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Maxwell
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« on: November 19, 2013, 05:47:01 PM »

Lol Gerry Brown
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 09:06:40 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2014, 11:33:40 PM by IDS Legislator Maxwell »

34. Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (1953-1961)
35. Richard Nixon/Henry Lodge (1961-1969)
36. John F. Kennedy/Hubert Humphrey (1969-1971)
37. Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie (1971-1977)
38. Ronald Reagan/Dan Evans (1977-1981)
39. Robert F. Kennedy/Daniel P. Moniyhan (1981-1989)
40. Daniel P. Moynihan/Lloyd Bentsen (1989-1993)
41. Tom Kean/William Armstrong (1993-2001)
42. Al Gore/Joe Biden (2001-2009)
43. George Allen/John McCain (2009-2017)

Or

34. Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (1953-1961)
35. Richard Nixon/Henry Lodge (1961-1969)
36. Scoop Jackson/George Smathers (1969-1977)
37. Charles Mathias/Gerald Ford

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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 12:16:48 AM »

Nixon Assassinated
Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew - 1969 - 1972
Sprio Agnew/Howard Baker - 1972 - 1974
Howard Baker/Gerald Ford - 1974 - 1981
Frank Church/Walter Mondale - 1981 - 1989
Walter Mondale/Al Gore - 1989 - 1997
William Weld/Dan Quayle - 1997 - 2005
John McCain/Christine Whitman - 2005 - 2009
Al Gore/Barack Obama - 2009 - 2017

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 10:40:54 PM »

Presidents

Wendell Willkie/Charles McNary (1941-1949)
Dwight Eisenhower/Harry Truman (1949-1959)
Harry Truman/Vacant (1959-1961)

Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (1961-1969)
Robert F. Kennedy/George Smathers (1969-1974)
George Smathers/Vacant (1974-1974)
George Smathers/Frank Church (1974-1977)
Robert Ray/William Brock (1977-1981)
Jerry Brown/Mo Udall (1981-1989)
Mo Udall/Gary Hart (1989-1993)
Tom Kean Jr./John McCain (1993-2001)
Connie Mack/Liz Dole (2001-2005)
Joe Biden/Al Gore (2005-2009)
Mitt Romney/Sarah Palin (2009-2017)
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 12:54:35 AM »
« Edited: August 11, 2014, 03:07:26 PM by Maxy »

Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (1969-1973)
Edmund Muskie/Birch Bayh (1973-1981)
John Danforth/Phil Crane (1981-1989)
Phil Crane/Howard Baker (1989-1997)
Mario Cuomo/Bill Clinton (1997-2005)
John McCain/George Allen (2005-2009)
Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson (2009-2017)
Mike Pence/Jon Huntsman (2017-2025)

Losing tickets:
1976: Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker
1980: Birch Bayh/Ted Kennedy
1984: Ted Kennedy/Patsy Mink
1988: Paul Simon/Bill Clinton
1992: Al Gore/Ann Richards, Ross Perot/James Stockdale
1996: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
2000: John McCain/Lamar Alexander
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: Incumbents lose.
2012: Sarah Palin/Mitt Romney
2016: Bill Richardson/Barack Obama
2020: Mark Warner/Julian Castro
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 04:22:19 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2014, 05:17:12 PM by IDS Emperor Maxwell »

Presidents
26. Teddy Roosevelt (Republican): 1901-1909
27. William Howard Taft (Republican): 1909-1913
28. Teddy Roosevelt (Bull-Moose): 1913-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (Bull-Moose): 1919-1921
30. Thomas Marshall (Democrat): 1921-1929
31. Charles W. Bryan (Democrat): 1929-1933
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Bull-Moose): 1933-1945
33. Henry Wallace (Bull-Moose turned Democrat): 1945-1949
34. Robert Taft (Republican): 1949-1953
35. Dwight Eisenhower (Bull-Moose): 1953-1961
- Bull-Moose party moves from internationalist liberal ideology to third-wayist with the election of Eisenhower.
36. Lyndon Johnson (Democrat): 1961-1969
37. Ronald Reagan (Republican): 1969-1977
38. Charles Mathias (Bull-Moose): 1977-1981
39. George H.W. Bush (Republican): 1981-1989
- Bull-Moose Party wiped out during 1986 mid-terms.
40. Larry Pressler (Republican): 1989-1993
41. Mario Cuomo (Democrat): 1993-2001
42. Bill Bradley (Democrat): 2001-2009
43. Jeb Bush (Republican): 2009-onward
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 05:53:26 PM »

