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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2023, 11:33:27 PM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2023, 12:14:52 AM »

Dunking on people for teen pregnancies in their families is pretty gauche no matter what their stance on sex ed is.
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2023, 12:23:01 AM »

I hope for the grand kid’s sake she remains busy in Washington and the news circuit to be too involved in the kid’s life.
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2023, 12:28:49 AM »

Trashy dropped-out-of-high-school-to-have-a-baby teen parents deserve representation in Congress just as much as any other subgroup of American citizens.  Good for her!

This but unironically.

Yep. Now if only a few such Congresscritters were based hick Marxists from places like Upper New England and the parts of the upper Mississippi Valley that have some residual Democratic strength.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2023, 01:19:17 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2023, 02:26:14 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )



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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2023, 03:47:30 AM »

Was it consentual and wanted? Then that's perfectly fine...

Still hate Boebert's guts with a passion, she'd make a less than adequate grandma.
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2023, 04:09:16 AM »

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

"Brandon" has become the new "DemonRats". As soon as I see that word choice, 500 red flags pop up and alarms start ringing in my head. The odds of any objective or non-partisan commentary coming after one of those words pops up is slim to none.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2023, 04:19:19 AM »

Her 17 year old son impregnated his 15 year old gf.
Clearly she's a bad mother and her being proud of this is a big wtf moment. I'm glad they're gonna look after the child, but even getting to this point points to a serious lack of parental judgement.
She should be primaried over this.
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2023, 06:34:46 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )





The answer to that question is "No!"

https://nypost.com/2022/11/28/hunter-bidens-love-child-snubbed-in-white-house-stocking-display/

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Roberts’ lawyer, Clint Lancaster told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette last year that Navy had never met her biological father.

“Every child needs loving parents and loving grandparents,” Lancaster told the outlet. “This child could stand a relationship with her father. She could stand a relationship with her grandfather.”

When the Biden Family elevates itself to the level of the Boebert family with regard to loving a family member despite the circumstances that the child was born into, then I'll "shut up".  This thread was used to dump on a person (albeit a public figure) for purely personal reasons.  Now public figures are fair game, but I'm going to point out the hypocrisy and double standards here.

Lauren Boebert and her husband would never disown and abandon Navy Joan Roberts if she were their grandchild, regardless of the circumstances.  Neither would I.  Neither would Landslide Lyndon, ProudModerate2, Badger, Harry, et al here.  Even those I disagree with here and who have not always been FFs as posters likely have more decency on this issue than Grandpa Brandon and Dr. Jill.

This scenario is common in single parent families of color.  Are all of those parents horrible parents when this happens?  That's a fair question.  People are posting how Lauren Boebert is a 'terrible parent" on the basis of this, and this alone.  If that's the case, how far and wide can we apply this standard to?  I'm certainly not going to tar every parent of color in this situation (or every poor white parent in, say, Appalachia, for that matter).  Some are and some aren't  But the judgments made here on Lauren Boebert are made solely on her political beliefs, with no knowledge whatsoever of what her parenting has actually been like.  And people here refuse to criticize Joe Biden's disowning Navy Joan Roberts, his precious granddaughter, solely because of politics.  If we've become THIS politicized as a society to where threads like this happen, that's a sign that objective truths hold too little force for too many.
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2023, 06:55:39 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Sorry, dude, but the Biden's posture on Navy Joan Roberts speaks for itself.  It really does. 

I've not had the greatest relationship with at least one of the mothers of my grandchildren, and I certainly haven't had the highest regard for her, either.  And, quite frankly, with good reason.  Nonetheless, I've kept this to myself, I don't jump in to Drama Episodes and Social Media Flame Wars, and I have never let my two (2) granddaughters by her know of my real opinions and feelings.  And this ex-daughter-in-law is, quite frankly, a liar and a grifter (as little Navy Joan's mother may well be).  All of that is trivia next to the fact that this child is a Family Member.

The Biden's don't deserve the love of Navy Joan Roberts.  Given their outright rejection of this innocent child, I would (if I were Mom) tell them to all go jump off a bridge and find a suitable husband who would adopt Navy Joan, love her, and raise her as his own.  That's not the game plan right now.  I'm sure that this child would be as loving and sweet as any other Biden grandchild.  And if she weren't, it would likely be a sign that, just perhaps, she was in need of extra love, given some of the chaos surrounding her young life (although I certainly hope she's been shielded from that). 

But, please, don't patronize me.  People are dunking on Boebert and excusing Biden.  Where's your rebuke of the rest of the crowd here who are dunking on Boebert who, whatever one can say, has not abandoned and disowned one of her own.
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2023, 08:58:27 AM »
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Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Sorry, dude, but the Biden's posture on Navy Joan Roberts speaks for itself.  It really does. 

