The obly thing thatll to is result in more government spending to pay those scumbags. We just need strixt laws on canpaign finance, lobbying, etc.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2023, 10:21:24 AM »

A lot of very disgusting anti-lawyer hate and bigotry in this thread. I hope the moderators are reading closely.

Most lawyers don't count as real people and thus are not protected by the website's anti-bigotry policies.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2023, 11:50:53 AM »

A lot of very disgusting anti-lawyer hate and bigotry in this thread. I hope the moderators are reading closely.

"Anti-lawyer bigotry"? Come on man, they are in no way an oppressed class, and are honestly kind of parasites, aside from public defenders.

A lot of very disgusting anti-lawyer hate and bigotry in this thread. I hope the moderators are reading closely.

Most lawyers don't count as real people and thus are not protected by the website's anti-bigotry policies.

And now we see eliminationist anti-lawyer rhetoric. One cannot help but be reminded of some of the darkest episodes of human history when reading ugly, violent speech like this. Poor Dave Leip must be spinning in his grave at the kind of bigotry now commonplace on his beloved forum.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2023, 11:58:47 AM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aPudKYKoRAc
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