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Maxwell
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2016, 07:31:22 PM »

List of Presidents
42. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1993-2001
43. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)* - 2001-2003
44. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)* - 2003-2009
45. Condoleezza Rice (R-AL)* - 2009-2017
46. Donald Trump (D-NY)* - 2017-Current

List of Vice Presidents
45. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1993-2001
46. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) - 2001-2003
47. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2003-2009
48. George Voinovich (R-OH) - 2009-2017
49. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 2017-Current

Losing Tickets
2000 - George W. Bush/Dick Cheney
2004 - John McCain/Bill Frist
2008 - Joe Biden/Barack Obama
2012 - Hillary Clinton/Chris Van Hollen
2016 - Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio*

* After Paul Wellstone's death, Jeanne Shaheen proved to be a decent stewart for the nation from his death until 2005, and as a result, Republicans did little to help Senator McCain's ailing bid for the White House. She would end up winning by 5 points - a margin much smaller than public polls indicated, but nevertheless a solid victory. After 2005, though, she proved to be out of her league, with several international disasters falling on her shoulders and her administration basically falling into a tailspin over bad economic indicators. This resulted in the worst Democratic defeat since the days of Reagan in 2008 - where Alabama Senator Condoleezza Rice rose the nation beyond partisanship to fight economic woes while old Vice President Joe Biden didn't even stand a chance.

*Despite Rice's inspirational speeches and her nearly 10 point victory over Biden, Rice would have a tough time even managing a 60 Republican Senate, passing her major objective (education reform) on the backs of Republicans alone. This resulted in massive losses across the nation. Rice was initially not favored for re-election, but the Democrats had a rough and tumble primary between Senator Clinton, Former Speaker Dick Gephardt, and Former Governor Bill Richardson. Clinton picked progressive voice Congressman Chris Van Holen to rally progressives, but Rice ended up beating Clinton with a somewhat underwhelming 4 point margin of victory. Rice's administration continued to coast on extreme opinions about her - Republicans glowing over her efforts to beat a Democratic Congress, Democrats rampaging over her conservative record and goals.

*As Rice's term in office came to a close, Democrats began seeking out the best candidate to knock out likely Republican nominee Mitt Romney. Democrats had what some called the world's best field, but the field quickly lost out to a final three of Businessman Donald Trump (a fiery populist and progressive, deeply in favor of the Black Lives Matter movement), Senator Elizabeth Warren (a ideologically rigid and staunch progressive and opponent of the administration), and Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio (an ideological moderate who touts his electibility). Initial frontrunner, former nominee Hillary Clinton, was summarily laughed off the stage by Trump, and Clinton's pestering successor to the legacy, New York Senator Huma Abedin, proved to be not much better at it, losing New York by 20 points to Donald Trump even as Strickland won Ohio. Trump would end up usurping the nomination from the political elite, though not without a fight from Warren. Meanwhile, on the Republican side, Romney faced a tougher than expected fight from Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, who ran on a conservative populist message combining libertarian themes and paleoconservative themes, challenging the trade agenda of the current administration.

*Romney and Trump came out victors of their primaries. Trump made a concession to the grassroots that had opposed some of Trump's conservative stances (like his stance in favor of cutting income taxes) and put Warren on the ticket, while Romney went for a 1st and picked Miami County Mayor Marco Rubio to be his Veep. Romney's move was criticized as Rubio seemed inexperienced, and in fact, Rubio proved in many interviews to be not very knowledgable on national issues. In a surprise, the progressive populist Trump ended up beating the unpopular Romney and now the world is in a panic.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2016, 10:02:16 PM »

List of Presidents
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1973)
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1973-1981)
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) (1981-1986)
40. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) (1986-1989)
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) (1989-1993)
42. Lee Iacocca (D-PA) (1993-2001)
43. John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2005)
44. Paul Wellstone (D-MN) (2005-)


List of Vice Presidents
39. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) (1969-1973)
40. John Connally (R-TX) (1973-1981)
41. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) (1981-1986)
42. Walter Mondale (D-MN) (1986-1989)
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
44. Michael Dukakis (D-MA) (1993-2001)
45. Colin Powell (R-NY) (2001-2005)
46. John Kerry (D-MA) (2005-)

Defeated Tickets
1968: Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1972: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME)
1976: Scoop Jackson (D-WA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
1980: John Connally (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN)
1984: Phil Crane (R-IL)/Jeanne Kirkpatric (R-OK)
1988: Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Chuck Robb (D-VA)
1992: Bob Dole (R-KS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1996: John McCain (R-AZ)/Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
2000: Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Al Gore (D-TN)
2004: John McCain (R-AZ)/Colin Powell (R-NY)
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 09:27:46 PM »