I've not had the greatest relationship with at least one of the mothers of my grandchildren, and I certainly haven't had the highest regard for her, either.  And, quite frankly, with good reason.  Nonetheless, I've kept this to myself, I don't jump in to Drama Episodes and Social Media Flame Wars, and I have never let my two (2) granddaughters by her know of my real opinions and feelings.  And this ex-daughter-in-law is, quite frankly, a liar and a grifter (as little Navy Joan's mother may well be).  All of that is trivia next to the fact that this child is a Family Member.

The Biden's don't deserve the love of Navy Joan Roberts.  Given their outright rejection of this innocent child, I would (if I were Mom) tell them to all go jump off a bridge and find a suitable husband who would adopt Navy Joan, love her, and raise her as his own.  That's not the game plan right now.  I'm sure that this child would be as loving and sweet as any other Biden grandchild.  And if she weren't, it would likely be a sign that, just perhaps, she was in need of extra love, given some of the chaos surrounding her young life (although I certainly hope she's been shielded from that). 

But, please, don't patronize me.  People are dunking on Boebert and excusing Biden.  Where's your rebuke of the rest of the crowd here who are dunking on Boebert who, whatever one can say, has not abandoned and disowned one of her own.

Yet again, you don't know the real story of what Joe and Jill have been willing or unwilling to do for their grandchild. It is entirely beyond the pale for you to start making assumptions that are 100% based on your politics. It also really shreds tour credibility when you (understandably) get mad when people here do the same thing to you.

I also think people shouldn't go after Boebert's family, but no one here made anywhere near the level of attack on them as you did in Biden.
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2023, 09:03:24 AM »

Let's not mock teen parents.
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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2023, 09:13:17 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )





The answer to that question is "No!"

https://nypost.com/2022/11/28/hunter-bidens-love-child-snubbed-in-white-house-stocking-display/

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Roberts’ lawyer, Clint Lancaster told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette last year that Navy had never met her biological father.

“Every child needs loving parents and loving grandparents,” Lancaster told the outlet. “This child could stand a relationship with her father. She could stand a relationship with her grandfather.”

When the Biden Family elevates itself to the level of the Boebert family with regard to loving a family member despite the circumstances that the child was born into, then I'll "shut up".  This thread was used to dump on a person (albeit a public figure) for purely personal reasons.  Now public figures are fair game, but I'm going to point out the hypocrisy and double standards here.

Lauren Boebert and her husband would never disown and abandon Navy Joan Roberts if she were their grandchild, regardless of the circumstances.  Neither would I.  Neither would Landslide Lyndon, ProudModerate2, Badger, Harry, et al here.  Even those I disagree with here and who have not always been FFs as posters likely have more decency on this issue than Grandpa Brandon and Dr. Jill.

This scenario is common in single parent families of color.  Are all of those parents horrible parents when this happens?  That's a fair question.  People are posting how Lauren Boebert is a 'terrible parent" on the basis of this, and this alone.  If that's the case, how far and wide can we apply this standard to?  I'm certainly not going to tar every parent of color in this situation (or every poor white parent in, say, Appalachia, for that matter).  Some are and some aren't  But the judgments made here on Lauren Boebert are made solely on her political beliefs, with no knowledge whatsoever of what her parenting has actually been like.  And people here refuse to criticize Joe Biden's disowning Navy Joan Roberts, his precious granddaughter, solely because of politics.  If we've become THIS politicized as a society to where threads like this happen, that's a sign that objective truths hold too little force for too many.

Wall of text "old man yells at Cloud" ramblings by fuzzy=Atlas on a day that ends in a y.

Anywho, regarding the story, it is laughable that a woman who decries sex education in the schools becomes a 36-year-old grandmother and people still think that is anything but laughable.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2023, 09:44:28 AM »

It doesn't bother me that she's going to be a grandmother at such a young age.

My grandmother was 40 when I was born, and she's one of the sweetest, kindest, most moral people you'll ever meet and so is my mother. This doesn't make Boebert a bad mother or a bad person. Families come in all different ways and it's dumb to criticize people for that. Her politics and her idiocy is what we should be focused on.
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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2023, 09:52:06 AM »

It doesn't bother me that she's going to be a grandmother at such a young age.

My grandmother was 40 when I was born, and she's one of the sweetest, kindest, most moral people you'll ever meet and so is my mother. This doesn't make Boebert a bad mother or a bad person. Families come in all different ways and it's dumb to criticize people for that. Her politics and her idiocy is what we should be focused on.

With respect, and my grandmother too became a mother at barely 19, though she didn't become a grandmother to The Ripe old age of 44. Wink, part of her idiotic politics is the complete lack of self-awareness in decrying sex education, and then both she and her son get involved with teen pregnancies at 17.
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2023, 09:52:17 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Sorry, dude, but the Biden's posture on Navy Joan Roberts speaks for itself.  It really does. 