George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL) 1981-1989
Howard Baker (R-TN)/Bill Armstrong (R-CO) 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1997-2001
John McCain (R-AZ)/Chuck Hagel (R-NE) 2001-2009
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 2017-2021
Cory Gardner (R-CO)/Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-2029
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 10:51:12 PM »
« Edited: January 15, 2015, 11:05:18 PM by IDS Speaker Maxwell »

Two Two Term Presidents in Forty Years

Presidencies
1961-1965 - John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson
1965-1969 - Bill Scranton/Barry Goldwater
1969-1973 - George McGovern/Robert Branigan
1973-1974 - Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
1974-1977 - Spiro Agnew/None
1977-1981 - Dan Evans/Howard Baker
1981-1989 - Robert Kennedy/Dale Bumpers
1989-1993 - Dale Bumpers/Al Gore
1993-1997 - William Armstrong/James Baker
1997-2001 - Ann Richards/Doug Wilder
2001-2009 - John Kasich/Elizabeth Dole

Defeated
1964 - John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson
1968 - Bill Scranton/Barry Goldwater
1972 - George McGovern/Gaylord Nelson (Robert Branigan endorsed Nixon)
1976 - Scoop Jackson/Sam Nunn
1980 - Ronald Reagan/Bill Simon (beat Howard Baker in the primary)
1984 - Ronald Reagan/Majorie Holt
1988 - George Deukmejian/Sandra Day O'Connor
1992 - Dale Bumpers/Al Gore
1996 - William Armstrong/James Baker
2000 - Ann Richards/Doug Wilder
2004 - Wesley Clark/Patrick Leahy
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 11:55:08 AM »

Presidents
1962-1969 - Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)
1969-1971 - George Wallace (AI-AL)*/Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)
1971-1973 - Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)/None
1973-1977 - Colonel Sanders (AI-KY)/John Stennis (AI-MS)
1977-1981 - Frank Church (D-ID)/Dale Bumpers (D-AR)
1981-1989 - George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL)
1989-1997 - Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1997-2001 - Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)
2001-2005 - Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)/Rick Santorum (AI-PA)
2005-2009 - Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2009-2017 - Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Michael Bloomberg (R-NY)

Defeated Candidates
1968 - Hubert Humphrey (D-MN), Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1972 - George McGovern (D-SD), Harold Stassen (R-MN)
1976 - Mark Hatfield (R-OR), George Mahoney (AI-MD)
1980 - Frank Church (D-ID), John T. Williams (AI-AZ)
1984 - Dale Bumpers (D-AR), Fob James (AI-AL)
1988 - Phil Crane (R-IL), John Stennis (AI-MS)
1992 - Pat Buchanan (R/AI-DC)
1996 - William Weld (R-MA), Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)
2000 - Bill Clinton (D-AR), Jim Edgar (R-IL)
2004 - Michael Bloomberg (R-NY), Mike Huckabee (AI-AR)
2008 - Joe Biden (D-DE), Rick Santorum (AI-PA)
2012 - Hillary Clinton (D-NY), David Duke (AI-LA)

Description -
The failures of the Lyndon Johnson administration left the race wide open for President. In a major shock, Richard Nixon decides not to run for President, and instead Nelson Rockefeller defeats Ronald Reagan in the most contentious floor fight ever seen. Ronald Reagan, stung, refuses to endorse Rockefeller, calling him a "tax and spend coward". Hubert Humphrey, dealing with struggles on his own, falls behind in the polls too. It's the charismatic Colonel Sanders, who, after thinking long and hard, joins the George Wallace ticket and with financial backing, turns the racial ticket into a viable option. They perform pathetically outside of the native south, but win 38% of the vote and a good 230 Electoral votes, enough to wage a fight. Convincing conservatives that Rockefeller nor Humphrey will perserve their interests, Wallace wins in the Senate and Sanders in the House, and get sent to the White House.

