Alleged sovereign citizen killed by police during traffic stop in Utah
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2023, 12:31:23 PM »

Breonna Taylor's murder could have jumpstarted real legislation to crack down on bad cops, but the fentanyl death of George Floyd and the subsequent BLM riots ruined the movement.

Do you have some weird need to take Ls regularly, in the way that everybody needs to eat food regularly, or something? Christ.
It's true.
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2023, 05:48:24 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2023, 05:51:49 PM by Your False god Won't Save You »

Breonna Taylor's murder could have jumpstarted real legislation to crack down on bad cops, but the fentanyl death of George Floyd and the subsequent BLM riots ruined the movement.

Do you have some weird need to take Ls regularly, in the way that everybody needs to eat food regularly, or something? Christ.

The Pieman is an unemployed troll living off of other people's charity. The ignore feature is your friend.
I got accepted into my first job today, also I 100% believe everything I say. Just because I disagree with you it doesn't mean I'm disingenuous. Best to stay away from as hominem attacks next time.

If you're a day older than 16 then I am absolutely not impressed, at all, that you're just now getting a job. Plus I don't believe you.
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2023, 05:57:51 PM »

This is sickening. Colourblind police reform is needed and cops need to be held responsible. Breonna Taylor's murder could have jumpstarted real legislation to crack down on bad cops, but the fentanyl death of George Floyd and the subsequent BLM riots ruined the movement.

What does race have to do this particular incident?
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2023, 05:59:42 PM »

From footage I've seen of "sovereign citizens" at traffic stops, it's not shocking at all to me that one would f--k up enough to get shot justifiably.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2023, 07:48:40 PM »

I need to know, and I do mean I NEED to know, why people continue to think this sovereign citizen BS would ever work. What fake evidence are they presented with that suggest it works? What lies are they told of the supposed successes of sovereign citizens? How is it not overwhelmingly clear to them this is just a waste of time and will just get them in more trouble?

I think you misunderstand their intentions. They know it won't work. They are deliberately looking for a confrontation.
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2023, 07:52:15 PM »

I'd rather see a bodycam from one of the officers who showed up later since there's no clear view of if he reached for the holster or not in this one, but one of the closer officers would show it.

Still not feeling sorry for this guy for obvious reasons though.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2023, 08:21:48 PM »

Breonna Taylor's murder could have jumpstarted real legislation to crack down on bad cops, but the fentanyl death of George Floyd and the subsequent BLM riots ruined the movement.

Do you have some weird need to take Ls regularly, in the way that everybody needs to eat food regularly, or something? Christ.

The Pieman is an unemployed troll living off of other people's charity. The ignore feature is your friend.
I got accepted into my first job today, also I 100% believe everything I say. Just because I disagree with you it doesn't mean I'm disingenuous. Best to stay away from as hominem attacks next time.

If you're a day older than 16 then I am absolutely not impressed, at all, that you're just now getting a job. Plus I don't believe you.

Remember when you called yourself a warrior against cyber bullying? I guess that warrior in you was shot down huh.

At least Santander has a reason to be condescending, what do you have?

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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2023, 08:36:44 PM »

Breonna Taylor's murder could have jumpstarted real legislation to crack down on bad cops, but the fentanyl death of George Floyd and the subsequent BLM riots ruined the movement.

Do you have some weird need to take Ls regularly, in the way that everybody needs to eat food regularly, or something? Christ.

The Pieman is an unemployed troll living off of other people's charity. The ignore feature is your friend.
I got accepted into my first job today, also I 100% believe everything I say. Just because I disagree with you it doesn't mean I'm disingenuous. Best to stay away from as hominem attacks next time.

If you're a day older than 16 then I am absolutely not impressed, at all, that you're just now getting a job. Plus I don't believe you.

Remember when you called yourself a warrior against cyber bullying? I guess that warrior in you was shot down huh.

At least Santander has a reason to be condescending, what do you have?


Lol.
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2023, 09:55:23 AM »
« Edited: March 11, 2023, 10:02:20 AM by Meclazine »

The victim was a belligerent who was allegedly holding a gun as Police opened the door.

The US constitution does afford you protection during a traffic stop. It must be done quickly and once satisfactory information has been provided, you are free to go.

If at some point, you are detained and simultaneously refuse to obey instructions and then hold a gun in your hand, your legal status changes from detained to armed suspect. Given your previous beloherance, there is a fair chance you are about to be shot by Police.

Given the speed at which situations develop, it is almost impossible for me Police to pinpoint (and I can't do it) when your legal protections evaporated. This is one of the fastest situations I have witnessed.

Firstly, a lot of Americans don't like being detained, and I believe that the sovereign citizen bs is being hijacked to avoid this outcome.

Secondly, I believe it was a very bad outcome for Mr Chase and that neighbourhood. Regardless of how it evolved, it should not have resulted with Mr Chase's death even though he brought a lot of it on himself.
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