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« on: March 05, 2023, 08:02:18 PM »

Did COVID as an issue help Democrats or Republicans more?
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2023, 08:32:24 PM »

Well republicans were assaulting people who wore masks and called the whole thing a hoax while advising you to inject bleach. So there’s that.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2023, 09:47:44 PM »

Republicans in 2021, but by 2022 around 700,000 Republicans had refused vaccination to spite Biden and then died from COVID, and their absence was noticeable in the 2022 results.

So Democrats on balance, and the effect is likely to be visible for years.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2023, 09:53:37 PM »

Republicans because the Democrats miscalculated Covid lockdownism whereas Republicans were right from the beginning that 1) it wouldn't work, and 2) it wasn't worth the cost. Add the fact that the Democrats own-goaled themselves by going from banning anyone who said it leaked from a lab on social media as a conspiracy theorist, to suggesting it was a likely theory, purely due to changes in politics. 3-0 Republican.
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2023, 11:40:24 PM »

Democrats in 2020, Republicans in 2021.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 01:20:19 AM »

Democrats in 2020, Republicans after.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 07:42:35 AM »

That's a good question. Democrats win this one because vaccinations worked really well.

As a result, i thought the Republicans were left a little exposed to illogical Facebook conspiracies on this one.

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2023, 09:17:31 AM »

Democrats, because tackling an issue such as a pandemic requires logic and reason over bible thumping and chest pumping attention seeking.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2023, 09:20:23 AM »

In the long run it might help the Republicans though, because it gave them an issue to attract ordinary people not interested in politics to tie  their mast to the dudebro libertarian types in the GOP. As a result, they may have actually found a certain identity that can both unite their base and attract fresh voters, and you can clearly see how DeSantis is using the pandemic and how he kept things open as a fer de lance for his platform : its a policy people could actually feel in their day to day lives.

But Covid wrecked the Trump presidency and the Conservative post-truth media agenda.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2023, 09:21:18 AM »

this is one of those issues where the GOP stole a tradition from the Dems and snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2023, 09:43:41 AM »

D's it's a 303 map anyways
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2023, 09:56:29 AM »

Democrats in 2020, the GOP in 2021 and afterwards.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2023, 09:59:52 AM »

this is one of those issues where the GOP stole a tradition from the Dems and snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

What do you mean by this?
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2023, 10:06:36 AM »

this is one of those issues where the GOP stole a tradition from the Dems and snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

What do you mean by this?

If the GOP (especially Trump) had taken COVID more seriously, sent American flag masks to every home and grounded flights from China earlier, they would've won easily.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2023, 11:46:10 AM »

this is one of those issues where the GOP stole a tradition from the Dems and snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

What do you mean by this?
The Democrats have a history of losing elections and losing on issues that they should be winning.  Here is an article from 2006 calling it a myth.  Which it may very well be, but it is an established "thing".

The Democrats didn't do Covid very well, at least according to most Americans.  Could have been an easy "win" for the GOP.  But, with Trump at the helm, talking 'bout "can we inject light into people?", the anti-vax nonsense and general anti-science conspiracy bull spit was viewed as worse than the (maybe you could call it "low key"...I wouldn't but you might) Nanny State authoritarian most Democrats have been giving us.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2023, 12:16:27 PM »

I don't see how Trump DOESN'T get an EC victory in 2020 without Covid.

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2023, 12:19:44 PM »

this is one of those issues where the GOP stole a tradition from the Dems and snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

What do you mean by this?
The Democrats have a history of losing elections and losing on issues that they should be winning.  Here is an article from 2006 calling it a myth.  Which it may very well be, but it is an established "thing".

The Democrats didn't do Covid very well, at least according to most Americans.  Could have been an easy "win" for the GOP.  But, with Trump at the helm, talking 'bout "can we inject light into people?", the anti-vax nonsense and general anti-science conspiracy bull spit was viewed as worse than the (maybe you could call it "low key"...I wouldn't but you might) Nanny State authoritarian most Democrats have been giving us.

