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« on: February 20, 2023, 07:51:33 PM »

The next GA which has been generally red is slowly showing signs of turning purple. When are we going to see the Magnolia State turn blue?
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2023, 07:57:34 PM »

What exactly makes it the next GA?
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2023, 08:31:08 PM »

Lmao nothing close to GA, there’s no Atlanta attracting young diverse people into MS, population is already racially polarized and if the gop makes even small inroads with black men it’s a wrap for the dems in ms for decades
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2023, 09:44:58 PM »

MS Democrats have a high floor because of its large black population. Mississippi has long suffered from brain drain and corruption for over a century. There isn't much innovation, economic development, or any sign of trying to attract anything to the state.
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2023, 03:52:33 AM »

Higher chance of the Midwest being solid R than MS being solid D.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2023, 11:38:57 AM »

When there's a radical party realignment and Republicans start winning New Jersey. Under the current party system, never. The GOP wins it by comfortable margins currently, exit polls show that every age group voted for Trump, migration into the state is generally conservative/migration out is generally liberal, and white Mississippians (which is still 90% Republican), has more kids than black Mississippians.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2023, 12:04:33 PM »

Not until whites starting voting more Democratic (only 18% there voted for Biden) and/or more Democratic leaning voters move into the state.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2023, 12:37:06 PM »

Not until whites starting voting more Democratic (only 18% there voted for Biden) and/or more Democratic leaning voters move into the state.

It's closer to 10%, the 2020 exit poll substantially underestimated black turnout. MS has basically zero attractive industries for liberal professionals, so white immigration to MS is mostly conservative retirees.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2023, 01:56:24 PM »

I'm really not seeing it.  If NC and SC rurals have room to get more R, there's no path in MS.  There will at some point be a Dem governor out of step with the national party, but otherwise forget it. 

LA maybe has more potential with the creatives drawn to NOLA, but it's still hard and the cities are too small to withstand any further R improvement with the rural black vote.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2023, 08:21:13 AM »

MS Democrats have a high floor because of its large black population. Mississippi has long suffered from brain drain and corruption for over a century. There isn't much innovation, economic development, or any sign of trying to attract anything to the state.
And make no mistake, they (the old guard good ole boy network) plan on keeping it that way.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2023, 01:11:12 PM »

Mississippi is not the next Georgia.

Georgia, particularly Atlanta, is the new Mecca of black culture in America, basically what Harlem was 100 years ago. There's a significant college-educated black middle class with heavy political clout, compared to Mississippi where most black people are still very economically deprived. Beyond that, Atlanta is an attractive destination for young, college-educated people of all races. Mississippi is not.

Really the only way Mississippi turns blue is:

1. The state becomes majority-black, which is unlikely to happen as there is no significant influx of black people, nor is there a significant white flight out of the state.

2. White Mississippians start voting Democrat at higher rates. Considering that white Mississippians are more solidly Republican than white people in basically every other state, this is a tall order. I guess it could happen if the GOP nominates someone who declares himself pro-choice and a supporter of gun control, but that ain't gonna happen.

3. Mississippi sees a huge tech boom. This is the least implausible of the three scenarios, and even then, it's very implausible.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2023, 11:44:07 PM »

With the degree of racial polarization in the state, there are very few swing voters here and thus it is very difficult to tell when the state will flip politically. However, a letter written by a political strategist a few years ago indicated that under current political conditions, Democrats' best places to make significant gains are suburban areas in and around major cities (e.g. the suburbs around Gulfport, Hattiesburg, Jackson, Memphis, etc.). It should be noted that although white voters with higher education vote more Republican in MS compared to most other places around the country, the Democratic vote share among this voting bloc is still higher than among white voters without higher education.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2023, 07:59:59 PM »

With the degree of racial polarization in the state, there are very few swing voters here and thus it is very difficult to tell when the state will flip politically. However, a letter written by a political strategist a few years ago indicated that under current political conditions, Democrats' best places to make significant gains are suburban areas in and around major cities (e.g. the suburbs around Gulfport, Hattiesburg, Jackson, Memphis, etc.). It should be noted that although white voters with higher education vote more Republican in MS compared to most other places around the country, the Democratic vote share among this voting bloc is still higher than among white voters without higher education.
The fastest growing areas of MS are the suburbs of Memphis like Southaven and Olive Branch. These places are also very far right. These are mcmansions trying to escape "crime".

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 07:19:47 PM »

1. Mass miscegenation.

2. Poor white people deciding that they have more in common politically with poor black people than with rich white people.

3.a large influx of Hispanics.

Mississippi politics is tribal in the extreme, with machine politics in the tiniest bailiwicks; such promotes incompetence and corruption that decides who gets government goodies (including contracts). In a state that poor and with comparatively few alternatives, that ensures political tribalism.

The solution to corruption, cronyism, and incompetence is to vote the bastards out. Missippians don't do things that way.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2023, 07:41:03 PM »

It's already turning blue not at Fed level but at state level when Presley and Beshear win
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