Poll shows DeSantis policies are unpopular with general electorate

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://news.yahoo.com/poll-signature-desantis-policies-unpopular-with-americans-ahead-of-likely-presidential-run-220406760.html

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

They both Trump and Desantis won't win

[Ferguson97]

The new survey shows that more Americans oppose than favor seven out of eight signature policies put forward by DeSantis in Florida, with support ranging from 36% (for requiring public school books to be reviewed for content “the government deems inappropriate”) to a low of 21% (for “granting political appointees the power to fire tenured faculty members at public colleges and universities at any time and for any reason”).

Surprise surprise, normal people don't like culture war nonsense.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I mean many of these it’s all about how you frame the question . If you say blanket ban people are more likely to oppose but if you say should taxpayer money be used then you will get different results

[Lief 🗽]

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

[Barack Oganja]

Trump is facing multiple indictments, DeSantis is weird and won't get the blessing of Trump if he wins, literally just need Biden to stay healthy and unemployment under 4% and it'll be a second term

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

Because if he did he'd be boring and nobody would be hyping him up. He'd be about as interesting and talked about as Eric Holcomb.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I mean many of these it’s all about how you frame the question . If you say blanket ban people are more likely to oppose but if you say should taxpayer money be used then you will get different results

Do you know how RS got their slim majority in the H in SCOTUS Gerrymandering, Clarence Thomas, Gorsuch and Alito and Rs are blocking gun control, Voting Rights and Student loans Forgiveness that's why voters reject Rs

Most voters support Gun control because they aren't taking guns away but concealed weapons and assault weapons just like RS confuse people and say D's want to raise taxes no rich taxes they confuse and say take away guns no from criminal

millionaire tax pay for SSA and tax on upper income150K and over is gonna pay for Reparations I don't think many on Atlas makes 150K a yr anyways

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I mean many of these it’s all about how you frame the question . If you say blanket ban people are more likely to oppose but if you say should taxpayer money be used then you will get different results

This is akin to running on "defund the police" and just insisting that everyone should just listen to you explain what it REALLY means.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

Because if he did he'd be boring and nobody would be hyping him up. He'd be about as interesting and talked about as Eric Holcomb.

Boring doesn't seem to be the way to getting nominated President. Unless you are in the Democratic party.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

These are MAGA policies that will be rejected next Nov 24, no help from the Govt no Student loans Forgiveness no stimulus checks zero chance

DeSantis only won FL last yr he didn't win the Prez Eday and FL voted for him due to IAN and he is only 3 pts ahead of Biden in a FL poll

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

RS are pushing DeSantis because they are gonna get blown out and lose the Filibuster but even with DeSantis they will get blown out this isn't 2016 it's post Pandemic and 2008 wasn't 2004 either that's why Obama and Biden won over McCain

[LostInOhio]

I tend to agree more with the Allan Lichtman school of thought that the nominee doesn't matter much unless they are exceptionally charismatic. It is the party that makes the difference and the issue with the GOP appears to be systemic. Don’t expect DeSantis or anyone else to come riding in on a silver horse to save the Republicans and help them defeat an incumbent with good unemployment numbers.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The RS are gonna get blown out anyways it's not gonna be 5 seat D or R majority in 24 there are 15 vulnerable RS in blue Districts and it will expand we can easily get 230 H seats and if that happens we can keep the S

Users are looking at Eday all wrong they think the S is gonna make or break Eday it's the H and S comes afterwards that's why we can win OH, NC and FL all the seats that are compete are mostly in blue or swing districts not red districts on Red states

Like Landsman in OH, Jeff Jackson in NC they can help Brown and Stein out because those seats are purple seats not red seats and it's higher Turnout anyways in Prez

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

His wife, apparently.

[2016]

The Teachers Unions are trying to enact "Pornography" into Public Schools in Florida and elsewhere.

If I were Governor of Florida with 3 small children I would stand up to that as well.

For Democrats it is "Culture Wars". For Republicans and me it is "Common Sense".

[Vosem]

Oddly on looking through the actual poll I don't think it's that bad of a result for DeSantis. It's a poll of US adults (which are always to the left of likely/registered voters), and four of the eight policies tested have the 'intended' position under 50% with not-huge margins; several of these use phrasing that sort of presupposes the anti-DeSantis position (ie, the 'diversity equity inclusion' construction or 'for content the government deems inappropriate'). The remaining three are also flawed questions in various ways (the gun rights question, considering normal error on gun rights referendums, probably is popular -- background checks that are in the 80s in polling often fail, much less 60s; on abortion I know the FLGOP is considering a 6-week ban but the state has so far stuck to 15 weeks, and the current legislation has proponents and detractors).

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

Because if he did he'd be boring and nobody would be hyping him up. He'd be about as interesting and talked about as Eric Holcomb.

He'd still have the election results in Florida. OTOH I question how much Republican Governors not interested in the 'culture war' (here meaning the questions listed in this poll) even are a thing at all, outside of Phil Scott -- even those in relatively left-leaning states, like Youngkin and Sununu, have put substantial emphasis on educational reform (here meaning giving more powers to parents, who are presumed to be a conservative demographic).

