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« on: February 11, 2023, 12:32:38 AM »

Let's say Trump does decide to run in 2012 (as was being speculated then), and Obama beats him.

Who does this change things from 2016-present?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2023, 07:54:18 PM »

Depending on how well the Republicans put themselves back together after Trump, Rubio probably drinks the poisoned chalice in 2016 and loses 2020 to Not Biden Or Sanders.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2023, 12:31:10 AM »

Do you feel like the Republican Party's MAGA branch would have been pre-emptively taken out?
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2023, 07:10:04 AM »

Do you feel like the Republican Party's MAGA branch would have been pre-emptively taken out?
If he didn't win, it would be viewed as a massive loss and his wing would be decimated. It depends on if Trump wins some states like PA, MI or WI making a case for his wing or if he loses by more than Romney.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2023, 10:37:56 AM »

Do you feel like the Republican Party's MAGA branch would have been pre-emptively taken out?

Trump specifically might lose steam, but the trend toward national-populism had been going on before and would continue after. This doesn't suddenly make the old Republican establishment popular or relevant again if that's what you're getting at. Someone emerges to captivate the grassroots conservatives that seized power after 2008.
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