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« on: March 10, 2023, 09:59:53 PM »

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2023, 10:03:22 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2023, 10:08:15 PM by Frodo »

I believe I saw a graphic once that showed that white Americans composed the largest modern proportion of the overall population in the 1940s.  I am going to try to find it...  

Edit: here it is, I think:



So the 1920s through to around 1950.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2023, 10:07:47 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2023, 10:48:52 PM »

race is a fake concept invented by the man to divide us so they can implement big govt communism

the only two kinds of ppl in this world r the gods and the pussies, and u get to choose which one u r
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2023, 10:55:39 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2023, 11:03:54 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Whites arent rich they aren't poor like Latinos and blks that why they are still the majority in this country because they still have lots of kids while blk and some Latinos are stagnant we have kids but it's usually 1 or 2 if whites have them like my pastor had in 80s it's 4 they are middle class the difference is 55/45 WC females vote D that's why we can win OH, NC in a Prez Eday than in a Midterm because it's higher Turnout the only safe states as I have often said are the Dakotas FL and TX we are winning MS, KY, LA Gov and can win MO, OH, MT S races in 2 yrs because they aren't the Dakotas TX and FL

Watch we win OH,KS, SC, AK, NC in the Prez Eday I said 300/355 because 50/45 is what Obama gotten in 2012, Biden got that too but it was closer in 20 because Trump gave out stimulus checks he ran up the Debt without raising taxes on Stimulus checks and now Biden need to raise taxes on millionaires

Everyone says it's a 303 map now it is but the WC females that voted for Vance voted for Brown too in 2006(12/18, Brown won by 6 the exact margin as Vance in ,2018 that means women not men was the difference
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2023, 11:39:42 AM »

The question is phrased very vague. As for demographics, Frodo's graph is the correct answer.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2023, 02:29:30 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2023, 04:27:45 PM »

1996. It’s unlikely that White America will ever top Pinkerton.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2023, 05:22:51 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2023, 05:23:59 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2023, 06:10:07 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
If Trump received the support levels of Reagan on each demo group, he would've won the PV by 11 points. Interestingly, the GOP has weakened only among White college voters and Asian voters, with Trump seemingly overperforming Reagan among non college Whites, Hispanic voters, and Black voters.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2023, 06:27:24 PM »


Yeah, much later than everyone is saying and possibly even 'hasn't happened yet'. The Census which showed the highest number of people identifying as 'White alone' was 2010, and while 2020 saw a decrease this was substantially the result of questions being phrased differently and a general 'flight from white' associated with the Great Awokening as people became likelier to identify with remote aspects of their heritage.

(My guess for 'total wealth held by white Americans' is indeed something like 'right this second', and beyond any doubt 'in the 2020s'. If that's what 'White America at its peak' means, then we're nowhere near the peak and there's no particular reason to think it would be this century, and plausibly not this millennium.)

'2016' is an interesting answer, since that was the first year there were more white deaths than births recorded in the US. In the late 2010s, the percentage of births that are to non-white mothers fell below 50%, but in the 2020s the number of births to white mothers has spiked back to 52% per March of Dimes (compare 54% in 2010, 49% in 2015, according to Pew); this is mostly associated with immigrants now having a much lower fertility rate (being likelier to come from countries that have experienced the demographic transition, and being likelier to be Asian rather than Latin American) and a greater percentage of white Americans being ultra-ultra-religious. There also may be a 2020s-era 'remote work boom' among wealthy Americans, who are disproportionately white, but it's too soon to tell; could also just be delayed fertility among those who didn't want a child during the COVID pandemic. Thus, the answer is plausibly 'hasn't even happened yet'. (OTOH not all births to white mothers are themselves white, though a very strong majority are).

Anyway, if you extrapolate second derivatives out (change in rates of change), it's perfectly plausible to assume that white Americans will see natural growth in the second half of the 21st century. It would be a pretty different society to the earlier one, though.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2023, 06:34:28 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
If Trump received the support levels of Reagan on each demo group, he would've won the PV by 11 points. Interestingly, the GOP has weakened only among White college voters and Asian voters, with Trump seemingly overperforming Reagan among non college Whites, Hispanic voters, and Black voters.
Wow.
I'd be interested in seeing what kuzhinefq would think about this and what questions he would raise about this math. But if it checks out...
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2023, 06:41:24 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
If Trump received the support levels of Reagan on each demo group, he would've won the PV by 11 points. Interestingly, the GOP has weakened only among White college voters and Asian voters, with Trump seemingly overperforming Reagan among non college Whites, Hispanic voters, and Black voters.
Wow.
I'd be interested in seeing what kuzhinefq would think about this and what questions he would raise about this math. But if it checks out...

I put the Roper exit poll in the cook swingometer. Made college whites a little more GOP than non college, which I believe was still the case. Estimated the Asian vote at 65% GOP because it also used to be very GOP.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2023, 06:47:37 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
If Trump received the support levels of Reagan on each demo group, he would've won the PV by 11 points. Interestingly, the GOP has weakened only among White college voters and Asian voters, with Trump seemingly overperforming Reagan among non college Whites, Hispanic voters, and Black voters.
Wow.
I'd be interested in seeing what kuzhinefq would think about this and what questions he would raise about this math. But if it checks out...

I put the Roper exit poll in the cook swingometer. Made college whites a little more GOP than non college, which I believe was still the case. Estimated the Asian vote at 65% GOP because it also used to be very GOP.
According to the NYTimes...
1980
White College 55R-31D
White Noncollege 57R-36D
1984
White College 62R-37D
White Noncollege 66R-34D
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2023, 06:49:38 PM »

1980s.

60% of them voted Republican, and that was enough to give Reagan landslides.

60% still vote that way, and it's barely enough to cheat out an Electoral College victory now.
This is a very good point. What % of the white vote would it take to get 84 or even 80 margins for a republican?
75%? 80%?
If Trump received the support levels of Reagan on each demo group, he would've won the PV by 11 points. Interestingly, the GOP has weakened only among White college voters and Asian voters, with Trump seemingly overperforming Reagan among non college Whites, Hispanic voters, and Black voters.
Wow.
I'd be interested in seeing what kuzhinefq would think about this and what questions he would raise about this math. But if it checks out...

I put the Roper exit poll in the cook swingometer. Made college whites a little more GOP than non college, which I believe was still the case. Estimated the Asian vote at 65% GOP because it also used to be very GOP.
Ok, that makes sense.
Thank you.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2023, 08:37:34 AM »

Modern medicine makes every decade better than the last.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2023, 09:21:14 AM »

Not yet Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2023, 09:33:15 AM »
« Edited: March 12, 2023, 09:38:20 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »


It will never be at it's peak it's becoming a blk and brown world not a white World

Where is DeSantis outreach to NAACP Bush W and McCain because of Colin Powell went to NAACP , FPAC doesn't reach out to blks


You know there are 65Mpoor people in this country that's why we have blk and women history the job isn't finished yet


Since Romney RS haven't visited the NAACP the reason why McCain lost he pick Palin whom was not liked by Blks , you know Romney lost right
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2023, 09:59:14 AM »

As Rev Barb there isn't a shortage of resources that's why he recruits Beto and Gallego to run in wave insurance states because he believed in blue waves not just 303 maps

RS all the only ones that have to shrink the map because they have to win blue states we can expand the map because it's blk and brown population

That's why we are winning in KY and MS and NC G if it was a 303 map we wouldn't have won KS 22 and LA is a Runoff we must wait til these Red state G races are over to see about wave insurance as I keep saying
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