OK legislature rejects bill that bans corporal punishment on disabled students

[Landslide Lyndon]

F**k yeah! Another WOKE bill goes down in flames.

(FTR, the bill needed an absolute majority of 51 votes to advance)

https://twitter.com/tylertalley22/status/1635662098465431553

[Orwell]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

[Ferguson97]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

Why do want to abuse children?

[Orwell]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

Why do want to abuse children?

It’s not abuse, sometimes a kid needs be paddled especially the problem cases.

[Ferguson97]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

Why do want to abuse children?

It’s not abuse, sometimes a kid needs be paddled especially the problem cases.

This is not an argument that it's not abusive.

Using physical harm as a form of discipline on a child is always abusive. 100% of the time.

[President Johnson]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

Why do want to abuse children?

It’s not abuse, sometimes a kid needs be paddled especially the problem cases.

This is not an argument that it's not abusive.

Using physical harm as a form of discipline on a child is always abusive. 100% of the time.

Agreed. People that use violence ran out of arguments.

[jojoju1998]

Corporal Punishment doesn't work. Believe me. All it does, is just teaches the child that violence is acceptable.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Corporal Punishment doesn't work. Believe me. All it does, is just teaches the child that violence is acceptable.

In addition, there have been studies which show that the lesson children learn from corporal punishment is not "don't misbehave" but "don't get caught". Same with scared-straight programs, which is why both these approaches have fallen out of favor.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

When you hear that corporal punishment was widely accepted before the evil liberals attacked, be skeptical. A boy was ruler'd at my mum's primary school in the 60s and his father responded by approaching the perp at parents' evening and punching him in the face.

To my mum's knowledge, the school never retaliated. It had exchanged discipline for violence and found that its staff, being teachers, couldn't establish a monopoly on that. I wouldn't be surprised if stories like these were more common than often reported, precisely because schools were too embarrassed to raise complaints.

[jojoju1998]

Corporal Punishment doesn't work. Believe me. All it does, is just teaches the child that violence is acceptable.

In addition, there have been studies which show that the lesson children learn from corporal punishment is not "don't misbehave" but "don't get caught". Same with scared-straight programs, which is why both these approaches have fallen out of favor.

I also have personal experience.....

[Darthpi - Crush the Oligarchy]

That seems like something that should have been banned like 60 years ago.

[You are responsible]

As usual, the Democrats are being soft on the disableds.

[Utilitarian Governance]

F**k yeah! Another WOKE bill goes down in flames.

Corporal punishment is a barbaric form of discipline and legally speaking is in a gray area but I don't think anyone who voted against it did so because of "wokeness" or to own the libs.

[Comrade Luanne Platter]

We need to bring back corporal punishment for all students, not just the disabled.

Why do want to abuse children?

It’s not abuse, sometimes a kid needs be paddled especially the problem cases.

There isn't a drop of legitimate, substantial research to back that up; but there's a plethora of early-childhood research saying the opposite.

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

The fact this abuse is legal against any children for any reason anywhere in this country is staggering.

[MasterJedi]

Conservatives get off on hurting kids, we already knew this.

[lfromnj]

When you hear that corporal punishment was widely accepted before the evil liberals attacked, be skeptical. A boy was ruler'd at my mum's primary school in the 60s and his father responded by approaching the perp at parents' evening and punching him in the face.

To my mum's knowledge, the school never retaliated. It had exchanged discipline for violence and found that its staff, being teachers, couldn't establish a monopoly on that. I wouldn't be surprised if stories like these were more common than often reported, precisely because schools were too embarrassed to raise complaints.

FYI american school corporal punishment requires parental permission.

[Sir Mohamed]

What is this? The 19th century or something?

[Damocles]

Speaking as a neurodivergent person, this move by the OK legislature is barbaric. We're already seen as "problem children" in a society which refuses to recognize our perspectives or our humanity in many cases. We aren't "broken", we aren't "legal meth-heads", and we most certainly aren't "less-than." The members of this legislature ought to be ashamed of themselves, especially considering that some of their own children may well be neurodivergent themselves.

[Migrant Crime]

A lot of young adults in America were in desperate need of corporal punishment as a child but didn't receive it.  Just look at the state of this country.

[Stranger in a strange land]

A lot of young adults in America were in desperate need of corporal punishment as a child but didn't receive it.  Just look at the state of this country.

A lot of them DID receive it and grew up to be violent and abusive. I agree that over-indulgent and overprotective approaches towards children are big problems that have gotten worse in the last 20 years, but lack of corporal punishment isn't the reason. This is the equivalent of people saying that school shootings would stop if we went back to making kids say the Lord's Prayer in public schools each morning.

[Migrant Crime]

A lot of young adults in America were in desperate need of corporal punishment as a child but didn't receive it.  Just look at the state of this country.

A lot of them DID receive it and grew up to be violent and abusive. I agree that over-indulgent and overprotective approaches towards children are big problems that have gotten worse in the last 20 years, but lack of corporal punishment isn't the reason. This is the equivalent of people saying that school shootings would stop if we went back to making kids say the Lord's Prayer in public schools each morning.

1. The people I'm thinking of certainly did not receive corporal punishment as a kid.
2. I guarantee you we would see less school shootings if school prayer was still a thing.  The violence and degeneracy of our current society is a result of loss of religion.

[Ferguson97]

This is the equivalent of people saying that school shootings would stop if we went back to making kids say the Lord's Prayer in public schools each morning.

Funnily enough Eric Adams basically said this lol

[Stranger in a strange land]

A lot of young adults in America were in desperate need of corporal punishment as a child but didn't receive it.  Just look at the state of this country.

A lot of them DID receive it and grew up to be violent and abusive. I agree that over-indulgent and overprotective approaches towards children are big problems that have gotten worse in the last 20 years, but lack of corporal punishment isn't the reason. This is the equivalent of people saying that school shootings would stop if we went back to making kids say the Lord's Prayer in public schools each morning.

1. The people I'm thinking of certainly did not receive corporal punishment as a kid.
2. I guarantee you we would see less school shootings if school prayer was still a thing.  The violence and degeneracy of our current society is a result of loss of religion.

I went to a private religious middle school where we said the Lord's Prayer each day and attended weekly chapel services. The kids there were, if anything, more violent and degenerate than the kids I went to public high school with.

Also, school-led prayer was declared unconstitutional in the 1962, with the Engel v Vitale SCOTUS ruling, and school shootings didn't become common until the late 90s. Why did this take nearly 30 years to happen?

[MasterJedi]

A lot of young adults in America were in desperate need of corporal punishment as a child but didn't receive it.  Just look at the state of this country.

The rudest people I deal with on a daily bases, and it's usually their fault for why things went wrong by ignoring notices we send for years, are boomers and gen x, those that most certainly been subjected to corporal punishment. That's part of why they're so angry all the time.