Trump is facing multiple indictments, DeSantis is weird and won't get the blessing of Trump if he wins, literally just need Biden to stay healthy and unemployment under 4% and it'll be a second term

No Republican candidate has ever lost a general because they failed to get Trump's blessing; after the 2016 cycle there aren't even any underperformances that can be clearly linked to Trump's opposition. Part of the story of DeSantis (and similar campaigns in 2022 like DeWine's, who was actually significantly more old-school socially conservative) is in fact that even muted conflict with Trump gets you an enormous boost among swing voters, regardless of how right-wing your actual agenda has been, without causing any backlash at all among Trump's base.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

[Obiden2020]

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

[Progressive Pessimist]

If accurate, this is more evidence that the country at large does not want to become more like Florida. Furthermore it accentuates the prospect that DeSantis is not electable outside of Florida, a former alleged swing state that is careening hard towards being less representative of the entire country than ever.

Oh, and one more point: in spite of DeSantis' purported strength with Florida's economy, it appears that he is most associated with the culture war horses*** he unleashed on the state more than anything.

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

You're clearly new here, but nobody knows, and we may never know.

[coloradocowboi]

People also need to remember what happens to politicians who p*** off gay people. It will increase the amount of money raised and spent against him, galvanize volunteers (especially parents of LGBTQ people), rally the media and Hollywood against him, and intensify his opposition in every conceivable way. All to win the same old, slowly dying off Bible thumpers. Between all that and the 6 week abortion ban, I think he's honestly more polarizing than Trump and less likely to win

[2016]

If accurate, this is more evidence that the country at large does not want to become more like Florida. Furthermore it accentuates the prospect that DeSantis is not electable outside of Florida, a former alleged swing state that is careening hard towards being less representative of the entire country than ever.

Oh, and one more point: in spite of DeSantis' purported strength with Florida's economy, it appears that he is most associated with the culture war horses*** he unleashed on the state more than anything.

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

You're clearly new here, but nobody knows, and we may never know.

Culture Wars are actually more important than winning Elections. Republicans have to stand up to the Generation Z Wob Mob who is trying to rule America and the World.

Generation Z is the worst Generation on Earth.

[Barack Oganja]

Oddly on looking through the actual poll I don't think it's that bad of a result for DeSantis. It's a poll of US adults (which are always to the left of likely/registered voters), and four of the eight policies tested have the 'intended' position under 50% with not-huge margins; several of these use phrasing that sort of presupposes the anti-DeSantis position (ie, the 'diversity equity inclusion' construction or 'for content the government deems inappropriate'). The remaining three are also flawed questions in various ways (the gun rights question, considering normal error on gun rights referendums, probably is popular -- background checks that are in the 80s in polling often fail, much less 60s; on abortion I know the FLGOP is considering a 6-week ban but the state has so far stuck to 15 weeks, and the current legislation has proponents and detractors).

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

Because if he did he'd be boring and nobody would be hyping him up. He'd be about as interesting and talked about as Eric Holcomb.

He'd still have the election results in Florida. OTOH I question how much Republican Governors not interested in the 'culture war' (here meaning the questions listed in this poll) even are a thing at all, outside of Phil Scott -- even those in relatively left-leaning states, like Youngkin and Sununu, have put substantial emphasis on educational reform (here meaning giving more powers to parents, who are presumed to be a conservative demographic).

Trump is facing multiple indictments, DeSantis is weird and won't get the blessing of Trump if he wins, literally just need Biden to stay healthy and unemployment under 4% and it'll be a second term

No Republican candidate has ever lost a general because they failed to get Trump's blessing; after the 2016 cycle there aren't even any underperformances that can be clearly linked to Trump's opposition. Part of the story of DeSantis (and similar campaigns in 2022 like DeWine's, who was actually significantly more old-school socially conservative) is in fact that even muted conflict with Trump gets you an enormous boost among swing voters, regardless of how right-wing your actual agenda has been, without causing any backlash at all among Trump's base.

It's not about getting Trump's blessing, it's the fact that when Trump loses an election, he says it was rigged. He did it in 2020, and would have done it in 2016 if he had lost the primary or general, he said so himself that he could only lose if it was rigged. So if he loses to DeSantis he'll cry fraud and fracture the party, possibly depressing Republican turnout like he did for the GA runoffs

[Obiden2020]

If accurate, this is more evidence that the country at large does not want to become more like Florida. Furthermore it accentuates the prospect that DeSantis is not electable outside of Florida, a former alleged swing state that is careening hard towards being less representative of the entire country than ever.

Oh, and one more point: in spite of DeSantis' purported strength with Florida's economy, it appears that he is most associated with the culture war horses*** he unleashed on the state more than anything.

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

You're clearly new here, but nobody knows, and we may never know.

I've been lurking since the 2020 election, rare poster. Almost looks like some form of Pidgin English. No disrespect, I'm of African descent myself, I'm just curious where Mr. Barkari Sellers is from.

[Progressive Pessimist]

If accurate, this is more evidence that the country at large does not want to become more like Florida. Furthermore it accentuates the prospect that DeSantis is not electable outside of Florida, a former alleged swing state that is careening hard towards being less representative of the entire country than ever.

Oh, and one more point: in spite of DeSantis' purported strength with Florida's economy, it appears that he is most associated with the culture war horses*** he unleashed on the state more than anything.

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

You're clearly new here, but nobody knows, and we may never know.

I've been lurking since the 2020 election, rare poster. Almost looks like some form of Pidgin English. No disrespect, I'm of African descent myself, I'm just curious where Mr. Barkari Sellers is from.

He could be an alien, a bot, a troll. We seriously don't know if he even does live anywhere. And don't expect him to tell you.