Presidents
39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) - 1977-1981
40. Bob Dole (R-KS) - 1981-1989
41. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) - 1989-1997
42. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1997-2001
43. Colin Powell (R-NY) - 2001-2009
44. Maggie Cuomo (D-NY) - 2009-2013
45. H. Ross Perot Jr. (R-TX) - 2013-2021

Vice Presidents
42. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) - 1977-1981
43. Alexander Haig (R-PA) - 1981-1984
44. Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 1984-1989
45. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) - 1989-1997
46. Sam Nunn (D-GA) - 1997-2001
47. John McCain (R-AZ) - 2001-2009
48. Ken Salazar (D-CO) - 2009-2013
49. Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 2013-2021
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2016, 04:48:02 PM »

Bush re-elected

Presidents
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 1989-1997
42. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) - 1997-2001
43. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2001-2009
44. Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 2009-2017
45. Ben Carson (D-MD) - 2017-Onwards

Vice Presidents
44. Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 1989-1997
45. Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 1997-2001
46. Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 2001-2009
47. W. Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 2009-2017
48. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 2017-Onwards

Defeated Tickets
1992 - Clinton/Gore, Perot/Stockdale
1996 - Biden/Richards, Perot/Lamm
2000 - Alexander/Cheney
2004 - Ashcroft/Ridge
2008 - Kerry/Klobuchar
2012 - Van Hollen/Lewis
2016 - Romney/Ryan

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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2016, 02:54:53 PM »

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Nelson Rockfeller (R-NY), Bob Dole (R-KS) - 1974-1981
39. Edwin Edwards (D-LA)/Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 1981-19861
40. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Gary Hart (D-CO) - 1986-19892
41. George Deukmejian (R-CA)/John Danforth (R-MO) - 1989-1997
42. John Danforth (R-MO)/Dick Cheney (R-WY), Glenn Hubbard (R-FL) - 1997-20013
43. Robert Kerrey (D-NE)/Dave McCrudy (D-OK) - 2001-20094
44. Mark Sanford (R-SC)/Sarah Palin (R-AK), Jon Huntsman (R-UT) - 2009-20135
45. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) - 2013-Current

1 - Edwin Edwards defeated Howard Baker in a landslide in 1980 after many Americans grew way too frustrated with the lack of progress in the Ford administration. Edwards faced a lot of obstacles in his administration, including corruption scandals both from his time in Louisiana governance and his time in the White House, but Edwards was wildly popular with the American public and was a very charismatic figure. He also got through signature Government programs like helping Americans with disabilities, expanding healthcare, and expanding affirmative action to the poor. Despite the FBI investigating his administration, he beat back reformist Republican George H.W. Bush in 1984 in a walk. Unfortunately for Edwards, he would have to plead guilty to racketeering in July of 1986 and resign from office.

2 - After Edwards resigned, his Vice President Jerry Brown rose to the Presidency. Brown, in his short time in office, enacted massive ethics reform in order to combat the image of President Edwards. Brown declined running in 1988 due to the Presidents toxic image, and flew the party flag around Gary Hart, whose misadventures would not be revealed until after he loses the Presidential election to George Deukmejian.

3 - Duekmejian's Presidency would go rather smoothly, as the President enacted a strongly conservative agenda to a populace that grew tired of liberal corruption. Deukmejian was easily re-elected over a ticket of Tom Harkin/Bob Kerrey. And though Danforth faced a tough match-up against Bill Clinton, Danforth would prevail after Clinton's likeness to Edwards sunk him to a narrow loss. Danforth's administration was a mess, as the moral President faced off against his far right and corrupt counterparts. Danforth felt he was losing control of his administration and demanded that Vice President Dick Cheney resigned. Cheney would resign near the end of his term, but actively pushed for someone to challenge President Danforth. Though Danforth would survive a conservative challenge, he was significantly damaged enough to lose in a narrow three-way race to Nebraska Senator and Democratic Moderate Bob Kerrey, who pledged to re-invent the Democrats as the party of ethical and fiscal responsibility.

4 - Kerrey's re-imagining of the Democratic Party into a centrist outfit proved popular with the American public, as Kerrey won a solid re-election bid against Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott. Kerrey's foreign adventurism, however, made him incredibly unpopular in the second term, and also added to a terrible economy which would sink his Vice President Dave McCrudy's bid for the office, losing to staunch conservative Mark Sanford.

