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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2021, 04:08:14 PM »

I still donít understand how virtually everyone (except Trafalgar) botched this race so badly. Even the RGAís internals apparently never showed a particularly close race.

And it wasnít just pollsters. Cook always had the race at Safe D.

Yes, weíre beginning to see a pattern in which polls are underestimating Republicans even in states in which they have historically been very accurate (NJ) or have tended to underestimate Democrats (NV, AZ, TX). This is quite a remarkable development, and I donít think itís ever been as uniform or pronounced as today. If (college) education and (to a lesser extent) income become better determinants of electoral outcomes than race or even geography and the GOP keeps running up margins among working-class, non-college-educated voters (while winning over more non-white voters of those same groups), I donít expect this to improve any time soon. There are probably other factors as well which contribute to this ó Iím by no means an expert on polling, but I suspect the Democratic base having become more politically engaged than during any decade I can remember has something to do with it. Itís also never been more 'socially accepted' to be a Democrat/liberal than today (see, e.g., the increasing equation of science/reason with liberalism), and it seems like pollsters are having serious trouble reaching less 'traditional' Republican voters (Ann Selzer has addressed this quite extensively). It wasnít that long ago when the 'landline bias' was working in the Republicans' favor, but I think this has changed dramatically.

A big part of the issue is that public pollsters have started trying to only survey modeled ďlikely voter universesĒ (which is what internal pollsters do) and they are absolutely horrible at it. Selzer has maintained her strength because she specifically and vocally avoids doing this.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2021, 04:25:32 PM »

I still donít understand how virtually everyone (except Trafalgar) botched this race so badly. Even the RGAís internals apparently never showed a particularly close race.

And it wasnít just pollsters. Cook always had the race at Safe D.

Yes, weíre beginning to see a pattern in which polls are underestimating Republicans even in states in which they have historically been very accurate (NJ) or have tended to underestimate Democrats (NV, AZ, TX). This is quite a remarkable development, and I donít think itís ever been as uniform or pronounced as today. If (college) education and (to a lesser extent) income become better determinants of electoral outcomes than race or even geography and the GOP keeps running up margins among working-class, non-college-educated voters (while winning over more non-white voters of those same groups), I donít expect this to improve any time soon. There are probably other factors as well which contribute to this ó Iím by no means an expert on polling, but I suspect the Democratic base having become more politically engaged than during any decade I can remember has something to do with it. Itís also never been more 'socially accepted' to be a Democrat/liberal than today (see, e.g., the increasing equation of science/reason with liberalism), and it seems like pollsters are having serious trouble reaching less 'traditional' Republican voters (Ann Selzer has addressed this quite extensively). It wasnít that long ago when the 'landline bias' was working in the Republicans' favor, but I think this has changed dramatically.

It's a Black and Brown and Female Election, Rs are confused who won 80 M votes to 74 M we didn't have Fed candidate on the ballot got US H or Senate like in 2029 and Rs are blockading VR reform and Suppression of vote
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2021, 04:26:45 PM »

I still donít understand how virtually everyone (except Trafalgar) botched this race so badly. Even the RGAís internals apparently never showed a particularly close race.

And it wasnít just pollsters. Cook always had the race at Safe D.

Yes, weíre beginning to see a pattern in which polls are underestimating Republicans even in states in which they have historically been very accurate (NJ) or have tended to underestimate Democrats (NV, AZ, TX). This is quite a remarkable development, and I donít think itís ever been as uniform or pronounced as today. If (college) education and (to a lesser extent) income become better determinants of electoral outcomes than race or even geography and the GOP keeps running up margins among working-class, non-college-educated voters (while winning over more non-white voters of those same groups), I donít expect this to improve any time soon. There are probably other factors as well which contribute to this ó Iím by no means an expert on polling, but I suspect the Democratic base having become more politically engaged than during any decade I can remember has something to do with it. Itís also never been more 'socially accepted' to be a Democrat/liberal than today (see, e.g., the increasing equation of science/reason with liberalism), and it seems like pollsters are having serious trouble reaching less 'traditional' Republican voters (Ann Selzer has addressed this quite extensively). It wasnít that long ago when the 'landline bias' was working in the Republicans' favor, but I think this has changed dramatically.

A big part of the issue is that public pollsters have started trying to only survey modeled ďlikely voter universesĒ (which is what internal pollsters do) and they are absolutely horrible at it. Selzer has maintained her strength because she specifically and vocally avoids doing this.

There were no H or Senate Candidates on thee ballot and poll nailed the Cali Recall, we will have a higher turnout in 22)24
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2021, 04:32:37 PM »

Stop with the Dr OZ is gonna beat Fetterman he's not it's the worse care scenario for D's a 304 map If Biden was at 25 percent Dr OZ don't have the support with J Shapiro to win in blue Pa
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