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MAINEiac4434
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,269
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Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -8.78

« on: May 25, 2011, 10:19:21 AM »

This is from one of my althists on Althist wiki. This is all highly improbable.

Backstory: Samuel J. Tilden wins California and the presidency in 1876

Samuel J. Tilden/Thomas A. Hendricks, Democrat (1877-1881)
James G. Blaine/John A. Logan/George F. Edmunds, Republican (1881-1889)
Grover Cleveland/Allen G. Thurman, Democrat (1889-1893)
Thomas B. Reed/Matthew S. Quay, Republican (1893-1900)
Matthew S. Quay/None, Republican (1900-1901)
William Jennings Bryan/Arthur Sewall, Democrat (1901-1905)[1]
William B. Allison/Levi P. Morton, Republican (1905-1908)
Levi P. Morton/William Howard Taft, Republican (1908-1909)
Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson, Progressive (1909-1917)
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas R. Marshall, Democrat (1917-1924)
Thomas R. Marshall/None, Democrat (1924-1925)
Robert M. LaFollette/Burton K. Wheeler, Progressive (1925-1933)[2]
William Gibbs McAdoo/Herbert Hoover, Democrat (1933-1937)[3]
Franklin D. Roosevelt/James M. Cox, Progressive (1937-1945)[4]
James M. Cox/Harry Truman, Progressive (1945-1949)
Thomas Dewey/Robert Taft, Democrat (1949-1953)
Dwight D. Eisenhower/Earl Warren, Independent, Progressive (1953-1961)
John F. Kennedy/Hubert H. Humphrey, Progressive (1961-1969)
Earl Warren/Edmund Muskie, Progressive (1969-1974)[5]
Edmund Muskie/George McGovern, Progressive (1974-1981)
Ronald Reagan/George Bush, Democrat (1981-1989)
Ted Kennedy/Jerry Brown, Progressive (1989-1997)
Al Gore/Bill Bradley, Progressive (1997-2005)
John McCain/Tom Ridge (2005-2009)
Barack Obama/Pat Leahy (2009-pres.)

[1]Bryan's VP Arthur Sewall dies early in his term, and is never replaced.
[2]Robert LaFollette lived longer than 1925 in this timeline. He instead dies in 1935.
[3]The Great Depression doesn't stat until 1933.
[4]Roosevelt ran for three terms, but died in 1945, early in his third. James Cox became president.
[5]

NOTE: In 1910, Roosevelt's Progressives overtake most if not all of the Republican party's left-leaning members, and the Democrats continue to be on the right of the American political spectrum. The Republican Party is still around, but never returns to prominence
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MAINEiac4434
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,269
France


Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -8.78

« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 03:03:58 AM »

President of the United States:

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt: March 4, 1933 - April 12, 1945 (1)
33. Paul V. McNutt: April 12, 1945 - January 20, 1953
34. Douglas MacArthur: January 20, 1953 - January 20, 1961
35. John F. Kennedy: January 20, 1961 - November 22, 1963 (2)
36. Stuart Symington: November 22, 1963 - January 20, 1969
37. George Smathers: January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
38. Ronald Reagan: January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981
39. Walter Mondale: January 20, 1981 - April 4, 1981 (3)
40. Robert F. Kennedy: April 4, 1981 - January 20, 1989
41. Robert Dole: January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
42. Jimmy Carter: January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2001
43. Al Gore: January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
44. John McCain: January 20, 2005 - January 8, 2008 (4)
45. Kay Bailey Hutchison: January 8, 2008 - January 20, 2013
46. Barack Obama: January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2021 (5)

1. Died of a cerebral hemorrhage
2. Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald
3. Assassnated by John Hinckley
4. Died of a heart attack
5. Elected to a second term

60 Democratic years to 28 Republican years? Doesn't seem hackish at all...
Well let's see here. 1932 through 1964 all had the same party winning elections. 1968 was an agonizing narrow victory for the GOP, any number of things could've swung it to the Democrats. Republicans very narrowly lost in 1976, and honestly if the campaign had gone on another week IRL Ford probably would've won. Seeing as a Republican would've been in office during the Iran hostage crisis and the OPEC embargo, it's probable we'd see a swing towards the Dems in 1980, and incumbent strength carry him through to 1984. 1988-1996 are the same. Al Gore received the most votes in 2000 IRL.

I don't think it's as unrealistic as you posit.
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MAINEiac4434
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,269
France


Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -8.78

« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 11:01:41 PM »

Eisenhower Doesn't Run.

Presidents of the United States of America
34. Adlai E. Stevenson II: 1953-1957
35. Richard M. Nixon: 1957-1965
36. John F. Kennedy: 1965-19711
37. Stuart Symington: 1971-1973
38. Mark Hatfield: 1973-1977
39. Edmund Muskie: 1977-1985
40. Robert F. Kennedy: 1985-19872
41. Bill Clinton: 1987-1989
42. John McCain: 1989-1993
(41.) Bill Clinton: 1993-1997
43. William Cohen: 1997-2005
44. Hillary Clinton: 2005-2013
45. Mitt Romney: 2013-2017
46. Barack Obama: 2017-pres.