5 - President Sanford proved to be a disaster. With the economy falling down, Sanford proposed a strict austerity diet for America, and when unemployment hit 10%, Democrats took over both chambers of the Government. Vice President Palin wold be forced to resign after a series of scandals plagued her from her Alaska days, and Democrats forced Sanford to go with the most moderate choice, Jon Huntsman. Sanford's divisive management style combined with cheating on his wife allowed Senator Barack Obama to win a landslide against the incumbent President.
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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2016, 10:51:20 PM »

Give 'Em Hell Harriett!

Sen. Harriett Woods (D-MO)/Sen. Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1989-1993
Fmr. Gov. Dick Thornburgh (R-PA)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1993-1997
Fmr. Pres. Harriett Woods (D-MO)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2001
Gov. George Allen (R-VA)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 2001-2009
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2016, 11:06:52 PM »

Democrats fall to Dixiecrat influence, and the rise of the Labour Party and the Constitution Preservation Party

John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Paul V. McNutt (D-IN) 1941-1945
Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John Bricker (R-OH) 1945-1953
Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (AL-NY)/Adlai Stevenson (AL-IL) 1953-1957
Estes Kefauver (D-TN)/Frank Lausche (D-OH) 1957-1963
Frank Lausche (D-OH)/None 1963-1965
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Walter Judd (R-MN) 1965-1969
Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN)/Edmund Muskie (AL-ME) 1969-1973
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Connally (R-TX) 1973-1975
John Connally (R-TX)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), Bob Dole (R-KS) 1975-1981
Harold Hughes (AL-IA)/Terry Sanford (AL-NC) 1981-1989
Terry Sanford (AL-NC)/Geraldine Ferraro (AL-NY) 1989-1993
William Weld (R-MA)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1993-2001
Joe Lieberman (AL-CT)/John Kerry (AL-MA) 2001-2007*
John Kerry (AL-MA)/Dick Gephardt (AL-MO) 2007-2009
Barack Obama (R-IL)/Dick Lugar (R-IN) 2009-2017
Hillary Rodham Weld (R-NY)/Tim Kaine (R-VA) 2017-2021

Losing Candidates
1940: Robert Taft (R-OH), Henry Wallace (AL-NY)
1944: Harold Ickes (AL-PA), John Nance Garner (D-TX)
1948: Harold Ickes (AL-PA), Richard Russell (D-GA)
1952: Robert Taft (R-OH), Strom Thurmond (D-SC)
1956: Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (AL-NY), John Dulles (R-DC)
1960: Richard Nixon (R-CA), Wayne Morse (AL-OR), Adam Parker (CP-OK)*
1964: Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN), Frank Lausche (D-OH), Bob Shaffle (CP-OR)*
1968: Richard Nixon (R-CA), George Wallace (D-AL), John Ashbrook (CP-OH)
1972: Hubert Humphrey (AL-MN), George Wallace (D-AL), Robert Welch (CP-NC)
1976: Mo Udall (AL-AZ), George Wallace (D-AL), Larry McDonald (CP-GA)
1980: Bob Dole (R-KS), Larry McDonald (CP-GA), Orval Farbus (D-AR)
1984: George H.W. Bush (R-TX), Albert Gore (D-TN), Robert Welch (CP-NC)
1988: George H.W. Bush (R-TX), Evan Mecham (D/CP-AZ)
1992: Terry Sanford (AL-NC), Jim Guy Tucker (D-AR), Ron Paul (CP-TX)
1996: George Mitchell (AL-ME), Ann Richards (D-TX), Pat Buchanan (CP-DC)
2000: Jack Kemp (R-NY), Fob James (D-AL), Pat Buchanan (CP-DC)
2004: Tom Ridge (R-PA), Mike Huckabee (D-AR), Michael Perotuksa (CP-MD)
2008: John Kerry (AL-MA), Haley Barbour (D-MS), Ron Paul (CP-TX)
2012: Evan Bayh (AL-IN), Ron Paul (CP-TX), Haley Barbour (D-MS)
2016: Donald Trump (AL/D-NY), Ted Cruz (CP-TX)

The American world changed when FDR decided to retire at the end of his second term. Henry Wallace, with FDR's tacit endorsement, gained 20% of the vote - very impressive. This began the American Labor Party. Which has now become America's second major party.