Wallace is swiftly assassinated in November of 71, allowing Colonel Sanders to become President. Sanders, as a figure, made Americans more comfortable with the basically racist ticket, and his economic successes lend him few challengers. George McGovern, running on hard civil rights, gained a lead for a bit before completely collapsing. The Republican candidate, Harold Stassen, was a complete joke, and Sanders wins a good 48% of the vote - not enough to claim a majority, but a solid victory based on the sympathies of those who mourn Former President Wallace.

Sanders turns out to be a disaster in terms of managing the country, and by 1975 it's clear that Sanders couldn't even win re-nomination as a American Independent. Vice President John Stennis, still popular with the base and having cross-over appeal, decides not to run for President, leaving the fledgling fascist party in shambles. George Mahoney, Maryland perennial candidate, wins the nomination with 45% of the vote over several other perennial candidates, but it's already too late. Mahoney receives 8% of the vote, a stark drop from Sanders win. The main battle was between Republican moderate Mark Hatfield and Democratic liberal Frank Church. Church, campaigning on change in America, attacked Hatfield as not a stark enough change from Sanders. Church won by a narrow 1%, even though he led in polls by as much as 30% in September.

The American Independent Party from there went on a fact finding mission - should they be a racist, fascist organization? Or should they drift into the mainstream as a right-wing populist party. Mike Huckabee, a Governor of Arkansas and a pastor, moved the party to the mainstream and with the work of ally Former Congressman Rick Santorum, a former Republican moderate, turned the party into a christian coalition organization. In 1992, they pushed the nomination of Pat Buchanan as the Republican and the American Independent Nominee, and were successful in the mission, causing the Republicans to lose by a 2-1 margin. Then, in 1996, Huckabee ran his own campaign, taking 20% of the vote, the best performance for the party in a solo battle in years. Finally, in 2000, people had had enough of the affairs and the recession of President Bill Clinton, and Huckabee, running on fiscal reform, fair trade, and Clinton's digressions, won the Presidency with 35% of the vote to Clinton's 31% and Edgar's 29%.

Huckabee, however, also proved unpopular, making comments left and right offending each and every man, woman, and child, and so overescalating war effort in Iraq that it caused disaster. After a balanced budget in the Clinton administration, Huckabee went into double dip deficits, and the economy was sickly. Clinton, an oppurtunist as ever, made a substatial comeback against Huckabee, and though Huckabee won 28% of the vote, he barely held any electorals at all outside of the native southern base where the American Independent Party thrived.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2015, 08:58:32 PM »

41. Michael Dukakis/Llyod Bentsen - 1989-1993
42. William Armstrong/Howard Baker - 1993-2001
43. Connie Mack/Liddy Dole - 2001-2005
44. Joe Biden/Bob Graham - 2005-2009
45. Mitt Romney/Rob Portman - 2009-2013
46. Cory Booker/Amy Klobuchar - 2013-2021
47. Joni Ernst/Jeff Flake - 2021-2025
48. Tamera Daisy*/Gwen Graham - 2025-2033
49. Bradford Williams*/Wanda Rodriguez* - 2033-2037
50. Edward Warez*/Adam Smith* - 2037-onwards

*Tamera Daisy was the female, African American Senator from Georgia. Fairly progressive, though pragmatic on foreign policy. As biting and controversial as Ernst for the Republicans, but more contentful.

*Bradford Williams is the Democratic Governor of Pennsylvania. Considered something of a technocrat, won the nomination over the objections of the serious hispanic control of the party. Something of a Frank Underwood type.

*Wanda Rodriguez, the female Democratic Senator of Texas, and a leader of the notable hispanic wing of the Democratic party. Fought Williams for the nod. Regretfully accepted the Vice Presidential ticket to satisfy party leaders.

*Edward Warez, California's Governor, a hispanic male in his 60s, with a sturdy chin and greying hair. Very distinguished, served under Republican and Democratic administrations. Honest, caring, and socially liberal.

