Poll shows DeSantis policies are unpopular with general electorate

[Vosem]

Oddly on looking through the actual poll I don't think it's that bad of a result for DeSantis. It's a poll of US adults (which are always to the left of likely/registered voters), and four of the eight policies tested have the 'intended' position under 50% with not-huge margins; several of these use phrasing that sort of presupposes the anti-DeSantis position (ie, the 'diversity equity inclusion' construction or 'for content the government deems inappropriate'). The remaining three are also flawed questions in various ways (the gun rights question, considering normal error on gun rights referendums, probably is popular -- background checks that are in the 80s in polling often fail, much less 60s; on abortion I know the FLGOP is considering a 6-week ban but the state has so far stuck to 15 weeks, and the current legislation has proponents and detractors).

He could have just run as a competent, no-drama conservative governor who’s pushed back against “woke” overreach. Instead he’s decided to become a deranged fascist obsessed with the fringes of the culture war. Who the hell is advising this guy?

Because if he did he'd be boring and nobody would be hyping him up. He'd be about as interesting and talked about as Eric Holcomb.

He'd still have the election results in Florida. OTOH I question how much Republican Governors not interested in the 'culture war' (here meaning the questions listed in this poll) even are a thing at all, outside of Phil Scott -- even those in relatively left-leaning states, like Youngkin and Sununu, have put substantial emphasis on educational reform (here meaning giving more powers to parents, who are presumed to be a conservative demographic).

Trump is facing multiple indictments, DeSantis is weird and won't get the blessing of Trump if he wins, literally just need Biden to stay healthy and unemployment under 4% and it'll be a second term

No Republican candidate has ever lost a general because they failed to get Trump's blessing; after the 2016 cycle there aren't even any underperformances that can be clearly linked to Trump's opposition. Part of the story of DeSantis (and similar campaigns in 2022 like DeWine's, who was actually significantly more old-school socially conservative) is in fact that even muted conflict with Trump gets you an enormous boost among swing voters, regardless of how right-wing your actual agenda has been, without causing any backlash at all among Trump's base.

It's not about getting Trump's blessing, it's the fact that when Trump loses an election, he says it was rigged. He did it in 2020, and would have done it in 2016 if he had lost the primary or general, he said so himself that he could only lose if it was rigged. So if he loses to DeSantis he'll cry fraud and fracture the party, possibly depressing Republican turnout like he did for the GA runoffs

Republican turnout wasn't depressed for the GA runoffs; it was higher than presidential turnout in 2016. Democrats won persuadable voters, much as they did in 2022. (Consider that the GOP won the runoff for the non-federal position on the same ballot!).

I think Trump crying fraud is quite likely, but I think it isn't terribly likely to hurt unless he actively supports some third-party candidate, and there are a number of legal barriers that stand in the way of Trump running (unless he gets knocked out of the primary really fast, but in that case he wouldn't be much of a threat). This thread is about the more relevant problem for DeSantis, which might be that he's staked out some rather unpopular policy positions. I think the poll itself isn't actually all that bad, but it's gesturing towards a real phenomenon. (There really is a bill in Florida with majority support among the GOP to ban abortions later than 6 weeks, which would be a very unpopular position nationally. It has detractors within the GOP and I think it's questionable whether it passes, but it clearly might, and it wouldn't be vetoed if it does.)

[Kamala's side hoe]

If accurate, this is more evidence that the country at large does not want to become more like Florida. Furthermore it accentuates the prospect that DeSantis is not electable outside of Florida, a former alleged swing state that is careening hard towards being less representative of the entire country than ever.

Oh, and one more point: in spite of DeSantis' purported strength with Florida's economy, it appears that he is most associated with the culture war horses*** he unleashed on the state more than anything.

Common sense and Rs are blocking Student loans Discharge and guess how much Student loans Forgiveness is 300 B the same as Ukraine Aid from US Biden hasn't tagged DeSantis or Trump on Trump Judges blocking student loans Discharge because SCOTUS still has the case but R states KS, MO are blocking them and Kunce which is wave insurance is running against Hawley it's wave insurance if Trump is the nominee if the H breaks open for D's wave insurance if DeSantis is the nominee Biden would be more limited to just 303

Don't forget Sharice David's and Laura Kelly both won in KS, Kander came within 3 pts of Blunt in 2016 and Hillary didn't even win the EC college MO S won't be a repeat of 22, Hawley is up by 7 but he isn't gonna win 15 and MO replaces WV as our 51 seats after AZ, OH and MT

Where you from brotha, you have a very funny way of speaking

You're clearly new here, but nobody knows, and we may never know.

I've been lurking since the 2020 election, rare poster. Almost looks like some form of Pidgin English. No disrespect, I'm of African descent myself, I'm just curious where Mr. Barkari Sellers is from.

olawakandi is love, olawakandi is life.

I'm sure many others in the Leipverse know better than I, but he's widely believed to be a ADOS law student (or one-time law student) who has frequently posted here for several years. Am seconding Progressive Pessimist's opinion.

[TodayJunior]

Trump is facing multiple indictments, DeSantis is weird and won't get the blessing of Trump if he wins, literally just need Biden to stay healthy and unemployment under 4% and it'll be a second term

Just this. Nothing else is needed to defeat the ever-imploding and dithering national Gop. It’s really amazing and kinda pathetic how quickly they’re losing ground.