Lauren Boebert is about to become a grandmother at 36

[Anti-Penguin Tariff Voter]

I hope the Boeberts don't pressure the 15 year-old one way or another on whether to keep it.

I would hope someone would.  That unborn child is a human being.

Where would you be now if YOU were aborted?  That's a serious question.  I'm not being snarky, but I'm asking you to consider something that's pretty deep; namely, the question of the Death of the Body and Eternity.  What do YOU believe?.  Lots of people have different ideas on that.  If you're OK with what would happen to Lauren Boebert's grandchild being aborted, what would specifically happen to that grandchild, and would you be OK if that happened to you?

I hate this line cause it assumes the other person a) wants to be here and b) believes the same as you

People that advocate for abortions are very unlikely to believe life begins at conception and damnit why do conservatives assume everyone wants to be be born into this world. It’s a whack place.

[Joe Kakistocracy]

This hasn't been an abortion thread.  Just as it wasn't a Hunter Biden thread either.  I know it's tempting to keep following Old Man Yells At Cloud on his frequent thread derailments, but it's better not to.

Fuzzy Bear is so good at derailing threads, he could probably get a job working for Norfolk Southern.

[pppolitics]

I hope the Boeberts don't pressure the 15 year-old one way or another on whether to keep it.

I would hope someone would.  That unborn child is a human being.

Where would you be now if YOU were aborted?  That's a serious question.  I'm not being snarky, but I'm asking you to consider something that's pretty deep; namely, the question of the Death of the Body and Eternity.  What do YOU believe?.  Lots of people have different ideas on that.  If you're OK with what would happen to Lauren Boebert's grandchild being aborted, what would specifically happen to that grandchild, and would you be OK if that happened to you?

What a stupid question.

A human fetus is no different than any animal fetus.

What make someone "a person" is a product of human society.

It is impossible to abort "a person" because the person would have never existed.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I hope the Boeberts don't pressure the 15 year-old one way or another on whether to keep it.

I would hope someone would.  That unborn child is a human being.

Where would you be now if YOU were aborted?  That's a serious question.  I'm not being snarky, but I'm asking you to consider something that's pretty deep; namely, the question of the Death of the Body and Eternity.  What do YOU believe?.  Lots of people have different ideas on that.  If you're OK with what would happen to Lauren Boebert's grandchild being aborted, what would specifically happen to that grandchild, and would you be OK if that happened to you?

Then I wouldn't exist, and therefore wouldn't have a view on this.

Is that the fate of all who die, or just the unborn?

Again:  I'm serious here.  Issues like this are things that should be thought all the way through.

[100% pro-choice no matter what]

I hope the Boeberts don't pressure the 15 year-old one way or another on whether to keep it.

I would hope someone would.  That unborn child is a human being.

Where would you be now if YOU were aborted?  That's a serious question.  I'm not being snarky, but I'm asking you to consider something that's pretty deep; namely, the question of the Death of the Body and Eternity.  What do YOU believe?.  Lots of people have different ideas on that.  If you're OK with what would happen to Lauren Boebert's grandchild being aborted, what would specifically happen to that grandchild, and would you be OK if that happened to you?

Then I wouldn't exist, and therefore wouldn't have a view on this.

Is that the fate of all who die, or just the unborn?

Again:  I'm serious here.  Issues like this are things that should be thought all the way through.

Consciousness and sentience is a serious philosophical issue, one that I am not qualified to answer.

Also, as many as 30% of pregnancies end in miscarriages, so I find it hard to believe that G-d kills millions of people every year.

[Ferguson97]

There's just no scenario where a 15-year-old and 17-year-old suddenly having to raise a baby is in their best interest.

[Drop Billionaires, Not Bombs]

Teen parents aren't so unusual in rural families where college education is rare. I can speak from personal experience. My father's family came from rural Iowa, and I'm one of the few in the family with a college degree. My father was a grandfather at 36 (when I was 3), a great-grandfather at 54, and a great-great-grandfather at 69. At a family wedding in 2005 I took a picture that included all 5 generations.

For a much more problematic-by-modern-standards example: my grandmother's parents came to the United States from the Kraków area of war-torn Poland. My great-grandmother started having kids at age 14 with her 27-year-old husband. They were also farmers by trade and, of course, lacking in formal education. Based on the way my mom would tell the story, this was not actually all that unusual for late 19th/early 20th century immigrants (although Al's post did get me thinking...). What the Matt Walsh's of the world don't care to understand is that our understanding of child psychology is appreciably different from back then.

[Figueira]

This is a great example of how people will use dumb arguments to attack politicians even when there's much better material out there.