*Adam Smith, a Republican Congressman from a rural and Democratic area of Kentucky, understands the concerns of the common man.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2015, 09:40:10 AM »

28. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican-NY) 1913-1921
29. John W. Davis (Democratic-WV) 1921-1925*
30. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic-NY) 1925
31. Robert M. La Follette (Labor-WI) 1925*
32. Burton K. Wheeler (Labor-MT) 1925-1929
33. Frank O. Lowden (Republican-IL) 1929-1933
34. Norman M. Thomas (Labor-NY) 1933-1941
35. Robert A. Taft (Republican-OH) 1941-1943*
36. Dewey J. Short (Republican-MO) 1943-1945
37. Harry F. Byrd (Democratic-VA) 1945-1949
38. Harold Stassen (Republican-MN) 1949-1953
39. Wayne Morse (Labor-OR) 1953-1957
40. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic-TX) 1957-1961
41. Barry M. Goldwater (Republican-AZ) 1961-1968**
42. Henry C. Lodge (Republican-MA) 1968-1969
43. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-NY) 1969-1974*
44. George Romney (Republican-MI) 1974-1977
45. Henry M. Jackson (Labor-WA) 1977-1983*
46. Walter Mondale (Labor-MN) 1983-1985
47. George H.W. Bush (Republican-CT) 1985-1993
48. H. Ross Perot (Independent, then National Unity-TX) 1993-2001
49. Eric R. Boucher (United Left-California) 2001-2005
50. George W. Bush (Republican-CT) 2005-2013
51. Roseanne Barr (United Left-California) 2013-

*Died in office
**Assassinated

Wait. The lead singer of the Dead Kennedy's? I guess anything can happen in a post-Perot world.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2015, 10:57:11 AM »

Indeed. It also helps that history has changed dramatically since 1912.

I would love to see at least one of your Alternative President's list turned into a timeline, though I have no doubt that I can imagine what happens in each one to some extent.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 02:34:14 AM »

Fascinating to see Nixon rise so late and a Laborite Giuliani.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 12:48:53 AM »

List of Presidents
42. William Clinton (D-AR) [1993-1998]
43. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) [1998-2005]
44. Russell Feingold (D-WI) [2005-2009]
45. Charlie Crist (R-FL) [2009-2013]
46. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) [2013- Onwards]

List of Vice President
45. Al Gore (D-TN) [1993-1998]
46. Max Baucus (R-MT) [1998-2005]
47. Joe Biden (D-DE) [2005-2009]
48. George Allen (R-VA) [2009-2013]
49. Harold Ford (D-TN) [2013-Onwards]

Losing Tickets
2004 - Max Baucus (R-MT)/Fred Thompson (D-TN)
2008 - Russ Feingold (D-WI)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2012 - George Allen (R-VA)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2016 - George Allen (R-VA)/Rand Paul (R-TX)
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2015, 11:04:31 AM »
« Edited: April 03, 2015, 11:23:48 AM by BILL CLINTON »

Presidents in the crazy world
43. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2009-2017
44. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sherrod Brown (D-OH) - 2017-2021^
45. Raul Labrador (R-ID)/Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 2021-2025*
46. Miranda Hernandez (D-AZ)/Robert Wilson (D-CA) 2025-2033
47. Robert Wilson (D-CA)/Ken Wuarez (D-TX) 2033-2037*
48. Tina Walsh (R-OR)/Skip Hugo (R-NH) 2037-2045

^ Clinton retires
* Labrador loses re-election
* Wilson loses re-election

- Miranda Hernandez was the Governor of Arizona, one termer. She runs a surprisingly progressive administration in Arizona and is DOA for re-election in the state. She's already running for President anyway though! She faces against party favorite, California Senator Robert Wilson, who has done a good job shaking hands with both progressives and the business class. Wilson, however, runs an inept campaign and Hernandez manages to score a major upset. Hernandez term in office (she rather easily defeats the unpopular Labrador) goes rather smoothly, as she implements popular policies. After winning her second term in a landslide, things go down south a bit after promoting a universal healthcare policy.