It wasn't until after Thomas Dewey's two successful terms as President did the Labor Party have its very first successful election of a President in President Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr.. FDR JR. was far from his father, and he proved not very hard working as President, and was booted out by America's next to last Democratic President in Estes Kefauver. Kefauver's administration was troubled with problems, but managed continually narrow victories over the competition until Kefauvers death in 1963. Frank Lausche, known as "Frank the fence", rubbed just about everyone the wrong way, and just about ended the Democratic Party as a non-southern institution.

In 1968, the AL had its second success when it elected Hubert Humphrey President. Humphrey prompted a wide array of social programs, but Former President Nixon successfully portrayed Humphrey as spending this country into debt, and ran him out of office with a coalition of Republicans, and Southern Democrats turned off by George Wallace's outright racist campaign. Despite being given a golden goose in 1976, American Labor lost to President John Connally by nominating Mo Udall, a liberal but dividing figure. It wasn't until the American Labor Party nominated Harold Hughes, Senator of Iowa and a stern but imposing figure, that they got their first two term President.

The Hughes administration was noted for its prosperity, and cruised to re-election over George H.W. Bush (albeit, a slightly smaller margin than in 1980). American Labor even got a third run through with Terry Sanford. But Sanford's age became a factor, and combined with his forgotten promise to lower taxes for the middle class, he finally lost to Republican William Weld.

The American Labor Party spent a lot of time re-thinking its strategy. They had devastating losses under George Mitchell's leadership. They needed a new way to appeal to voters. They settled on a more moderate message, under a more moderate, calmer candidate. Joseph Lieberman promoted a new message for the party. Lieberman scored a surprise victory over Vice President Jack Kemp in the year 2000, and scored a slightly less narrow victory over the uninspiring Tom Ridge.

But Lieberman's administration did not go well - Lieberman was a war hawk, and pledged to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. His party tried to stand by but simply could not. After about 5 years, President Lieberman started feeling the burn of being President, and resigned. This left John Kerry in charge. Kerry agreed more with the party's philosphy, but Kerry proved to be in over his head, leading him to be easily defeated by moderate Senator Barack Obama.

Obama had staged an impressive victory over Conservative warrior (in slight contrast to her husbands moderate administration) and former first lady Hillary Rodham Weld. They made a pact that after two terms of Obama, two more terms of Weld would arise. American Labor attempted to counteract the charismatic, telegenic, and well-spoken advocate for Republican values in Obama, but fell short with Indiana Governor Evan Bayh, a fierce advocate for workers but otherwise a moderate presence in the party.

After 8 more years in the whole, the party went a lot more... radical. American Labor always had more radical voices - Ross Perot almost won the parties nomination over Terry Sanford in 1992, and gave George Mitchell a solid run for his money in 1996. But in 2016, many were tired of the same old voices. Former Governor Katrina Swett of New Hampshire was considered the frontrunner, but she was dealt with accusations of being a Lieberman-ite - which she didn't really address head on. It took Businessman Donald Trump, a Former Republican, Democrat, CP, all of the above, the knock her out. And boy did he - Trump not only won the Labor nomination, but also the Democratic nomination, opening up the vast wealth of the south.

But Trump proved to be very provacative on the campaign trail. While many American Laborites, like Richard Trumka, stood by the nominee proudly, others, like Swett, Chris Van Hollen, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and others, backed away from Trump, some even backing the conservative but manageable Hillary Weld.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2016, 08:54:25 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2016, 02:05:41 PM by Maxwell »

45. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-2021
46. Michael Flynn (R-RI)/Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 2021-2025
47. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Jason Kander (D-MO)- 2025-2033
48. Jason Kander (D-MO)/Erica Garcia (D-FL) - 2033-2037
49. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Elise Stefanik (R-NY) - 2037-Current

Losting tickets
2016 - Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
2020 - President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA)
2024 - President Michael Flynn (R-RI)/Vice President Marco Rubio (R-FL)
2028 - Governor Ro Khanna (R-CA)/Senator Scott Pruitt (R-OK)
2032 - Governor George P. Bush (R-TX)/Governor Moore Capito (R-WV)
2036 - President Jason Kander (D-MO)/Vice President Erica Garcia (D-NV)
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2016, 09:28:56 PM »

that's right he's german doy

replace that for a weirdo passive aggressive silicon valley guy.
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2016, 09:52:30 PM »

47. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Jason Kander (D-MO)- 2025-2033

Losting tickets
2024 - President Michael Flynn (R-RI)/Vice President Marco Rubio (R-FL)

Oh boy, 2024 would be a rout:



Switch Montana and Texas and you got the map I made up for that year.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2016, 10:21:11 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2016, 10:22:57 PM by Maxwell »

Okay so changes I made -

Peter Thiel is replaced by Ro Khanna. After winning three terms as congressman with a blue dog record, Khanna decides to run for Governor of California as a Republican. With the full backing of the Republicans as well as a tight fundraising infrastructure in his home of Silicon Valley, he beats regular conservative Republican Some Dude with some Name, and heads  to a run-off with Gavin Newsom where Khanna wins in a stunner.

