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« on: February 01, 2023, 11:17:43 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2023, 11:18:28 AM »

You mean DeSantis +18
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2023, 11:20:54 AM »

Yep, fixed
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2023, 11:27:45 AM »

If there's one region where Desantis will clean up, it's the South. I'm of the opinion that Desantis will have a clean sweep of every southern state.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2023, 11:29:35 AM »

If there's one region where Desantis will clean up, it's the South. I'm of the opinion that Desantis will have a clean sweep of every southern state.

Well maybe not MS and AR
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2023, 11:38:48 AM »

If there's one region where Desantis will clean up, it's the South. I'm of the opinion that Desantis will have a clean sweep of every southern state.

Well maybe not MS and AR
Why not MS? The republican base there is probably not too different from AL.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2023, 11:54:31 AM »

If there's one region where Desantis will clean up, it's the South. I'm of the opinion that Desantis will have a clean sweep of every southern state.

Well maybe not MS and AR
Why not MS? The republican base there is probably not too different from AL.

The GOP base is far more affluent in AL
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2023, 02:58:50 PM »

Is that pollster credible? Never heard of. Could be some Republican donor firm to push a narrative.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2023, 04:19:45 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2023, 04:41:00 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

No, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the only people on this forum pretending that DeSantis can’t win/beat Trump in a primary are all Democrats.
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2023, 04:44:26 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

No, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the only people on this forum pretending that DeSantis can’t win/beat Trump in a primary are all Democrats.
It's not that he can't. He won't. I don't buy the hype.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2023, 04:45:51 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

No, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the only people on this forum pretending that DeSantis can’t win/beat Trump in a primary are all Democrats.
It's not that he can't. He won't. I don't buy the hype.

We know you don’t, and we all know why you don’t.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2023, 05:32:29 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

No, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the only people on this forum pretending that DeSantis can’t win/beat Trump in a primary are all Democrats.
It's not that he can't. He won't. I don't buy the hype.

We know you don’t, and we all know why you don’t.
I think DeSantis is popular among certain demographics but I think he's untested outside of the Sun Belt and will fail to get enough support in the midwest, northwest and northeast. I'm not saying he's certain to fail, I just think he's overhyped.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2023, 05:44:17 PM »

Hahahahahahahaaha

the acronym of this pollster

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2023, 11:18:51 PM »

Is that pollster credible? Never heard of. Could be some Republican donor firm to push a narrative.

It is a Republican donor firm, which you would know if you had been poll-watching for a while, but at the same time if you had you would know that polls of every category (Republican donors/Democratic donors/neither) have shown DeSantis landslides and Trump landslides.

(Also, the way you can tell polls are meant to promote a narrative is if they show the candidate who paid for them narrowly down, such that they probably lose but you can save them by donating, or if they ask issue questions, particularly issue questions where something relevant to that issue happened recently so numbers are likely to be temporarily skewed. 'Some candidate somewhere is crushing some other candidate somewhere' is virtually never meant to promote a narrative.)
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2023, 01:05:14 AM »

He still wins in a 9 way race.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2023, 08:30:57 AM »

Is that pollster credible? Never heard of. Could be some Republican donor firm to push a narrative.

It is a Republican donor firm, which you would know if you had been poll-watching for a while, but at the same time if you had you would know that polls of every category (Republican donors/Democratic donors/neither) have shown DeSantis landslides and Trump landslides.

(Also, the way you can tell polls are meant to promote a narrative is if they show the candidate who paid for them narrowly down, such that they probably lose but you can save them by donating, or if they ask issue questions, particularly issue questions where something relevant to that issue happened recently so numbers are likely to be temporarily skewed. 'Some candidate somewhere is crushing some other candidate somewhere' is virtually never meant to promote a narrative.)