- Robert Wilson is something of a technocrat. Before he ran for President, he was two term Senator of California. Wilson has good relations with progressives, but for all intents and purposes does not consider himself one. Despite a harsh primary battle, he and Hernandez have good relations. Wilson does some backing away from Hernandez when running as President himself, and he defeats Republican candidate Tina Walsh in a surprisingly narrow contest. His performance in office is considered strong, much stronger than the firm Hernandez, the disastrous Labrador, or even the mediocrity of Clinton, but faces a tough economic situation handed down from his predecessors and faces an incredibly tough re-election battle he does not make it the other side out of.
- Ken Wuarez is a conservative Democrat from Texas who won a hotly contested battle with Louie Gohmert. Wuarez was the luckiest man in Texas politics whose opponents seemed to walk into landmines. His entry to national politics was not positive however - Wuarez proved scandalous after being inuagerrated as Vice President, and Wilson chose not to run with him again in 2036.

- Tina Walsh was a two term Governor of Oregon. Socially progressive, economically moderate, and a foreign policy realist, she is the dream candidate of many of the moderate wing of the Republican Party. She faces off for the nomination against Kentucky Governor Frank Stevens, an arch-social conservative, and Senator from South Dakota Yu Han, considered a staunch budget hawk, and the split of the two allowed her to edge a victory in the primaries during 2032. She lost against Wilson, but she ran surprisingly strong against him. She faced Yu Han again in 2036, and Han almost won, but her last week of the primaries proved to be successful with strong wins in New Jersey, Ohio, and North Carolina. She beat Wilson by the same margin she lost to him in 2036, and her Presidency presided over strong economic recovery and general peace.

- Skip Hugo was a Senator from New Hampshire. Considered something of an elitest, he was a conservative on most issues, but shared Walsh's pro-gay rights positioning. His pick was somewhat angering to conservatives, but they came around to his pick when it came down to the fact that it would be either Walsh or Wilson (Wilson was despised by the Republican base).
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2015, 03:38:33 PM »

Ford Comeback

38. Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977)
39. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (1977-1981)
40. Gerald Ford/Bill Brock (1981-1985)
41. Gary Hart/Dale Bumpers (1985-1989)
42. Dale Bumpers/Bob Graham (1989-1993)
43. George Deukmejian/John McCain (1993-2001)
44. Steve Ford/Lamar Alexander (2001-2009)
45. Michelle Obama/Wesley Clark (2009-2017)
46. Wesley Clark/Joaquin Castro (2017-2021)
47. Ben Sasse/Susana Martinez (2021-2029)

Tickets that Lost
1976 - Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1980 - Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1984 - Bill Brock/Paul Laxalt
1988 - George Deukmejian/Donald Rumsfeld
1992 - Dale Bumpers/Bob Graham
1996 - Paul Wellstone/Al Gore
2000 - John Kerry/Richard Gephardt
2004 - John Kerry/John Edwards
2008 - John McCain/Eric Cantor
2012 - Mike Huckabee/Jon Huntsman
2016 - John Gardner Ford/Scott Walker
2020 - Wesley Clark/Joaquin Castro
2024 - Kirsten Gillibrand/Kamela Harris
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2015, 11:57:35 PM »

44. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2009-2017
45. John Kasich (R-OH)/Marco Rubio (R-FL)* - 2017-2023
45. John Kasich (R-OH)/Eric Greitens (R-MO) - 2023-2025
46. Martin Heinrich (D-NM)/Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2025-2033
47. Julian Castro (D-TX)/Ronald Chase (D-PA)* - 2033-2041
48. John "Chev" Hernandez (R-TX)*/Donald Paul (R-IN)* 2041-2049


*Marco Rubio, amid a corruption scandal, resigned the Vice Presidency.
*Ronald Chase, representative of the party's populist wing, is the Senator from Pennsylvania who actively opposed free trade measures pushed by Heinrich administration. Castro wasn't opposed by this faction, but actively they needed it.
*John "Chev" Hernandez, before his Presidency, was the Governor of Texas, Congressman, and Four Star General. He was from the military and establishment wing of the party, supporting supply side economics, big military spending, and immigration reform. Hernandez faced vocal opposition from the grassroots, but proved to be a strong candidate in the general election in 2040.
*Donald Paul, before his Vice Presidency, was a former U.S. Senator from Indiana and the son of Rand Paul. A representative of the grassroots, he stood stalwart against Hernandez on budgets, and immigration. Nevertheless, even more so than his father, he knew to get his message across within the party wings, and agreed to the Hernandez ticket.
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2015, 05:23:05 PM »