Kihuen is replaced by Erica Garcia is a fictional character who replaces Bill Nelson as Senator of Florida.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2017, 06:54:38 PM »
« Edited: January 03, 2017, 08:07:37 PM by Speaker Maxwell »

RIP Ronald

Presidents
40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 1981-1981
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 1981-1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) - 1989-1997
43. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1997-2001
44. John McCain (R-AZ) - 2001-2005
45. John Edwards (D-NC) - 2005-2009
46. Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 2009-2017
47. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) - 2017-Continuing

Vice Presidents
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 1981-1981
42. Howard Baker (R-TN) - 1982-1989
43. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 1989-1997
44. John Kerry (D-MA) - 1997-2001
45. George Allen (R-VA) - 2001-2005
46. William Cohen (D-ME) - 2005-2009
47. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 2009-2017
48. Barack Obama (D-IL) - 2017- Continuing

Losing Tickets
1984 - Jesse Jackson/Bernie Sanders
1988 - Jack Kemp/Bob Dole
1992 - Jeanne Kirkpatrick/Dan Quayle
1996 - George W. Bush/Dick Cheney
2000 - Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004 - John McCain/George Allen
2008 - John Edwards/William Cohen
2012 - Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh
2016 - W. Mitt Romney/John Kasich

Bush 41 -> In his first term, Bush promised to honor Ronald Reagan's legacy by holding on to his team and passing his agenda. This meant massive tax cuts and strengthening on the military. Democrats had little chance of beating Bush, so the bench was thin, allowing Jesse Jackson to rise through the ranks. Jackson trailed in the polls, often by as much as 50 points, and lost in a sizable margin. But that was the end of Bush's luck - Bush decided to shuffle the deck after a landslide re-election, and by the end of the Bush term his approval ratings hovered at around 30%, thanks to several economic shocks and scandal in his administration. Republicans would lose that year even as an Anti-Bush candidate, Jack Kemp, took the reigns

Cuomo -> Groomed for success, he won a sizable margin in his first election and an even more sizable one in his re-election. Despite this, Cuomo faced difficulties throughout his term, including dealing with a sizable Republican congress by 1994. Still, Cuomo was regarded as a fairly progressive President, halting the downward movement on taxes, expanding healthcare access, and rejecting the "New Democrat" label. His successor, however, would change that.

Clinton -> Clinton was Cuomo's antagonistic Vice President, always distancing himself upon Cuomo's unpopular decisions. In Clinton's fight for the nomination, Cuomo personally favored Bill Bradley over Clinton or Wellstone, the other major contender, but Bradley gained 0 traction. Clinton would end up the nominee with Cuomo's apathetic blessing, and win a narrow election despite a thriving economy in 1996. Clinton himself would prove rather popular most of his term thanks to his New Democrat centrism, and McCain trailed most of the 2000 election by 10+ points, but Clinton's issues with women came out and the dot com bubble burst, causing Clinton's numbers to fall in a tailspin.

McCain -> McCain ran as a reform-minded candidate, and planned on governing that way. As a result, he managed to piss off both the party establishment of the Republicans and the Democrats. He called for an end to pork barrell spending, the invasion of Iraq, and a balanced budget. McCain angered his party the most when he vetoed a major tax cut on the grounds that it would send the budget out of balance. McCain, with an apathetic Republican base, went into re-election facing tough odds, but did win public credit for his response to 9/11 and his honest approach to the White House. That would not be enough to overcome the Democrats massive spending and their handsome, populist candidate John Edwards.

Edwards -> The less said about President Edwards, the better.

