OK legislature rejects bill that bans corporal punishment on disabled students

[OSR stands with Israel]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

[OSR stands with Israel]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

I'm not arguing the semantics of what is abuse or not. I'm saying that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment have clear negative effects on children and should be discouraged and/or banned. The bolded section is a cop-out and a terrible argument. What actual hard evidence do you have that this punishment that research consistently shows is harmful is good in some cases? What evidence do you have that the average parent who thinks spanking works can distinguish between these cases and the vast majority of cases where it is harmful.

[Ferguson97]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

Why is it abusive to slap your child in the face, but not abusive to slap them on the bottom? Drawing a distinction between the two makes absolutely no sense.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

Why is it abusive to slap your child in the face, but not abusive to slap them on the bottom? Drawing a distinction between the two makes absolutely no sense.

It depends on how hard the spank is , and no parents who spank should not have their kids taken away from them .

Saying so is peak Whiteness actually 

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Lets not retread the "should spanking result in children being taken away" debate.

[Ferguson97]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

Why is it abusive to slap your child in the face, but not abusive to slap them on the bottom? Drawing a distinction between the two makes absolutely no sense.

It depends on how hard the spank is , and no parents who spank should not have their kids taken away from them .

Saying so is peak Whiteness actually 

You haven't explained why spanking is different from a slap in the face. You just keep saying that it is different.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

I'm not arguing the semantics of what is abuse or not. I'm saying that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment have clear negative effects on children and should be discouraged and/or banned. The bolded section is a cop-out and a terrible argument. What actual hard evidence do you have that this punishment that research consistently shows is harmful is good in some cases? What evidence do you have that the average parent who thinks spanking works can distinguish between these cases and the vast majority of cases where it is harmful.

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

[Ferguson97]

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Dumb comparison. One is a self-destructive behavior, the other is causing harm to another person.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Dumb comparison. One is a self-destructive behavior, the other is causing harm to another person.

Anyway collective research to use at the individual level is stupid . Just cause it doesn’t benefit most does not mean it does not benefit anybody .

Anyway most of these research conclusions when applied in the real world end up failing miserably so no it should not be implemented .

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If you are going to prohibit any kid with a disability from corporal punishment, just get rid of it altogether. The most difficult kids in any school usually could be diagnosed with some learning, emotional, and/or executive function disability if they aren't diagnosed already.

[Ferguson97]

Anyway collective research to use at the individual level is stupid . Just cause it doesn’t benefit most does not mean it does not benefit anybody.

Abuse benefits nobody.

Anyway most of these research conclusions when applied in the real world end up failing miserably so no it should not be implemented .

This is nonsensical.

What you're essentially doing is the classic "my parents did x and I turned out fine!" defense, which is not an actual argument.

If you are going to prohibit any kid with a disability from corporal punishment, just get rid of it altogether.

Completely agree!

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyway collective research to use at the individual level is stupid . Just cause it doesn’t benefit most does not mean it does not benefit anybody.

Abuse benefits nobody.

Anyway most of these research conclusions when applied in the real world end up failing miserably so no it should not be implemented .

This is nonsensical.

What you're essentially doing is the classic "my parents did x and I turned out fine!" defense, which is not an actual argument.

If you are going to prohibit any kid with a disability from corporal punishment, just get rid of it altogether.

Completely agree!

1. It is not abuse . Like I said saying so is peak whiteness .

2. Actually my parents barely used  it , but my friends parents did use it and no their parents should not have been taken from them .

[Ferguson97]

1. It is not abuse . Like I said saying so is peak whiteness .

2. Actually my parents barely used  it , but my friends parents did use it and no their parents should not have been taken from them .

Explain how it is abusive to slap a child in the face, but not on the bottom. You still haven't done this.

[OSR stands with Israel]

1. It is not abuse . Like I said saying so is peak whiteness .

2. Actually my parents barely used  it , but my friends parents did use it and no their parents should not have been taken from them .

Explain how it is abusive to slap a child in the face, but not on the bottom. You still haven't done this.

Cause the risk of long term physical  damage is higher with a slap to the face and that’s how it should be decided whether it’s abusive or not .

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Parents should have the right to use some form of corporal punishment but schools absolutely should not .

I don't think parents should have the right to practice a type of punishment that has been shown by lots of research to be harmful long-term to the children subjected to it

Spanking isn’t abuse and also research doesn’t mean correct for every individual person . Certain things are abuse but spanking is definitely not 

I'm not arguing the semantics of what is abuse or not. I'm saying that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment have clear negative effects on children and should be discouraged and/or banned. The bolded section is a cop-out and a terrible argument. What actual hard evidence do you have that this punishment that research consistently shows is harmful is good in some cases? What evidence do you have that the average parent who thinks spanking works can distinguish between these cases and the vast majority of cases where it is harmful.

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Eating junk food isn't traumatic and is only damaging when consumed in excess. These are fundamentally different categories. I get that you love your parents and don't want to admit that something they did was harmful, but that doesn't change the facts. Spanking is harmful, period. There is no real evidence suggesting that it's helpful under any circumstances.

I'm personally not in favor of taking away children because their parents spanked them once or twice FTR.

[Wrong about 2024 Ghost]

Lets not retread the "should spanking result in children being taken away" debate.

The GOP needs something to distract from "Republicans just voted in favor of beating disabled kids".

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Lets not retread the "should spanking result in children being taken away" debate.

The GOP needs something to distract from "Republicans just voted in favor of beating disabled kids".

Ferguson is the main culprit for this retreading happening.

[DaleCooper]

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Dumb comparison. One is a self-destructive behavior, the other is causing harm to another person.

Feeding your child junk food is causing harm to another person, lmao. Definitely way more inexcusable than corporal punishment.

[Sic Semper Tyrannis]

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Dumb comparison. One is a self-destructive behavior, the other is causing harm to another person.

Feeding your child junk food is causing harm to another person, lmao. Definitely way more inexcusable than corporal punishment.

You know you hate fat people when you think giving a kid a potato chip is worse than punching them in the face.

[Zohranism is OUR future]

I do believe that corporal punishment does have a theoretical niche but only at a very certain age range. Old enough that immediate consequences can be somewhat understood but too young for the consequences of taking privileges away to be understood (the difference between an immediate and not immediate consequence) My parents did spank me a couple times in that range…and I actually turned out pretty meh but that’s my own issue lmao. Either way, it has its purposes but they mostly are theoretical and could be swapped for something else in 99/100 cases.

[DaleCooper]

Research also shows eating junk food  is bad for you . Should it be banned then

Dumb comparison. One is a self-destructive behavior, the other is causing harm to another person.

Feeding your child junk food is causing harm to another person, lmao. Definitely way more inexcusable than corporal punishment.

You know you hate fat people when you think giving a kid a potato chip is worse than punching them in the face.

You know you're full of sh-t when you falsely accuse someone of thinking that giving a kid a potato chip is worse than punching them in the face.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Discipline is good, but it shouldn't be misused. Think of it like antibiotics, if used sparingly and only in rare situations is it effective. Otherwise, the whole principle is useless, painful, and constantly doing it will actually make the mindset of the child worse off. Then they will only comply out of fear of being hurt rather than learning WHY their actions are wrong and not acceptable.

[Drop Billionaires, Not Bombs]

Corporal punishment doesn't work. Look what it did to Albert Fish.