1 John F. Kennedy, riddled with the effects of Addison's Disease for the final nine months of his presidency, dies on March 15, 1971. Most of his duties had already been passed to Vice President Symington.

2 Robert F. Kennedy is shot and killed by a "sovereign citizen" on July 9th, 1987.

Vice Presidents of the United States of America
36. John Sparkman: 1953-19551
Vacant: 1955-1957
37. Leverett Saltonstall: 1957-1965
38. Stuart Symington: 1965-1971
Vacant: 1971-1973
39. Hiram Fong: 1973-1977
40. Dale Bumpers: 1977-1985
41. Bill Clinton: 1985-1987
42. Frank Lautenberg: 1987-1989

43. William Cohen: 1989-1993
44. Joe Biden: 1993-1997
45. Nancy Landon Kassebaum: 1997-2005
46. Ron Wyden: 2005-2013
47. Cathy McMorris Rodgers: 2013-2017
48. Tim Kaine: 2017-pres.

1 Sparkman opposed civil rights initiatives supported by Stevenson, and told the President that if there was a 48-48 Senate tie for the Civil Rights Act of 1954, he would cast the tiebreaking vote against it. Stevenson subsequently froze Sparkman out of the day-to-day decisionmaking, locked Sparkman out of his West Wing office, and had most of his staff reassigned. Sparkman, frustrated, resigned on May 2nd, 1955. The Civil Rights Act of 1954 passed.
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MAINEiac4434
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,269
France


Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -8.78

« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2017, 03:32:40 PM »

Eisenhower Doesn't Run.

Presidents of the United States of America
34. Adlai E. Stevenson II: 1953-1957
35. Richard M. Nixon: 1957-1965
36. John F. Kennedy: 1965-19711
37. Stuart Symington: 1971-1973
38. Mark Hatfield: 1973-1977
39. Edmund Muskie: 1977-1985
40. Robert F. Kennedy: 1985-19872
41. Bill Clinton: 1987-1989
42. John McCain: 1989-1993
(41.) Bill Clinton: 1993-1997
43. William Cohen: 1997-2005
44. Hillary Clinton: 2005-2013
45. Mitt Romney: 2013-2017
46. Barack Obama: 2017-pres.

1 John F. Kennedy, riddled with the effects of Addison's Disease for the final nine months of his presidency, dies on March 15, 1971. Most of his duties had already been passed to Vice President Symington.

2 Robert F. Kennedy is shot and killed by a "sovereign citizen" on July 9th, 1987.

Vice Presidents of the United States of America
36. John Sparkman: 1953-19551
Vacant: 1955-1957
37. Leverett Saltonstall: 1957-1965
38. Stuart Symington: 1965-1971
Vacant: 1971-1973
39. Hiram Fong: 1973-1977
40. Dale Bumpers: 1977-1985
41. Bill Clinton: 1985-1987
42. Frank Lautenberg: 1987-1989

43. William Cohen: 1989-1993
44. Joe Biden: 1993-1997
45. Nancy Landon Kassebaum: 1997-2005
46. Ron Wyden: 2005-2013
47. Cathy McMorris Rodgers: 2013-2017
48. Tim Kaine: 2017-pres.

1 Sparkman opposed civil rights initiatives supported by Stevenson, and told the President that if there was a 48-48 Senate tie for the Civil Rights Act of 1954, he would cast the tiebreaking vote against it. Stevenson subsequently froze Sparkman out of the day-to-day decisionmaking, locked Sparkman out of his West Wing office, and had most of his staff reassigned. Sparkman, frustrated, resigned on May 2nd, 1955. The Civil Rights Act of 1954 passed.
Defeated tickets:

1952:
Senator Robert Taft/Senator Owen Brewster

1956:
President Adlai Stevenson/Senator Estes Kefauver

1960:
Senator Lyndon B. Johnson/Senator Vance Hartke

1964:
Governor Nelson Rockefeller/Senator Margaret Chase Smith (R) and Senator Barry Goldwater/Congressman William E. Miller

1968:
Governor Ronald Reagan/Senator Bob Dole

1972:
President Stuart Symington/Senator Hubert H. Humphrey

1976:
President Mark Hatfield/Vice President Hiram Fong

1980:
Fmr. Governor Ronald Reagan/Senator George Bush

1984:
Senator George Bush/Senator John Sununu

1988:
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Frank Lautenberg

1992:
President John McCain/Vice President William Cohen

1996:
Vice President Joe Biden/Governor Al Gore

2000:
Senator John Kerry/Senator Bob Graham

2004:
Senator John Ensign/Governor Mark Sanford

2008:
Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum/Governor Sarah Palin

2012:
Secretary Bill Richardson/Senator Joe Lieberman

2016:
President Mitt Romney/Vice President Cathy McMorris Rodgers
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MAINEiac4434
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,269
France


Political Matrix
E: -7.42, S: -8.78

« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2017, 07:14:48 PM »

37. Richard M. Nixon (1969-1974)
38. Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977)
39. Ronald Reagan (1977-1981)

40. George Mitchell (1981-1989)
41. Walter Mondale (1989-1993)

42. Warren Rudman (1993-2001)
43. Al Gore (2001-2009)
44. John McCain (2009-2017)
45. Barack Obama (2017-)
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