Is the Youngkin Coalition the best path the GOP can take?

[2,284,967]

I honestly think its the best middle ground between the "old" and the "new" GOP. Those suburbanites that so many members speak of with comtempt or annoyance were and still are a KEY faction of the GOP, their votes are valuable! Abandoning them is insanely stupid and an easy way to lose a valuable segment of the American people! On the other hand, we cannot ignore the newest part of the GOP tent, the Trump coalition of the working class whites, Hispanic men and more socially conservative ethnic minorities.

It is not impossible for the GOP to keep both sides decently satisfied and cooperative!

Glenn Youngkin has made a rudimentary form of this coalition which helped him win the 2021 Virginia GOV race (albeit with a small margin) which shows that its possible to run this type of coalition! I think it could be the future of the GOP (at least in the near future!). Maybe DeSantis tries to shape a similar national coalition to defeat Trump in the primaries? Maybe even beat Biden?

What are your thoughts?

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

No, the RS need to reach out to minorities the Bush H and Bush W pict you show had Colin Powell and the RS since McCain vacated that they campaign in IA a state they are automatically win and not campaign in blk and brown states outside of TX and FL

LoL Youngkin only beat TMac by 2 pts when Biden polls was at 41%, there are 65M poor people all RS talk about is tax cuts for rich

LoL neither he nor DeSantis have been scrutinized by BIDEN

[2,284,967]

No, the RS need to reach out to minorities the Bush H and Bush W pict you show had Colin Powell and the RS since McCain vacated that they campaign in IA a state they are automatically win and not campaign in blk and brown states outside of TX and FL

LoL Youngkin only beat TMac by 2 pts when Biden polls was at 41%, there are 65M poor people all RS talk about is tax cuts for rich

LoL neither he nor DeSantis have been scrutinized by BIDEN

That's what we've been doing, we've tried reaching out to Hispanics and black men in particular and its had some effect but we're still learning on how to appeal to these groups as the GOP is still very much the "old white guy" party!

I don't want tax cuts for the rich, we need tax cuts for the lower and middle classes, the lifeblood of America!

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Tax cuts for Rich people and Rs want to sunset social security isn't gonna get blks to vote R, if there is no Debt Ceiling raise we don't get SSA checks and Rs have the H yeah you are reaching out to blks and Latinos only in FL and TX because of DeSantis and Abbott why did RS lose WI, MI, PA, NV and AZ and GA in the Midterms because Fetterman, Whitmer, Shapiro and Evers won with blk votes

Johnson barely held on in the WI due to WOW not because of Madison and Milwaukee and in 28 if Robert Kennedy Jr runs for Prez hopefully he does RS are definitely not winning again in WI it appears Harris isn't gonna be the nominee for Prez in 28 Newsom or Robert Kennedy is

Even Warren doesn't like Harris but she will remain as Veep because Biden already is WC

[oldtimer]

What works in Virginia might not work in Ohio.

How liberal can you go to try to win blue states before you start losing soft red states is the universal question of republican politics.

I think the youngkin coalition existed temporarily only in 2021 and is not replicable.

Think about the conditions that made it happen.

1. Moral panic among parents that liberals had gone too far.
2. Liberals annoying most people with their strict hygenic campaigns at a time when the plague was over.
3. The economy temporarily turning sour.

Now you can recreate No1, but No2 and 3 are not under republican control.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

D's are invested in DC Statehood that galvanized blk voters in VA and MD anyways

[Ferguson97]

Either him or Kemp, yes.

The key for Republicans to win in the post-Trump era is to run Trumpy guys who don't act Trumpy.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Either him or Kemp, yes.

The key for Republicans to win in the post-Trump era is to run Trumpy guys who don't act Trumpy.

LoL, no they still want tax cuts for rich people that only helps 47% DeSantis is gonna get Romney number

[หมูเด้ง]

What works in Virginia might not work in Ohio.

How liberal can you go to try to win blue states before you start losing soft red states is the universal question of republican politics.

I think the youngkin coalition existed temporarily only in 2021 and is not replicable.

Think about the conditions that made it happen.

1. Moral panic among parents that liberals had gone too far.
2. Liberals annoying most people with their strict hygenic campaigns at a time when the plague was over.
3. The economy temporarily turning sour.

Now you can recreate No1, but No2 and 3 are not under republican control.

Another version of this is the Colorado 2014 senate race. I think so long as the anbort issue is static, number one seems to be off the table. Number two is already being forgotten about. I guess that leaves number three which if it doesn’t happen, despite everything else, even if the economy really isn’t that good,  three is next to impossible to argue. So yeah. Youngkin plus unemployment being over 7% basically.

[Skill and Chance]

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

[Raccoon]

never forget that Trumpkin did worse in Nova  and Richmond than many Republicans who lost Virginia in the past.

He is not going to have a major suburban revival. More of a correction or dead cat bounce.

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

inflation was always hype. People need to learn to budget their bills better.

[Skill and Chance]

never forget that Trumpkin did worse in Nova  and Richmond than many Republicans who lost Virginia in the past.

He is not going to have a major suburban revival. More of a correction or dead cat bounce.