2009-2017: Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
2017-2025: Hillary Clinton (D-VA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
2025-2029: Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Carlos Curbelo (R-FL)
2029-2033: Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Patrick Murphy (D-FL)
2033-2041: Carlos Curbelo (R-FL)/Elise Stefanik (R-NY)
2041-2045: Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/George Ramos (R-TX)*
2045-2053: Victoria Ortiz (D-AZ)*/Gina Wilson (D-MN)*

Presidential Losers:
2016 - Governor Scott Walker/Senator Marco Rubio
2020 - Senator Cory Gardner/Senator Kelly Ayotte
2024 - Vice President Tim Kaine/Governor Tim Ashe
2028 - President Paul Ryan/Vice President Carlos Curbelo
2032 - President Kamala Harris/Vice President Patrick Murphy
2036 - Fmr. Vice President Patrick Murphy/Governor Ruben Gallego
2040 - Governor Robert Wilson (D-PA)*/Senator Bernard Sanders II (D-MA)*
2044 - President Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/Vice President George Ramos (R-TX)*
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2015, 04:21:50 PM »

44. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2009-2017
45. Donald Trump (I-NY)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 2017-2021
46. Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) - 2021-2026
47. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Jim DeMint (R-SC) 2026-2027


In 2026, The country breaks down into utter despair, as Senator Ted Cruz stages a coup of the White House, forcing unpopular President Cory Booker and Vice President Kirsten Gillibrand to resign in disgrace. President Ted Cruz calls for the expansion of America in Mexico and Canada. But after his rapid ascension to the White House, his unlikableness quick gains him many enemies, and he is assassinated a year into his tenure as Grand Overlord. The country recovers from the error in its ways, and forces several large constitutional changes. One of those changes - the President is elected every two years, and the Senate selects a Vice President.

The Republican Party dies after Cruz's tenure - with several faction parties representing the varying interests of the GOP continuing to live on, but seperated. This causes the Democrats to sweep elections for two decades. The right of center finally coaleses around the Conservative Party in 2033, but have few successes thanks to the memory of Cruz. It takes President Ben Williamson, a policy head with a knack for pissing people off, and Vice President (also Senate Majority Leader) Rodney Douglas III, a very corrupt man, to send the people wanting a return, and Williamson's vain attempt at a fourth term really set people off.

48. Julian Castro (D-TX)/Gary Peters (D-MI) 2027-2031
49. Jeff Jackson (D-NC)/Janet Martinez (D-FL) 2031-2037
50. Janet Martinez (D-FL)/Mark Hruska (D-MN) 2037-2041
51. Ben Williamson (D-PA)/Rodney Douglas III (D-NY) 2041-2045
51. Ben Williamson (D-PA)/Mark Paul (C-OH) 2045-2047
52. Hector Salvatore (C-TX)/Mark Paul (C-OH) 2047-2051
52. Hector Salvatore (C-TX)/Jennifer Rogers (D-CA) 2051-2053
53. Jennifer Rogers (D-CA)/Daniel Castro (D-TX) 2053-2057
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2015, 11:48:22 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2015, 02:21:26 PM by maxheem »

1973-1981: Ed Muskie/Walter Mondale
1981-1985: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
1985-1993: Ted Kennedy/Jimmy Carter
1993-1997: Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton
1997-2005: John Ashcroft/Jeanne Kirkpatrick
2005-2009: John Kerry/Dick Gephardt
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2015, 10:44:19 PM »

Era of a New Majority
44. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE): 2009-2017
45. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Martin Heinrich (D-NM): 2017-2021
46. Martin Heinrich (D-NM)/Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY): 2021-2025
47. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/Evan Jenkins (R-WV): 2025-2033
48. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ)/Michael Frerichs (D-IL): 2033-2041
49. Michael Frerichs (D-IL)/Jamie Carmichael (D-NY)*: 2041-2049
50. Kate Wilson (R-TX)*/Rick Lopez (R-CO): 2049-2057


