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« on: March 14, 2023, 05:49:10 PM »
« edited: March 18, 2023, 03:00:05 PM by TheReckoning »

I’d say no. We always hear about different legal trouble Trump is in, but it never goes anywhere.
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2023, 05:52:26 PM »

No. It's not in the national interest.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2023, 06:40:32 PM »

No, even if he is found guilty in a court of law. He will, at worst, be placed under house arrest.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2023, 06:42:59 PM »


No. He will appeal appeal appeal until he dies.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2023, 07:31:52 PM »

Yes. He's probably getting indicted either tomorrow or Monday. Even if you think the NY case is small potatoes, the Georgia and Special Counsel probes are more dicey for him.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2023, 07:47:29 PM »

Even with a criminal conviction, I doubt that he ever sees the inside of a BOP or state-level facility since the Secret Service isn't gonna like that, so it's house arrest & probation at worst.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2023, 08:01:57 PM »

It won't matter he was impeached and he won't beat Biden and might lose to DeSantis
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2023, 04:20:08 AM »

No, even if he is found guilty in a court of law. He will, at worst, be placed under house arrest.

At most he'd face some financial penalties that he'd never pay and that's about it.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2023, 04:28:50 AM »

No, he'll probably die in his 90s in his megamansion after having a full life of being a billionaire playboy president.
Lol cope
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2023, 07:38:25 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2023, 10:11:46 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2023, 10:17:43 AM »

Certainly not. Not just "probably not". I've long written that possibility off, although he 100% deserves some prison time after attempting a coup.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2023, 10:18:44 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2023, 10:21:38 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

The question is whether public support should even matter. I don't think so. There should be clean investigations and fair trials, no matter whether the suspect or offender is some John Smith from next door or a former POTUS. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men (to quote Jerry Ford).
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2023, 10:27:35 AM »

No.  Whatever you think of Trump, this isn't worth a civil war.   
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2023, 10:28:36 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

The question is whether public support should even matter. I don't think so. There should be clean investigations and fair trials, no matter whether the suspect or offender is some John Smith from next door or a former POTUS. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men (to quote Jerry Ford).

I understand your position, but the preservation of the union should supersede this.  Is Trump guilty of crimes that could send him to prison?  Quite possibly.  Is it in the nation’s best interest to have him in prison?  No.  It would just cement existing political divides and normalize Republican calls of imprisoning political opponents for bogus reasons.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2023, 10:33:09 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

The question is whether public support should even matter. I don't think so. There should be clean investigations and fair trials, no matter whether the suspect or offender is some John Smith from next door or a former POTUS. We're supposed to be a nation of laws, not of men (to quote Jerry Ford).

I understand your position, but the preservation of the union should supersede this.  Is Trump guilty of crimes that could send him to prison?  Quite possibly.  Is it in the nation’s best interest to have him in prison?  No.  It would just cement existing political divides and normalize Republican calls of imprisoning political opponents for bogus reasons.

Tbh, I'm not fully convinced there will be a "civil war" in the sense. More likely there are local upraises by militia groups, but all of these can be taken care of the police and the National Guards.

Another question is whether a guilty verdict for Trump automatically has to lead to prison. He could also remain under house arrest or some other penalty. Not uncommon for 76+ year olds who aren't a (direct) violent offender.
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2023, 10:44:46 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity.  

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

The logical conclusion of your argument is that Trump could go on a mass shooting spree, killing dozens of people every day, and we shouldn't do anything about it because his freak supporters would react violently.

Someone should not be above the law just because they're popular among a violent group of people.

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2023, 10:48:37 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

Someone should not be above the law just because they're popular among a violent group of people.

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.

Don’t you think Bush/Cheney should be in prison too for what they did . If so your position would clearly undermine our FP and that would be bad because of Bush deserves to be in prison so would most of our presidents since 1945.

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2023, 11:03:45 AM »

No, arresting former presidents is a bad idea and not in the interest of national unity. 

Is your position that former presidents should be completely above the law? If Trump killed his wife, should he not be arrested?

It’s a difficult balance between holding people accountable and not pissing off too many supporters.  If Trump were arrested there would almost certainly be civil unrest.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

Someone should not be above the law just because they're popular among a violent group of people.

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.

Don’t you think Bush/Cheney should be in prison too for what they did . If so your position would clearly undermine our FP and that would be bad because of Bush deserves to be in prison so would most of our presidents since 1945.

No. What Bush and Cheney did is significantly worse than anything the other Presidents did. But that's besides the point, "you'd have to arrest all the Presidents, so they must be above the law" is a stupid argument.

Just accept that you want a king, not a president.
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2023, 11:13:20 AM »

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

The logical conclusion of your argument is that Trump could go on a mass shooting spree, killing dozens of people every day, and we shouldn't do anything about it because his freak supporters would react violently.

Someone should not be above the law just because they're popular among a violent group of people.

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.

I don’t think that’s a logical conclusion at all.  Trump killing his wife or going on a mass shooting is quite a bit different than any political related crimes he’s being charged with.
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2023, 11:32:25 AM »

"Probably not," but I hope I am wrong. Would be great to see his face when the judge sentences him to even just a small amount of time in jail.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2023, 12:12:28 PM »

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

The logical conclusion of your argument is that Trump could go on a mass shooting spree, killing dozens of people every day, and we shouldn't do anything about it because his freak supporters would react violently.

Someone should not be above the law just because they're popular among a violent group of people.

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard.

I don’t think that’s a logical conclusion at all.  Trump killing his wife or going on a mass shooting is quite a bit different than any political related crimes he’s being charged with.

Is it? I'm not sure how you could argue that his supporters would treat those two instances differently.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2023, 12:22:53 PM »

Pretty shocked at how lopsided the poll results are so far. It's not sustainable to just let crime lords skate by on felonies because they won an election (with the aid of solicited foreign interference). It would be a severe net negative in the long-term to ignore the need for justice here. What are we waiting for, the next coup attempt by him or other fascists to succeed?
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2023, 01:51:01 PM »

Pretty shocked at how lopsided the poll results are so far. It's not sustainable to just let crime lords skate by on felonies because they won an election (with the aid of solicited foreign interference). It would be a severe net negative in the long-term to ignore the need for justice here. What are we waiting for, the next coup attempt by him or other fascists to succeed?

The question was not "SHOULD Trump go to prison" it was "WILL he". Massive difference.

In a just world, Trump would spend the rest of his life in maximum security prison. But we don't live in a just world.
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