What will it take for the MI/WI/PA/MN rurals to vote like OH/IA/IN?
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« on: March 09, 2023, 09:01:10 PM »

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2023, 09:04:21 PM »

By that point, the OH/IA/IN rurals will start voting like Missouri's.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2023, 10:45:17 AM »

By that point, the OH/IA/IN rurals will start voting like Missouri's.

Which they will not.

Well, Indiana maybe, but definitely not Ohio or Iowa.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2023, 01:12:20 PM »

The 2030s.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2023, 02:50:32 PM »

A little more time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2023, 10:38:29 PM »

The total collapse of the Democratic Party?
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2023, 03:23:10 AM »

PA rurals are different from the other three, and arguably already do. It's going to take at least a decade for this to happen, I think.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2023, 03:51:35 AM »
« Edited: March 18, 2023, 04:30:34 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

It's never gonna vote to that way because of tax cuts and Rust belt is Unions don't support tax cuts they support tax increases on the super rich

Gore said lower tax rates for middle class and Poor from 25 to 15 but keep top tax rates at 40 percent Bush W caused the worse recession by lower 40 to 35

That's like saying when is CA, IL and NY will go R Zeldin almost won because he was similar to Chris Sununu but at the Fed level NY will never vote R
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2023, 07:12:55 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2023, 07:15:59 AM »
« Edited: March 18, 2023, 07:19:04 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »


LoL no those are union states they take out Uniom dues for Donations to Ds that want taxes raised on rich not poor, poor people don't pay but 2 K a yr in taxes anyways where middle class and rich pay 10/20 K per yr when they deduct taxes from your lottery they said it's used for education PELL GRANTS TO GO TO COLLEGE AND UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL AND K-12 AND STUDENT LOANS

I worked at so many jobs and they took out Uniom dues that went to Ds totally up to 2500 on taxes but I got my taxes back in refunds people don't account for refunds of your taxes either because the Corp taxes pay for your SSA

It's a blue wave despite Hunter Laptop two polls confirm it QU Biden 49/45 and FL is tied🌊🌊🌊

Some users still think it's a red wave no it's not

I wouldn't have posted the FL POLL
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2023, 08:46:49 AM »

True.
The grandkids of scandinavian socialists from the 1930's still live.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2023, 08:56:48 PM »

It's never gonna vote to that way because of tax cuts and Rust belt is Unions don't support tax cuts they support tax increases on the super rich

Gore said lower tax rates for middle class and Poor from 25 to 15 but keep top tax rates at 40 percent Bush W caused the worse recession by lower 40 to 35

That's like saying when is CA, IL and NY will go R Zeldin almost won because he was similar to Chris Sununu but at the Fed level NY will never vote R
Missouri -> Iowa -> Wisconsin. It will happen.
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2023, 08:57:58 PM »


LoL no those are union states they take out Uniom dues for Donations to Ds that want taxes raised on rich not poor, poor people don't pay but 2 K a yr in taxes anyways where middle class and rich pay 10/20 K per yr when they deduct taxes from your lottery they said it's used for education PELL GRANTS TO GO TO COLLEGE AND UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL AND K-12 AND STUDENT LOANS

I worked at so many jobs and they took out Uniom dues that went to Ds totally up to 2500 on taxes but I got my taxes back in refunds people don't account for refunds of your taxes either because the Corp taxes pay for your SSA

It's a blue wave despite Hunter Laptop two polls confirm it QU Biden 49/45 and FL is tied🌊🌊🌊

Some users still think it's a red wave no it's not

I wouldn't have posted the FL POLL
Joe Biden is DOA in the state of Florida.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2023, 11:17:04 PM »

I have not looked at all the states you listed but if you compare rural counties in MN to rural counties in IA they are already voting pretty close to one another. Not a perfect measure but if you look at counties with < 50,000 population in both states Trump won 64% of the vote in IA, 62% in MN. The reason MN votes to the left of IA is those counties make up 46% of the population in IA but only 25% of the population in MN.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2023, 11:45:27 PM »

Most "rural" areas in Minnesota are actually just counties dominated by smaller towns and small cities, like Alexandria and Brainerd. Those cities are conservative, but nothing like the other states mentioned or most true rural areas. That's because they still have a decent amount of college educated whites as well as non-white voters too. For example Brainerd voted for Trump by 16 points, but its county voted for Trump by almost 30. But demographically Trump is kind of maxed out in Brainerd and in the rural areas too because they already vote quite conservative. So there's really not much more room to grow.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2023, 12:13:28 PM »

Most "rural" areas in Minnesota are actually just counties dominated by smaller towns and small cities, like Alexandria and Brainerd. Those cities are conservative, but nothing like the other states mentioned or most true rural areas. That's because they still have a decent amount of college educated whites as well as non-white voters too. For example Brainerd voted for Trump by 16 points, but its county voted for Trump by almost 30. But demographically Trump is kind of maxed out in Brainerd and in the rural areas too because they already vote quite conservative. So there's really not much more room to grow.
Interesting. Wonder if the same applies to WI.
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