Bush 46 -> Part of the reason Bush Jr. failed was because he wasn't reform minded. Part of the reason why H.W. Bush had a tough Presidency was because he wasn't trusted by rank and file Republicans. Jeb Bush was both. He promised a wide array of new conservative reforms that were widely popular among Republicans and some became popular in the public eye. He faced fierce opposition from Democrats, and indeed, Democrats made unprecedented gains during the Bush years, making him the first Republican President since his father to face Democrats controlling both houses of congress. Despite Bush's policy expertise, he would be laughed at by comics for how easy it is to flap him, and Bush's push for conservative policy would sow the seeds of discontent and anger among liberal activists, who would strike and strike hard in 2016 after years and years of "New Democrat" ideals. Bernie Sanders defeated Bush buddy W. Mitt Romney in 2016 despite many viewing Sanders as a radical, AND despite Bush himself generally having pretty high approval ratings.
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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2017, 04:07:14 PM »

List of Presidents
33. Henry Wallace (D-NY) - 1945-1949
34. Robert Taft (R-OH) - 1949-1953
35. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) - 1953-1961
36. Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 1961-1969
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 1969-1973
38. Mark Hatfield (R-OR) - 1973-1981
39. Jerry Brown (D-CA) - 1981-1989
40. John Glenn (D-OH) - 1989-1993
41. H. Ross Perot (R-TX) - 1993-2001
42. Douglas Wilder (D-VA) - 2001-2007
43. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2007-2009
44. Melissa Hart (R-PA) - 2009-2017
45. Ben Jealous (D-MD) - 2017-2021
46. Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 2021-2025
47. Ben Jealous (D-MD) - 2025-2029
48. Jack Stevens* (R-OH) - 2029-2037

List of Vice Presidents
34. Harold Ickes (D-PA) - 1945-1949
35. Joseph Martin (R-MA) - 1949-1953
36. Robert Kerr (D-OK) - 1953-1961
37. Henry Cabot Lodge (D-MA) - 1961-1969
38. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - 1969-1973
39. Howard Baker (R-TN) - 1973-1981
40. John Glenn (D-OH) -1981-1989
41. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1989-1993
42. Trent Lott (R-MS) - 1993-2001
43. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 2001-2007
44. Skip Humphrey (D-MN) - 2008-2009
45. J.C. Watts (R-OK) - 2009-2017
46. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-2021
47. Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 2021-2025
48. John Chisholm (D-WI) - 2025-2029
49. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) - 2029-2037
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2017, 10:19:55 PM »

List of Presidents
37. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 1969-1973
38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 1973-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - 1981-1981
40. Lloyd Bentesen (D-TX) - 1981-1989
41. Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 1989-1993
42. Kit Bond (R-MO) - 1993-2001
43. Bill Clinton (D-AR) - 2001-2009
44. Michael Steele (R-MD) - 2009-2017
45. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 2017-Onwards

List of Vice Presidents
39. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - 1969-1973
40. Charles Percy (R-IL) - 1973-1981
41. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) - 1981-1981
42. Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 1982-1989
43. Al Gore (D-TN) - 1989-1993
44. Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 1993-2001
45. John Kerry (D-MA) - 2001-2009
46. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 2009-2017
47. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-Onwards

Defeated Tickets
1968 - Nixon/Agnew, Wallace/LeMay
1972 - Humphrey/Muskie
1976 - Udall/Carter
1980 - Percy/Dole
1984 - Crane/Kassebaum
1988 - Deukmejian/Quayle
1992 - Mondale/Gore, Trump/Stockdale
1996 - Mitchell/Blanchard
2000 - McCain/Dole
2004 - Allen/Frist
2008 - Kerry/Edwards (no, srsly)
2012 - Obama/Bayh
2016 - Romney/Ryan
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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2017, 06:58:16 PM »

did the right just never rise in America?
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2017, 05:06:07 PM »

THE AMERICAN PARTY SYSTEM CHANGES FOREVER

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democrat-NY) - 1933-1937
33. Huey Long (Share Our Wealth-LA) - 1937-1940
34. Burton Wheeler (Share Our Wealth-MT) - 1940-1941
35. Wendell Willkie (Republican-IN) - 1941-1945
35 (c). Wendell Willkie (Liberal-IN) - 1945-1949
36. George Marshall (Independent Conservative-PA) - 1949-1957
37. Estes Kefauver (Share Our Wealth-TN) - 1957-1963
38. Claude Pepper (Share Our Wealth-FL) - 1963-1965
39. Richard Nixon (Independent Conservative-CA) - 1965-1973
40. Henry Cabot Lodge (Independent Conservative-MA) - 1973-1977
41. Ronald Reagan (Labor-CA) - 1977-1989
42. Jimmy Carter (Labor-GA) - 1989-1993
43. Newt Gingrich (Progressive Conservative-GA) - 1993-2001
44. Bill Clinton (Labor-AR) - 2001-2007
45. Jeanne Shaheen (Labor-NH) - 2007-2009
46. W. Mitt Romney (Progressive Conservative-MA) - 2009-2017
47. Bernie Sanders (New Share Our Wealth-VT) - 2017-Onwards
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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2017, 12:27:45 PM »