Losers:
2016: Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Rob Portman (R-OH)
2020: Mike Pence (R-IN)/Marco Rubio (R-FL)
2024: Martin Heinrich (D-NM)/Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
2028: Anthony Foxx (D-NC)/Bill DeBlasio (D-NY)
2032: Evan Jenkins (R-WV)/Tom Cotton (R-AR)
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2015, 11:22:20 PM »

Presidents
33. Harry Truman (D-MO)/None - 1945-1949
34. Earl Warren (R-CA)/Thomas Dewey (R-NY) - 1949-1957
35. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)/Paul Douglas (D-IL) - 1957-1961
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 1961-1969
37. John Kennedy (D-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 1969-1977
38. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Jimmy Carter (D-GA) - 1977-1981
39. John Danforth (R-MO)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 1981-1989
40. Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1989-1993
41. H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Richard Lugar (R-IN) - 1993-1997
42. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA) - 1997-2002*
43. John Kerry (D-MA)/None - 2002-2005
44. H. Ross Perot Jr. (R-TX)/John McCain (R-AZ) - 2005-2009
45. John Kerry (D-MA)/Barack Obama (D-IL) - 2009-2013
46. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Caroline Kennedy (D-MA) - 2013-2021

Losers
1948 - Harry Truman (D-MO)/Alben Barkely (D-KY)
1952 - Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Richard Russell (D-GA)
1956 - Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Robert Taft (R-OH)
1960 - Estes Kefauver (D-TN)/Paul Douglas (D-IL)
1964 - Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Stuart Symington (D-MO)
1968 - Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1972 - Howard Morgens (R-NY)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)
1976 - Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Howard Baker (R-TN)
1980 - Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1984 - Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/John Glenn (D-OH)
1988 - Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Bob Dole (R-KS)
1992 - Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1996 - H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Richard Lugar (R-IN)
2000 - John McCain (R-AZ)/Colin Powell (R-NY)
2004 - John Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2008 - H. Ross Perot Jr. (R-TX)/John McCain (R-AZ)
2012 - Scott Brown (R-MA)/Bob McDonnell (R-VA)
2016 - Sarah Perot (R-TX)/Rand Paul (R-KY)
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2015, 02:02:34 AM »

Presidents
45. Donald J. Trump (R-NY) - 2017-2025
46. Bill DeBlasio (D-NY) - 2025-2029
47. Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 2029-2033
48. Benni Jacobs (R-PA) [Fic] - 2033-2037
49. Jessica Schwartz (D-UT) [Fic] - 2037-2045

VP's
48. Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 2017-2020
49. Sam Clovis (R-IA) - 2021-2025
50. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 2025-2029 (snooze)
51. Benni Jacobs (R-PA) [Fic] - 2029-2033
52. Harly Quarles (R-KY) [Fic] - 2033-2037
53. Chelsea Clinton (D-NY) - 2037-2045

2024 Election - For all the yuuuuge successes of The Donald's first term, his second term was a disaster. All of his bad traits caught up to him - his shoot first as questions approach got us in a war with Russia. His spending practices caught up to us, with the debt approaching $50 Trillion. And America is starting to stagnate after years of profound growth. And Trump's successor, Sam Clovis, was not exactly in great shape. After a bruising primary with business class favorite Elise Stefanik, he was forced to put her on the ticket. And Clovis came out profoundly weakened against New York Governor Bill DeBlasio, who won the Democratic primary in very popular fashion, and picked Senate elder Amy Klobuchar to be VP, who had no prior past of saying negative things about the candidate like Stefanik did with Clovis. With Trump's approval ratings hovering at around 20%, Clovis did little to close that gap as a Trump loyalist, and lost in a 45-state landslide, only winning Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Alabama, and Clovis' home state of Iowa. Disasterous!