I've not had the greatest relationship with at least one of the mothers of my grandchildren, and I certainly haven't had the highest regard for her, either.  And, quite frankly, with good reason.  Nonetheless, I've kept this to myself, I don't jump in to Drama Episodes and Social Media Flame Wars, and I have never let my two (2) granddaughters by her know of my real opinions and feelings.  And this ex-daughter-in-law is, quite frankly, a liar and a grifter (as little Navy Joan's mother may well be).  All of that is trivia next to the fact that this child is a Family Member.

The Biden's don't deserve the love of Navy Joan Roberts.  Given their outright rejection of this innocent child, I would (if I were Mom) tell them to all go jump off a bridge and find a suitable husband who would adopt Navy Joan, love her, and raise her as his own.  That's not the game plan right now.  I'm sure that this child would be as loving and sweet as any other Biden grandchild.  And if she weren't, it would likely be a sign that, just perhaps, she was in need of extra love, given some of the chaos surrounding her young life (although I certainly hope she's been shielded from that). 

But, please, don't patronize me.  People are dunking on Boebert and excusing Biden.  Where's your rebuke of the rest of the crowd here who are dunking on Boebert who, whatever one can say, has not abandoned and disowned one of her own.

Yet again, you don't know the real story of what Joe and Jill have been willing or unwilling to do for their grandchild. It is entirely beyond the pale for you to start making assumptions that are 100% based on your politics. It also really shreds tour credibility when you (understandably) get mad when people here do the same thing to you.

I also think people shouldn't go after Boebert's family, but no one here made anywhere near the level of attack on them as you did in Biden.

Biden doesn't even acknowledge Navy Joan as his granddaughter, and unless something changed yesterday, that's still the case.

They treat her like a bastard.  Boebert doesn't do that. If Biden is torn about this situation, let him summon up the courage he seemed to find when he whipped Cornpop and do the right thing here.
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2023, 09:53:20 AM »

This proves she’s a complete failure of a parent

No, this proves she has the best genes. Solid 10's strike while the iron is hot.
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2023, 09:53:39 AM »

It doesn't bother me that she's going to be a grandmother at such a young age.

My grandmother was 40 when I was born, and she's one of the sweetest, kindest, most moral people you'll ever meet and so is my mother. This doesn't make Boebert a bad mother or a bad person. Families come in all different ways and it's dumb to criticize people for that. Her politics and her idiocy is what we should be focused on.

With respect, and my grandmother too became a mother at barely 19, though she didn't become a grandmother to The Ripe old age of 44. Wink, part of her idiotic politics is the complete lack of self-awareness in decrying sex education, and then both she and her son get involved with teen pregnancies at 17.


And that's a fair argument. But some posters are just saying the fact she's a grandmother so young proves she's a bad parent, and that's just not true. It doesn't prove anything about the quality of her parenting. (I'm sure there are a bunch of other things that might indicate poor parenting, but this ain't it.)
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2023, 09:54:10 AM »

This proves she’s a complete failure of a parent

No, this proves she has the best genes. Solid 10's strike while the iron is hot.

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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2023, 09:56:51 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Brandon is a public figure.   He's fair game.  Other posters are not

No, I don't know the whole story about Biden's granddaughter, but their rejection of her is rather public.
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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2023, 09:59:23 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Brandon is a public figure.   He's fair game.  Other posters are not

No, I don't know the whole story about Biden's granddaughter, but their rejection of her is rather public.


Who is Brandon?
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2023, 10:00:22 AM »

We don’t need more kids in America — we need fewer.

Becoming a parent at 18 is for sure questionable for various reasons, but that statement is with all due respect nonsense. You need future generations to keep social security solvent. Unless you want severely increase legal immigration.
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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2023, 10:02:41 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Brandon is a public figure.   He's fair game.  Other posters are not

No, I don't know the whole story about Biden's granddaughter, but their rejection of her is rather public.


Who is Brandon?

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"Let's Go, Brandon!"
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2023, 10:04:48 AM »

Didn't Republicans for decades rant about teen pregnancies? And how that's a loss of family values? We can say it again: It's always projection.

Imagine the outrage if that was Brandon's granddaughter.

Brandon disowns his granddaughter that Hunter fathered with a stripper.  That's a shame.   If I were little Navy's grandpa, she'd be one of the Family, period.  And so would just about everyone I know, regardless of party and politics.   (Or religion, for that matter. )

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. This is equally bad as posters here making unsupported personal attacks on your family.

Brandon is a public figure.   He's fair game.  Other posters are not

No, I don't know the whole story about Biden's granddaughter, but their rejection of her is rather public.


Who is Brandon?

I can't tell you exactly who he is, but I can tell you what he is: Dark.
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