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

inflation was always hype. People need to learn to budget their bills better.

I mean that Republicans have strongly pivoted to the hard money/austerity approach and prioritizing low inflation over e.g. unemployment.  This puts a limit on economic outreach to the lower half of the income distribution.   

[หมูเด้ง]

never forget that Trumpkin did worse in Nova  and Richmond than many Republicans who lost Virginia in the past.

He is not going to have a major suburban revival. More of a correction or dead cat bounce.

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

inflation was always hype. People need to learn to budget their bills better.

Keeping up with the Joneses has never been too important since you can see your classmate or your ex going to the Maldives or that VIP dubstep concert, lounging around their $800000 condo, sporting around the Channel bag or Hublot watch that costs more than your 2007 Accord, or driving around in a new Tesla. Don’t even get me started on their new FAANG job or boob job! Actually, go ahead and make that Tesla a B7 Alpena.

Relative Deprivation is a thing.

Maybe that’s cliche bullsh**t that dodges important questions by making fun of people who aren’t smart enough or too greedy to find  achievement or fulfillment.

[Raccoon]

never forget that Trumpkin did worse in Nova  and Richmond than many Republicans who lost Virginia in the past.

He is not going to have a major suburban revival. More of a correction or dead cat bounce.

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

inflation was always hype. People need to learn to budget their bills better.

Keeping up with the Joneses has never been too important since you can see your classmate or your ex going to the Maldives, lounging around their $800000 condo, sporting around the Channel bag or Hublot watch that costs more than your 2007 Accord, or driving around in a new Tesla. Don’t even get me started on their new FAANG job or boob job! Actually, go ahead and make that Tesla a B7 Alpena.

this is not a competition .. a competition to what? its not like equal outcomes are even possible. far to many VARIABLES.

keeping up with the joneses is what is wrong with american society.

[หมูเด้ง]

never forget that Trumpkin did worse in Nova  and Richmond than many Republicans who lost Virginia in the past.

He is not going to have a major suburban revival. More of a correction or dead cat bounce.

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

inflation was always hype. People need to learn to budget their bills better.

Keeping up with the Joneses has never been too important since you can see your classmate or your ex going to the Maldives, lounging around their $800000 condo, sporting around the Channel bag or Hublot watch that costs more than your 2007 Accord, or driving around in a new Tesla. Don’t even get me started on their new FAANG job or boob job! Actually, go ahead and make that Tesla a B7 Alpena.

this is not a competition .. a competition to what? its not like equal outcomes are even possible. far to many VARIABLES.

keeping up with the joneses is what is wrong with american society.

Is it a valid sca…. Err… alternative hypothesis?

[BG-NY (permanently retired)]

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

God I hope this is wrong.

[หมูเด้ง]

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

God I hope this is wrong.

Florida will be interesting if they do make abortion illegal there.

[Blue3]

Who is Youngkin and what is he doing?

[Skill and Chance]

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

God I hope this is wrong.

Florida will be interesting if they do make abortion illegal there.

Like a million committed R's moved there since COVID.  It's over. 

[หมูเด้ง]

I think so.  Abortion and inflation becoming top issues have closed the door on the max WWC strategy, at least for a few years.

God I hope this is wrong.

Florida will be interesting if they do make abortion illegal there.

Like a million committed R's moved there since COVID.  It's over. 

I guess Democrats should focus on the states they left.

[DrScholl]

There's no Youngkin coalition anymore than there was a John Bel Edwards coalition, at least not in terms of anything that could be realistically duplicated. Conditional coalitions are not long term strategy. Republicans only gained one House seat in Virginia in 2022 and the residual effect of that was losing a state senate seat.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Suburbanites will leave the GOP no matter what. Trends are real and instead of chasing what's leaving them, the GOP should try extra hard to win over more non-college educated whites, Hispanics and young black voters.

The trends started even before Trump and they will not reverse in 2024 no matter what. Go full populist and get more of the voters that are D>R instead of people running away from the GOP.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

RS aren't gonna do much as we see what inflation rose 0.4% and Rs are still going after Hunter Laptop they believe all you have to do is work and get ahead but there is inheritance wealth

[หมูเด้ง]

Suburbanites will leave the GOP no matter what. Trends are real and instead of chasing what's leaving them, the GOP should try extra hard to win over more non-college educated whites, Hispanics and young black voters.

The trends started even before Trump and they will not reverse in 2024 no matter what. Go full populist and get more of the voters that are D>R instead of people running away from the GOP.

Abortion probably won’t do this but maybe gun rights and work licensing requirements (COVID was a strong catalyst for this) will too. Maybe there’s some there there to school operations privatization and nationalizing school curriculum.

I think in that way, you could use a Youngkin strategy to get people who should vote Democrat that don’t vote to vote Republican instead of using that strategy to convince people to come back.

I also think that the Democrats can and should do the same for them.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

Sillican Valley bank failed and Rs are acting like we are in a normal Eday cycle no it's not an R Prez give tax cuts to rich and it looks like DeSantis wont be Prez he called DeSantis a Paul Ryan disciple that's why he reminds D's of so much like Romney