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« on: March 19, 2023, 10:49:30 AM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/19/poll-religion-christian-white/

" You might find it strange that a large segment of the Republican base thinks Whites are the true victims of racism and that Christians are under attack. After all, America’s biggest racial group is still Whites; the most common religious affiliation remains Christianity. Whites and Christians dominate elected office at all levels, the judiciary and corporate America. What’s the problem?
Well, there is a straightforward reason for the freak-out, and an explanation for why former president Donald Trump developed such a close bond with white Christian nationalists.
This group feels besieged because they are losing ground. “The newly-released 2022 supplement to the PRRI Census of American Religion — based on over 40,000 interviews conducted last year — confirms that the decline of white Christians (Americans who identify as white, non-Hispanic and Christian of any kind) as a proportion of the population continues unabated,” writes Robert P. Jones, president of the Public Religion Research Institute. “As recently as 2008, when our first Black president was elected, the U.S. was a majority (54%) white Christian country.” By 2014 the number had dropped to 47 percent, and in 2022 it stood at 42 percent."



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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2023, 10:53:14 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2023, 10:58:28 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.

The irony of it all is that; 1 in three American Evangelicals are people of color.
Fuller Seminary, which is one of the biggest Evangelical Seminaries on the West Coast, half of the falculty there are…

Koreans. The President of Fuller is Black.

In fact, the whitest Christian denominations, are actually the mainline Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA.
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2023, 11:12:44 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2023, 11:25:45 AM by Midnight Cowboy »

It's no secret. The country is becoming less white and less Christian and they don't like it, so they try to make a conspiracy out of it.

OTOH, I will give millennialist Christians this, the last few years have definitely felt like we're heading toward the end of the world...just without their persecution complex stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2023, 11:16:53 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.

The irony of it all is that; 1 in three American Evangelicals are people of color.
Fuller Seminary, which is one of the biggest Evangelical Seminaries on the West Coast, half of the falculty there are…

Koreans. The President of Fuller is Black.

In fact, the whitest Christian denominations, are actually the mainline Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA.

Sure, but those people aren't usually christian nationalists. They're sincere in their faith and probably more socially conservative in many ways... But they aren't whatever this brand of militant evangelism is that's growing in many fundamentally religious communities.

I use to go to both a majority Chinese, cause of my step-mom, and a majority Samoan church growing up in the Bay Area and while they were religious there was never the level of mixing politics and religion that I've seen in many majority white churches.

And it's gotten way worse since then, too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2023, 11:25:15 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.

The irony of it all is that; 1 in three American Evangelicals are people of color.
Fuller Seminary, which is one of the biggest Evangelical Seminaries on the West Coast, half of the falculty there are…

Koreans. The President of Fuller is Black.

In fact, the whitest Christian denominations, are actually the mainline Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA.

Sure, but those people aren't usually christian nationalists. They're sincere in their faith and probably more socially conservative in many ways... But they aren't whatever this brand of militant evangelism is that's growing in many fundamentally religious communities.

I use to go to both a majority Chinese, cause of my step-mom, and a majority Samoan church growing up in the Bay Area and while they were religious there was never the level of mixing politics and religion that I've seen in many majority white churches.

And it's gotten way worse since then, too.

2. Number 2. People who attend Church are LESS likely to vote Republican or for Donald Trump.



https://www.lsu.edu/research/news/2020/1109-unchurched.php

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2023, 11:34:14 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.

The irony of it all is that; 1 in three American Evangelicals are people of color.
Fuller Seminary, which is one of the biggest Evangelical Seminaries on the West Coast, half of the falculty there are…

Koreans. The President of Fuller is Black.

In fact, the whitest Christian denominations, are actually the mainline Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA.

Sure, but those people aren't usually christian nationalists. They're sincere in their faith and probably more socially conservative in many ways... But they aren't whatever this brand of militant evangelism is that's growing in many fundamentally religious communities.

I use to go to both a majority Chinese, cause of my step-mom, and a majority Samoan church growing up in the Bay Area and while they were religious there was never the level of mixing politics and religion that I've seen in many majority white churches.

And it's gotten way worse since then, too.

2. Number 2. People who attend Church are LESS likely to vote Republican or for Donald Trump.



https://www.lsu.edu/research/news/2020/1109-unchurched.php



There are a lot of non-denominational Christians who probably float between religious communities who are also part of the hard right for primarily cultural reasons, sure. That doesn't really disprove what I said... Which is simply that among the congregations who are already politically radicalized things are only getting worse and it's growing alongside/adjacent to the mainstreaming of white nationalism in those communities.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2023, 11:38:23 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.
How will it benefit them? What do they gain from diversity?
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2023, 11:38:35 AM »

That's a pretty big decrease over a relatively short period of time. What's the biggest factor here, an increase in nonwhite immigration or a decline in religiosity altogether?
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2023, 11:39:58 AM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.