Makes sense.  Being the side that responds more aggressively to a crisis normally helps you in the short run and hurts you a bit in the long run as people want to move on. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2023, 12:28:03 PM »

It's an odd one. Hurt Trump because of his incompetent response to the initial crisis, but then helped the Republicans as a whole because of the issue of extended blue-state closures.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2023, 12:32:58 PM »

Republicans because the Democrats miscalculated Covid lockdownism whereas Republicans were right from the beginning that 1) it wouldn't work, and 2) it wasn't worth the cost. Add the fact that the Democrats own-goaled themselves by going from banning anyone who said it leaked from a lab on social media as a conspiracy theorist, to suggesting it was a likely theory, purely due to changes in politics. 3-0 Republican.
Oh f**k no. Are you gonna be spewing this s**t when you spent the first half of Covid talking about how bad it is and how it would devastate society for eons?
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2023, 12:34:19 PM »

Anyways it helped Dems in 2020, Republicans in 2021…and then honestly had little impact by 2022. So on the net Dems only because there were more elections in 2020.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2023, 02:24:19 PM »

Republicans because the Democrats miscalculated Covid lockdownism whereas Republicans were right from the beginning that 1) it wouldn't work, and 2) it wasn't worth the cost. Add the fact that the Democrats own-goaled themselves by going from banning anyone who said it leaked from a lab on social media as a conspiracy theorist, to suggesting it was a likely theory, purely due to changes in politics. 3-0 Republican.
Oh f**k no. Are you gonna be spewing this s**t when you spent the first half of Covid talking about how bad it is and how it would devastate society for eons?

Well it was and is pretty f-ing bad. When it first started this other poster was claiming it would be no worse than SARS and people were upvoting his replies to me and acting like I was just dooming for saying this was going to be the big pandemic. I was right about that.

But the Republicans were more right about many things. I remember in late 2020, I was still in lockdown mode, hardly even going out, when a conservative coworker of mine casually threw out "everyone is going to get it." And I thought, you're crazy. But it turns out he was right. I'm still surprised I've never tested positive yet and that's probably only because I had the asymptomatic version.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2023, 03:00:06 PM »

Democrats in 2020, Republicans in 2021.

Agreed, though I'd specifiy and say Republicans only in the time since fall 2021. Biden actually had a positive approval on handling of the pandemic for the longest time among all issues.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2023, 03:02:14 PM »

Let's add it up.
For the Democrats, it likely made the difference winning them the presidency and therefore the Senate in 2020.
For Republicans, it got them a state trifecta in Virginia and maybe the Nevada governorship.

This is in no way an even trade.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2023, 03:27:45 PM »

Let's add it up.
For the Democrats, it likely made the difference winning them the presidency and therefore the Senate in 2020.
For Republicans, it got them a state trifecta in Virginia and maybe the Nevada governorship.

This is in no way an even trade.

I would be very mad to if I had kids and schools were closed for months for no reason.

The amount of non-chain businesses in NoVa is notable. If Northam did not allow some openings in Summer of 2020 the 2020 results in VA would have been different.

Sisolak was absolutely wrong to close casinos down. The economy being strong was always more important than making sure no one ever gets sick.

I do think the following are true at the same time:

1) Biden won because of covid.

and

2) Covid really made the Trump people come out and save a lot of Republicans and get Trump closer than expected.

If covid never happened, Trump would have still had an uphill battle.
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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2023, 08:56:16 PM »

Republicans in 2021, but by 2022 around 700,000 Republicans had refused vaccination to spite Biden and then died from COVID, and their absence was noticeable in the 2022 results.

So Democrats on balance, and the effect is likely to be visible for years.

The only way you get this is by attributing 100% of covid deaths from 2021 and 2022 to Republicans.  In addition this being an extremely presumptuous and bigoted thing to say, it's also wrong (so par for the course for you!)  Rates of covid death remained higher for Black and Hispanic Americans in both 2021 and 2022.  
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