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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 18, 2023, 08:50:19 PM »
« edited: March 18, 2023, 09:52:37 PM by West_Midlander »

Thank you, Razze, for providing this opening statement. It is appreciated that you have already touched on your tenure as Dean and Speaker of the House.

In the interest of public debate and to promote a fair hearing, I would like to put forward a question.  As you know, the current makeup of the Senate reflects a concerning degree of divisiveness. It is entirely possible that your role as President of the Senate will be highly significant should we face tied votes on legislation. Could you please speak to your experience as a consequential decision-maker in Congress, or in any other professional role, and how you can best ensure that factionalism and party affiliation will not play a role in your duties as VP?

Can you elaborate on this?
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2023, 11:27:42 AM »
« Edited: March 19, 2023, 11:34:35 AM by West_Midlander »

Reiterating my previous comments:

As a Senator, I can't support razze's nomination.

Razze has too many qualities in contradiction with the original running mate, Laki. Laki, for example, is willing to compromise and support candidates across the political spectrum if he considers them a good choice. He is a leftist, like razze, but in terms of supporting legislation and carrying out his duties, he (Laki) does this in earnest with an open mind, instead of coming out of the woodwork to just toe the party (Labor-in-all-but-name) line. And I know that razze has historically been in Peace but a partisan label doesn't mean everything; you can be in Peace, as the majority of Peace of old was, and be completely beholden to Labor. However, I am looking forward to my former party shaking off that legacy which it has made strong efforts to do as of late.

Peace should be for Peace. This is a statement echoed by many of the party's present-day roster.

This is still very relevant.

It's one thing to say you'll...[be independent]...and most people say they will...[be but a large amount of the time this is just talk].
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2023, 11:35:47 AM »


You mean the President's bursting onto the campaign trail attacking his political opposition, as a whole, right?
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2023, 02:07:39 PM »

I'm sorry you feel like you can't trust me. All I can do is reiterate that I will act with an open mind and as an independent voice I hope you will eventually be able to see that I mean it. Feel free to contact me privately if you need.


You mean the President's bursting onto the campaign trail attacking his political opposition, as a whole, right?

To be honest, I'm not sure what you're referring to here specifically. Does this refer to Tack engaging in political attacks and campaigning while running for president? That's his right, as well as yours and mine and every other citizen.

By acrimony, I meant the personal attacks and harassment by various politicians from all corners of the spectrum, all of whom I have publicly and called out before in other threads, and who I have privately spoken to in attempts to get us all to stop fighting so harshly. I believe this shows my consistency. I want us to get back to political simulation again, like we all signed up for, and like I used to enjoy back when I was someone who ran for office. Thank you for asking a question!!

The post was in reference to Tack's basically calling all Federalists, besides Cao, bad people. He isn't a unifier as President by any means and I believe that if you're blind to his positioning, you must be either willingly ignorant or complicit in his divisive policies. How can you support this division and claim to be independent? Sure, he could attack on the substance of policy, but this was on the back burner for Tack and only expanded upon (barely) when asked about. He casts non-Laborites with a broad brush because it's easier than defining what he disagrees with us on politically.

Cap is an honourable man. But many Federalists are not
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2023, 05:22:48 PM »
« Edited: March 20, 2023, 05:50:22 PM by West_Midlander »

I believe Razze has sufficiently answered all questions put forward. I motion for a final vote.

I object.

Razze has only received questions from 3 Senators, right?

As Poirot and windjammer have said before, we should give anything before the Senate its due diligence before we head to a vote.

I have a few more questions for the nominee, as well, which I would like answered before we head to a final vote.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2023, 05:44:09 PM »
« Edited: March 20, 2023, 05:49:06 PM by West_Midlander »

Also, what happened to your 3-5 days without debate (or questions, in this case) rule, Senator Pyro? You again motioned for a vote one day after questions were last made.

...if a bill has gone 4-5 days without activity, I don't think floating a vote motion is at all unreasonable.