The irony of it all is that; 1 in three American Evangelicals are people of color.
Fuller Seminary, which is one of the biggest Evangelical Seminaries on the West Coast, half of the falculty there are…

Koreans. The President of Fuller is Black.

In fact, the whitest Christian denominations, are actually the mainline Episcopal, and Presbyterian Church USA.

Sure, but those people aren't usually christian nationalists. They're sincere in their faith and probably more socially conservative in many ways... But they aren't whatever this brand of militant evangelism is that's growing in many fundamentally religious communities.

I use to go to both a majority Chinese, cause of my step-mom, and a majority Samoan church growing up in the Bay Area and while they were religious there was never the level of mixing politics and religion that I've seen in many majority white churches.

And it's gotten way worse since then, too.

2. Number 2. People who attend Church are LESS likely to vote Republican or for Donald Trump.



https://www.lsu.edu/research/news/2020/1109-unchurched.php



There are a lot of non-denominational Christians who probably float between religious communities who are also part of the hard right for primarily cultural reasons, sure. That doesn't really disprove what I said... Which is simply that among the congregations who are already politically radicalized things are only getting worse and it's growing alongside/adjacent to the mainstreaming of white nationalism in those communities.


So these voters must be living in a Bubble or something.


What is the disconnect between their fears that Christianity and white America is declining and the growing diversity in American Evangelical Christianity?

What are we missing ?

Why isn’t anyone reporting the fact that the whitest denominations are actually the mainline ones like Episcopalianism ?
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2023, 11:45:41 AM »

Fundamentalist Christianity melding itself with the Republican party only to see fewer people wanting to associate with their form of Christianity:

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2023, 12:01:41 PM »

That's a pretty big decrease over a relatively short period of time. What's the biggest factor here, an increase in nonwhite immigration or a decline in religiosity altogether?

Increase in Non White Immigration, and decline in religiosity among White Americans.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2023, 12:02:43 PM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.
How will it benefit them? What do they gain from diversity?

It won't benefit them in any way, but I would argue they're pretty poor Christians if that's the only thing they care about.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2023, 12:06:11 PM »

When you've been use to privilege all your life, equality may feel like oppression.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Here's hoping the kids of these reactionaries will be a little better adjusted to a more diverse and equitable society.
How will it benefit them? What do they gain from diversity?

Everyone benefits from diversity, it creates a more fruitful culture and a more prosperous society.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2023, 05:47:36 PM »

Being in a panic is a core part of their ideology and always has been
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2023, 07:38:56 PM »

One of the things that annoys me about this is that they correctly say that white Christians are not oppressed but repeat the lie that white Christians dominate corporate America. Maybe like railroads and oil companies but white Christians are massively underrepresented in the leadership of tech companies, the Biden administration, or higher education. Like outside of maybe congress (although even there the senate is led by a Jewish man) what institutions do white Christians make up more than their share of leadership in this country?
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2023, 07:54:39 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2023, 08:13:01 PM by EastwoodS »

One of the things that annoys me about this is that they correctly say that white Christians are not oppressed but repeat the lie that white Christians dominate corporate America. Maybe like railroads and oil companies but white Christians are massively underrepresented in the leadership of tech companies, the Biden administration, or higher education. Like outside of maybe congress (although even there the senate is led by a Jewish man) what institutions do white Christians make up more than their share of leadership in this country?
White, right wing, Christians do not need anymore power like that at all. It’s a great thing the only thing they have can control is the volume over their greasy remote to watch their late night incel daddy Tucker Carlson.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2023, 07:56:40 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2023, 08:05:31 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

They control the wealth whom are 65 M in Poverty mostly people of color that's a big chunk or the Electorate that's why Ds win 80/75M

Reverrand Barber is campaign all over blk Battleground states TX, FL, NC, AZ and repeats this over and over 65 M are poor and minority are only 30 percent we have middle class minorities but there aren't rich unless you are a celebrity whites have inheritance wealth like Trump

Dr King didnt die for rich he died for sanitation workers people poor

That's why there is a need for a calling on Reparations


Whites live off of annual ties and mutual funds and stocks when they retire , Blks live off SSA only.

Do you know how much an annualty cost like 900 whom has that type of money except Whites
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