26. Teddy Roosevelt (Republican-NY) - 1901-1909
27. William Taft (Republican-OH) - 1909-1913
28. Teddy Roosevelt (Bull Moose-NY) - 1913-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (Bull Moose-CA) - 1919-1921
30. Thomas Marshall (Democrat-IN) - 1921-1925
31. Cordell Hull (Democrat-TN) - 1925-1929
32. William McAdoo (Democrat-CA) - 1929-1933
33. Frank Lowden (Bull Moose-IL) - 1933-1937
34. Huey Long (Share Our Wealth-LA) - 1937-1938
35. Burton Wheeler (Share Our Wealth-MT) - 1938-1941
36. Fiorello La Guardia (Bull Moose-NY) - 1941-1947
37. Earl Warren (Bull Moose-CA) - 1947-1961
38. Hubert Humphrey (Share Our Wealth-MN) - 1961-1965
39. Nelson Rockefeller (Bull Moose-NY) - 1965-1969
40. George Meany (Share Our Wealth-NY) - 1969-1977
41. Richard Schweiker (Bull Moose-PA) - 1977-1981
42. James P. Hoffa (Share Our Wealth-MI) - 1981-1989
43. Albert Brewer (Share Our Wealth-AL) - 1989-1993
44. Lamar Alexander (Bull Moose-TN) - 1993-2001
45. Paul Wellstone (Share Our Wealth-MN) - 2001-2004
46. Martha Stanley (Share Our Wealth-NC) - 2004-2009
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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2017, 10:28:34 PM »
« Edited: April 01, 2017, 11:08:27 PM by Maxwell »

List of U.S. Presidents
25. William McKinley (R-OH) - 1897-1905
26. Charles Fairbanks (R-IN) - 1905-1909
27. William Randolph Hearst (D-NY) - 1909-1913
28. Eugene Debs (S-IN) - 1913-1916

DEMOCRACY ENDS, DEBS ASSASSINATED

List of Supreme Generals of the USA
1. Leonard Wood (I-MA) - 1916-1927
2. A. Mitchell Palmer (I-PA)* - 1927-1931
3. George Marshall (I-PA) - 1931-1947*

*Palmer was assassinated under mysterious circumstances
*After the end of World War II, Supreme General George Marshall plans for a responsible return to Democracy. In 1947, the public officially approves the Republic in a referendum with 64% public support, with some more prominent members of the Marshall Collective campaigning against it.

MARSHALL ESTABLISHES DEMOCRACY AGAIN

List of Presidents of the United States Republic
1. George Marshall (Conservative-PA) - 1947-1959*
2. Lemuel Shepard (Conservative-VA) - 1959-1961*
3. William Knowland (Conservative-CA) - 1961-1967*
4. Hubert Humphrey (Labour-MN) - 1967-1979*
5. John Connally (Conservative-TX) - 1979-1985
6. Jerry Brown (Labour-CA) - 1985-2003
7. John Kerry (Labour-MA) - 2003-2009
8. Jim Webb (Conservative-VA) - 2009-Today


*Presidents have six year terms. Marshall was elected in 1948, then again in 1954, but died in 1959, failing to serve out his term.
*Lemuel Shepard was appointed Vice President, and then managed his way to President. He would be the last of the old military council to make the Presidency.
*Bill Knowland is the first purely political figure to reach the White House since Eugene Debs. Knowland was known as an arch-conservative, and took measures to further "streamline" the federal government. Marshall was known for his pragmatic approach and his expanding of the tax footprint, Knowland fought to make major reductions. Knowland proved widely unpopular and had coasted on the good will of the Conservative Party, and he would lose in a blowout to Labor Leader Hubert Humphrey.
*Humphrey ran his first campaign as a very young man against George Marshall. Thinking no one could beat Marshall, Marshall ran a very lazy campaign in 1954, but Humphrey surprised everyone but holding Marshall under 50%, causing a run-off, where Marshall defeated Humphrey in a blowout. Humphrey gained good will in his party, and grew his footprint. Humphrey would bow out in 1960, allowing more moderate, more southern members of the party to take the swing. Humphrey plotted - his time was in 1966. Sure enough, 1966 sent Labour to strong majorities in the House of Representatives, and gained them the Presidency - leaving them only behind in the Military Senate, which was built sort of like the House of Lords. Humphrey proved to be a wild reformer in office, pushing through pro-unionization members, new government programs, ect. Humphrey proved to be the gold age of socialism in America. He surprised everyone by winning by a wide margin in 1972, even as a few of his foreign policy positions proved unpopular. Humphrey started to stale with voters in 1978 though, as the world economy was beginning to face dire straits, and Humphrey abandoned the chance to run for a third term.