...this bill was commented on the day before your final vote motion.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2023, 05:47:22 PM »

I believe Razze has sufficiently answered all questions put forward. I motion for a final vote.

I object.

Razze has only received questions from 2 Senators, right?

As Poirot and windjammer have said before, we should give anything before the Senate its due diligence before we head to a vote.

I have a few more questions for the nominee, as well, which I would like answered before we head to a final vote.

This discussion has been open for senators to contribute with comments and questions for seven full days, and Razze's opening statement has been on the floor for six full days. The most recent hearings, those being the confirmation of Lumine for GM, Scott for Secretary of State, and the 3-in-1 WB, Forumlurker, and NYE for GM Team, each had markedly shorter discussion periods than this. If you oppose this VP confirmation, that is your prerogative, but it's past time we vote on filling this position which has stood vacant for far too long.

Also, what happened to your 3-5 days without debate (or questions, in this case) rule, Senator Pyro? You again motioned for a vote one day after questions were last made.

...if a bill has gone 4-5 days without activity, I don't think floating a vote motion is at all unreasonable.

...this bill was commented on the day before your final vote motion.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2023, 06:00:34 PM »

Also, what happened to your 3-5 days without debate (or questions, in this case) rule, Senator Pyro? You again motioned for a vote one day after questions were last made.

Do not take my words out of context.
The purpose of this confirmation hearing is to fill a vital administrative position that has remained vacant for almost 3 weeks, a matter which you do not seem to treat with any degree of urgency.

I only removed the first part of your sentence which doesn't change the meaning at all. I did not edit your words. Are you so untruthful that you will imply that you have been consistently following your 3-5 day rule when that is in no way the case?
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2023, 06:02:45 PM »

There is no rush to vote on any legislation, not by myself nor anyone else. If debate and discussion appears to have ended, if amendments as proposed by members of the Senate have been considered, or if a bill has gone 4-5 days without activity, I don't think floating a vote motion is at all unreasonable.

Does this substantially change the meaning, Pyro? Or is it that you're willing to rush a nomination that this body should weigh as carefully as you believe we should weigh legislation?
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2023, 06:03:50 PM »

I believe Razze has sufficiently answered all questions put forward. I motion for a final vote.

I object.

Razze has only received questions from 3 Senators, right?

As Poirot and windjammer have said before, we should give anything before the Senate its due diligence before we head to a vote.

I have a few more questions for the nominee, as well, which I would like answered before we head to a final vote.
Its been a week, could we get an ETA on when you will post these few more questions for Razze? Besides, you already indicated that you oppose his nomination. What more would you like to hear from him?

Forgive me if I'm not such a hard partisan as you and Pyro. I have not been sold immediately on nominations in the past and have voted for them after further consideration. Although I have concerns about the nominee, I'm open to abstaining on the vote, or even voting for him, if I hear a good case for it.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2023, 06:56:41 PM »

This delay is getting ridiculous, we need a Vice President.

OK, I am posting my questions now. I apologize for the tremendous one hour wait my colleagues had to withstand (although some members of this chamber just ignore questions when they so please).

Razze,

1. If President Tack runs for re-election, do you think you will be his running mate?

2. Do you believe that most members of your party support continuing an electoral pact with Labor?

3. What party do you believe Peace's natural partner is, if any?

4. Why do you think prominent members of your party broke with Labor and do you think you can be an effective representative of the elected Peace Vice President, Laki, as a result?

5. Should Peace be independent, determining cooperation on a case by case basis, or instead work with one party primarily?

6. Have you been recently active in elected or appointed office? Why or why not? I may have a follow-up or two to this question depending on the answer.

I think these are important questions since the nominee has stressed his ability to represent Atlasians fairly across the party spectrum.
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West_Midlander
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,929
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Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: 1.22

« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2023, 05:25:54 PM »

Aye. Razze's responses to my questions were appreciated, and thoughtful, and changed my mind about this nomination.
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