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King of Kensington
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2023, 06:51:12 PM »

This article suggests that 55% of Chicago's Germans were Catholic, based on geographic origin.

http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/512.html

I find that difficult to believe though.  Chicago whites are plurality-Catholic but only by a narrow margin according to Pew (38%-33%).  The Irish, Poles and Italians would make up most of that (though obviously there's mixing and a decent number would have at least some German ancestry).  But German ancestry is the most common in the region, so presumably they're a pretty big plurality of the White Protestant population.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/metro-area/chicago-metro-area/racial-and-ethnic-composition/white/
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2023, 08:23:38 PM »

The Texas Hill Country region northwest of San Antonio is famous for its large German population and I would imagine a lot of them are Catholic.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2023, 11:50:56 AM »

Someone already mentioned Ste. Genevieve, MO. I'd like to add Gasconade and Osage counties, MO. Leopold, MO in Bollinger County is also almost entirely Dutch-German Catholic.
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« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2023, 01:12:48 PM »

It’s not the case anymore, but my neighborhood in NYC was historically very German and religiously mixed. The nearby Catholic church still has a monthly mass in German, and there was apparently still a visible German presence in the neighborhood in the 1950s.
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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2023, 01:34:44 PM »

Ridgewood, Queens was perhaps the last German immigrant neighborhood in the US.  It received a lot of post-war German immigrants.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/25/nyregion/germans-came-now-they-are-us-ethnic-queens-neighborhood-melting-away-into.html

Before WWII, Germans were the largest ethnic group in Queens. 
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2023, 03:10:34 PM »

The NORC surveys ca. 1980 found that German Americans were 70% Protestant, 21% Catholic.

Source: Thomas Archdeacon, Becoming American (1984)
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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2023, 04:19:44 PM »

The NORC surveys ca. 1980 found that German Americans were 70% Protestant, 21% Catholic.

Source: Thomas Archdeacon, Becoming American (1984)

This would back up what I have seen that during the heaviest immigration period from the German states to the US, Prussia (and specifically the Brandenburg and East Prussia parts) experienced disproportionate brain drain.  In other words, those stats are just at little skewed in favor of Protestants than what the 1914 German Empire would have reported on the whole, and that would make sense.
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2023, 04:54:14 PM »

Yup, the 1880s wave was mostly Protestant.

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German immigration to the Badger State occurred in three waves. The first, from 1850 to 1860, was made up of settlers from mainly southern and western states, including Bavaria, Baden, Württemberg, the Rhineland and Palatinate regions, and Switzerland...During the second wave, from 1865 to 1875, Germans came to Wisconsin from northern areas such as Schleswig, Holstein, Hanover, and Westphalia...The years 1880 to 1890 marked the final and largest wave of 19th-century German immigration to the Badger State. Immigrants came from the northern and eastern regions of the German Empire, especially Brandenburg and Pomerania, and also from Silesia and Russia.

https://mki.wisc.edu/exhibits/npp/panel-02/
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2023, 05:10:00 PM »

Not only that, but the colonial era Germans were virtually all Protestant.
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2023, 05:30:50 PM »

Yup, the 1880s wave was mostly Protestant.

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German immigration to the Badger State occurred in three waves. The first, from 1850 to 1860, was made up of settlers from mainly southern and western states, including Bavaria, Baden, Württemberg, the Rhineland and Palatinate regions, and Switzerland...During the second wave, from 1865 to 1875, Germans came to Wisconsin from northern areas such as Schleswig, Holstein, Hanover, and Westphalia...The years 1880 to 1890 marked the final and largest wave of 19th-century German immigration to the Badger State. Immigrants came from the northern and eastern regions of the German Empire, especially Brandenburg and Pomerania, and also from Silesia and Russia.

https://mki.wisc.edu/exhibits/npp/panel-02/

It's so cool to see things like this, thank you for sharing!  I have spent a lot of time on Ancestry.com, and it matches up with my heritage well, as nearly all of my German ancestors - all Lutheran and from Brandenburg - came over in the 1880s.
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2023, 05:51:08 PM »

A look at the 1860 census which had some data on specific German states:

https://medium.com/migration-issues/what-kind-of-german-are-we-78feab5184c7
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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2024, 02:02:55 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2024, 02:06:28 PM by King of Kensington »

About 20% of German Americans are Catholic but higher in the Northeast and Midwest.

2014 General Social Survey:

Mid-Atlantic  36%
East North Central  31%
West North Central  38%
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2024, 02:05:38 PM »

How about the Texas Hill Country Germans?
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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2024, 02:09:18 PM »
« Edited: January 28, 2024, 02:14:33 PM by King of Kensington »

These are very small sample sizes, and the lowest level of geography is the 9 census divisions.  And there's no proxy measure one can devise to distinguish German Protestants and Catholics.

In West South Central, 11% of German Americans are Catholic.
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« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2024, 02:18:26 PM »

My moms area in east central Nebraska the Germans were Lutheran predominantly and the Catholics often Czechs, or Bohemians as they were called.
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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2024, 02:24:55 PM »

Of all German Americans surveyed in 2014, 64% Protestant and 23% are Catholic.

https://sda.berkeley.edu/sdaweb/analysis/?dataset=gss14nw

To runs these tables, type in the variables "ethnic" and "relig1."  To filter by region, type in region(x) for the 9 regions.  Region 3 is East North Central for example.
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