1948 (First Round) - 72% Marshall (Conservative), 28% Others
1954 (First Round) - 47% Marshall (Conservative), 33% Humphrey (Labour), 10% Bricker (Isolationist), 10% Others
1954 (Second Round) - 57% Marshall (Conservative), 43% Humphrey (Labour)
1960 (First Round) - 39% Knowland (Conservative), 29% Kefauver (Labour), 15% Rockefeller (Independent), 10% Meany (Far Left), 7% Others
1960 (Second Round) - 52% Knowland (Conservative), 48% Kefauver (Labour)
1966 (First Round) - 47% Humphrey (Labour), 29% Knowland (Conservative), 16% Wallace (American Independent), 8% Others
1966 (Second Round) - 59% Humphrey (Labour), 41% Knowland (Conservative)
1972 (First Round) - 43% Humphrey (Labour), 32% Connally (Conservative), 13% Rockefeller (Liberal), 6% Schmitz (American Independent), 6% Others
1972 (Second Round) - 57% Humphrey (Labour), 43% Connally (Conservative)
1978 (First Round) - 37% Connally (Conservative), 36% McGovern (Labour), 20% Anderson (Liberal), 7% Others
1978 (Second Round) - 53% Connally (Conservative), 47% McGovern (Labour)
1984 (First Round) - 44% Brown (Labour), 35% Connally (Conservative), 15% Mathias (Liberal), 6% Others
1984 (Second Round) - 55% Brown (Labour), 45% Connally (Conservative)
1990 (First Round) - 39% Brown (Labour), 31% Bush (Conservative), 24% Perot (Reform), 3% Simon (Liberal), 3% Others
1990 (Second Round) - 54% Brown (Labour), 46% Bush (Conservative)
1996 (First Round) - 45% Brown (Labour), 28% (D) Trump (Reform), 24% Dole (Conservative), 3% Baker (Liberal), 4% Others
1996 (Second Round) - 68% Brown (Labour), 32% (D) Trump (Reform)
2002 (First Round) - 42% McCain (Conservative), 40% Kerry (Labour), 16% (D) Trump (Reform), 2% Others
2002 (Second Round) - 51% Kerry (Labour), 49% McCain (Conservative)
2008 (First Round) - 41% Webb (Conservative), 35% Kerry (Labour), 12% Ventura (Reform), 9% Bloomberg (Liberal), 3% Others
2008 (Second Round) - 54% Webb (Conservative), 46% Kerry (Labour)
2014 (First Round) - 39% Webb (Conservative), 38% Sanders (Labour), 18% Bloomberg (Liberal), 5% Others
2014 (Second Round) - 52% Webb (Conservative), 48% Sanders (Labour)
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« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2017, 07:54:23 PM »

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) - 1974-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - 1981-1985
40. Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 1985-1993
41. H. Ross Perot (I-TX) - 1993-1997
42. Ann Richards (D-TX) - 1997-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ) - 2005-2009
44. Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 2009-2013
45. Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 2013-2016
46. Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 2016-2017
47. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) - 2017-2025
48. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2025-2029
49. Ivanka Trump (R-NY) - 2029-Onwards

Vice Presidents
41. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) - 1974-1977
42. Robert Dole (R-KS) - 1977-1981
43. Dale Bumpers (D-AR) - 1981-1985
44. Howard Baker (R-TN) - 1985-1993
45. James Stockdale (I-IL) - 1993-1997
46. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 1997-2005
47. George Allen (R-VA) - 2005-2009
48. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) - 2009-2013
49. Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 2013-2016
50. Colin Powell (I-NY) - 2017-2017
51. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 2017-2025
52. Keith Ellison (D-MN) - 2025-2029
53. Luther Strange (R-AL) - 2029-Onwards

Losing Tickets
1976 - Udall/Brown
1980 - Dole/Crane
1984 - Kennedy/Bumpers
1988 - Cuomo/Gore
1992 - Quayle/Kirkpatrick, Tsongas/Gephardt
1996 - Perot/Stockdale, Alexander/Rumsfeld
2000 - McCain/Johnson, Trump/Ventura
2004 - Biden/Edwards
2008 - McCain/Allen
2012 - Bayh/Sebelius
2016 - Romney/Scott
2020 - Pence/Lee
2024 - Holcomb/Heller
2028 - Kaine/Ellison
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