It's not a "donor firm" (I've never heard this term used before and don't know what it's supposed to mean) - it is a polling firm that works for Republican candidates and groups (including whoever likely paid for this poll). We've partnered with them on bipartisan surveys many times before and they do good work.
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2023, 08:42:27 AM »


When a deep red pro Trump state is +18 for DeSantis, that's a bad sign for orange man! Not questioning you but is this a trustworthy pollster?
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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2023, 10:01:34 AM »

All these R-primary polls are so inconsistent, makes them pretty much worthless at this stage. That said, I don't think this one is remotely accurate. Trump is and remains the frontrunner.
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2023, 12:28:12 PM »

Is that pollster credible? Never heard of. Could be some Republican donor firm to push a narrative.

It is a Republican donor firm, which you would know if you had been poll-watching for a while, but at the same time if you had you would know that polls of every category (Republican donors/Democratic donors/neither) have shown DeSantis landslides and Trump landslides.

(Also, the way you can tell polls are meant to promote a narrative is if they show the candidate who paid for them narrowly down, such that they probably lose but you can save them by donating, or if they ask issue questions, particularly issue questions where something relevant to that issue happened recently so numbers are likely to be temporarily skewed. 'Some candidate somewhere is crushing some other candidate somewhere' is virtually never meant to promote a narrative.)

It's not a "donor firm" (I've never heard this term used before and don't know what it's supposed to mean) - it is a polling firm that works for Republican candidates and groups (including whoever likely paid for this poll). We've partnered with them on bipartisan surveys many times before and they do good work.

It is a firm whose clients tend to be Republican politicians, and in particular fairly non-Trumpy ones. 'Donor firm' is kind of an odd turn of phrase but that's obviously what is meant, and there's no particular use denying it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2023, 02:46:30 PM »

All these R-primary polls are so inconsistent, makes them pretty much worthless at this stage. That said, I don't think this one is remotely accurate. Trump is and remains the frontrunner.

What makes the Trump-friendly ones more reliable then?
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2023, 03:57:40 PM »

Is that pollster credible? Never heard of. Could be some Republican donor firm to push a narrative.

It is a Republican donor firm, which you would know if you had been poll-watching for a while, but at the same time if you had you would know that polls of every category (Republican donors/Democratic donors/neither) have shown DeSantis landslides and Trump landslides.

(Also, the way you can tell polls are meant to promote a narrative is if they show the candidate who paid for them narrowly down, such that they probably lose but you can save them by donating, or if they ask issue questions, particularly issue questions where something relevant to that issue happened recently so numbers are likely to be temporarily skewed. 'Some candidate somewhere is crushing some other candidate somewhere' is virtually never meant to promote a narrative.)

It's not a "donor firm" (I've never heard this term used before and don't know what it's supposed to mean) - it is a polling firm that works for Republican candidates and groups (including whoever likely paid for this poll). We've partnered with them on bipartisan surveys many times before and they do good work.

It is a firm whose clients tend to be Republican politicians, and in particular fairly non-Trumpy ones. 'Donor firm' is kind of an odd turn of phrase but that's obviously what is meant, and there's no particular use denying it.

Sorry if my post came off combative - that wasn't how I meant it but I do see that it could be read that way. I was trying to add context and vouch for the pollster.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2023, 01:32:40 PM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

No, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the only people on this forum pretending that DeSantis can’t win/beat Trump in a primary are all Democrats.

Just as I'm sure it's a coincidence that all the people that think DeSantis can beat Trump are the people who got 2022 wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2023, 10:32:35 AM »

If there's one region where Desantis will clean up, it's the South. I'm of the opinion that Desantis will have a clean sweep of every southern state.

Well maybe not MS and AR
Why not MS? The republican base there is probably not too different from AL.

The GOP base is far more affluent in AL

Ignorant.  Is a difference of less than $1,000/yr that meaningful?  LOL

Median incomes for White households (2021):

AL:  $51,345
MS:  $50,525
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2023, 10:37:28 AM »

Terrible poll for Trump, but not at all surprising. I don’t these results should be surprising when some of his biggest supporters on this board are Democrats who learned all the wrong lessons from 2016 and 2020.

DeSantis hasn't even announced for Prez yet and Desantis is overrated he is losing to Biden neverless about NV which underestimate D support

Yea we learned the wrong lessons of 2016/20 but if that was the case Obama won 2008/12
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