2028 Election - Bill DeBlasio, a man of commendable courage and lacking in corrupt practices, proved to be a disaster as President. The problems Trump left for DeBlasio caused his administration to fall apart under the pressure. DeBlasio's diplomatic measures proved to be a mess, the DeBlasio budget proved to be massively unpopular, as it hiked taxes and cut spending to the bone. Liberals had fallen out of DeBlasio's favor, Moderates had, and conservatives already had. DeBlasio faced a potential primary challenge from Keith Ellison, but managed to dodge it. Instead he faced the first business class Republican nominee since 2012, Former House Speaker Paul Ryan, whose time away from politics proved to immensely helpful in his primary victory. To console the Trumpites, including the elder godfather President Donald J. Trump, who had began rising again from the shadows, he picked Pennsylvania Senator Benni Jacobs, a Trumpite and a woman, to the VP. DeBlasio kept the election close, as the economy began slowly picking up and we saw wars across the globe start to end, but his early missteps had already doomed him, with Ryan narrowly winning thanks to the swing state Utah, which hadn't voted Republican since 2016 (A state that is an easy win for Business Class Republicans, a doomed loss for the Trumpites). Turn out was the lowest since 1996.

2032 Election - President Ryan proved to be... not that much better than DeBlasio. His time away from politics proved fatal to his management of the nation, as his plan for tax cuts once again blew up the deficit. And lowering trade barriers proved fatal to the Trump wing, who had given Ryan some level of leniency toward the beginning of his term. They would have none. Vice President Benni Jacobs proved to be the first VP since Thomas Jefferson to challenge a sitting President. She made that allusion often. Ryan, filled with contempt, refused to endorse her after she narrowly edged the President out of her position. She didn't care though - in her years as Vice PResident, she had gone from political outsider to a master politician, and built her own alliances. She stood for unions, she denounced the President's trade deals, she put fellow Trumpite Harley Quarles, Governor of Kentucky, on the ticket. Her Democratic opponent, California Governor Ben Jackson, proved to be the foil she needed. Jackson was as establishment as it got, and showed some sympathy for old school conservative politics like voucher programs and had a certain anti-union sentiment. Jacobs went on the attack hard, and even received some endorsements from union leaders and prominent Democrats despite her strong line on most conservative issues (including illegal immigration). Jacobs won a surprisingly large victory, even as the incumbent Republican voted Democrat for the first time in his life. If you told someone even in 2031 that Benni Jacobs would be the first woman President, they would slap in your face and laugh, but it happened.

2036 - Jacobs was a master political operator... but a disaster as President. Surely enough, she was ousted by a finally competent administration in Schwartz/Clinton.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2015, 11:10:00 PM »

Presidents
43. Al Gore (D-TN) - 2001-2009
44. Jim Webb (R-VA) - 2009-2017
45. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 2017-2021
46. Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2021-2029
47. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) - 2029-2033
48. Chelsea Clinton (D-PA) - 2033-2041

VP's
46. Bob Graham (D-FL) - 2001-2009
47. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 2009-2017
48. Scott Walker (R-WI) - 2017-2019
49. Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 2020-2021
50. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2021-2029
51. George P. Bush (R-TX) - 2029-2033
52. Seth Moulton (D-MA) - 2033-2041

Losing Candidates
2000 - George W. Bush (R-TX)/J.C. Watts (R-OK)
2004 - John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA)
2008 - Bob Graham (D-FL)/Barack Obama (D-IL)
2012 - Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Brad Miller (D-NC)
2016 - Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Keith Ellison (D-MN)
2020 - Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Elise Stefanik (R-NY)
2024 - Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Marco Rubio (R-FL)
2028 - Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/John Carney (D-DE)
2032 - Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/George P. Bush (R-TX)
2036 - Elise Stefanik (R-NY)/Stewart Mills (R-MN)
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2015, 01:55:50 AM »
« Edited: December 06, 2015, 04:11:58 AM by Maxwell »

Cuomo, the Legacy Family
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1989-1993
42. H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Bill Armstrong (R-CO) - 1993-1997
43. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Al Gore (D-TN) - 1997-2001
44. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA) - 2001-2009
45. Mike Pence (R-IN)/John McCain (R-AZ) - 2009-2017
46. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Julian Castro (D-TX) - 2017-Present

Losing Tickets
1988: Vice President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1992: President Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1996: President H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Vice President Bill Armstrong (R-CO)
2000: Former President H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)
2004: Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
2008: Vice President John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
2012: Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)
2016: Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Senator H. Ross Perot Jr. (R-TX)
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