90 years ago, You Know Who became the chancellor of Germany
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2023, 08:28:57 AM »

The communists also refused to work with even the SPD because the SPD killed the communists in 1919 .

That wasn't the reason. It was even stupider than that.
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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2023, 03:18:52 PM »

Today 90 years ago the Nazis passed the Enabling Act, which paved the way towards a dictorship. The SPD was the only party in the Reichstag that voted against. Many SPD lawmakers were subsquently thrown in jail or murdered.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2023, 12:09:05 AM »

Today 90 years ago the Nazis passed the Enabling Act, which paved the way towards a dictorship. The SPD was the only party in the Reichstag that voted against. Many SPD lawmakers were subsquently thrown in jail or murdered.

And 90 years ago today, the Ermächtigungsgesetz (officially: "Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich") became effective.
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2023, 10:03:35 AM »

It's potentially stupid question on the Enabling Act: Didn't the prez have a veto power at the time? Why did Hindenburg sign such a law that basically abolishes the legislative branch? Even in a ceremonial presidency, the head of state is usually a check to examine constitutionality of laws presented to him. He apparently wasn't a nazi himself and defeated Hitler in the 1932 election, but why was he so passive? Did Hitler blackmail him? Isn't that something that lately doomed his historical image?
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2023, 05:49:16 PM »

It's potentially stupid question on the Enabling Act: Didn't the prez have a veto power at the time? Why did Hindenburg sign such a law that basically abolishes the legislative branch? Even in a ceremonial presidency, the head of state is usually a check to examine constitutionality of laws presented to him. He apparently wasn't a nazi himself and defeated Hitler in the 1932 election, but why was he so passive? Did Hitler blackmail him? Isn't that something that lately doomed his historical image?

Apparently he thought he could hold him in check by just firing him if things got out of hand .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_von_Hindenburg

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An Enabling Act was prepared that transferred law-making from the Reichstag to the government, even if the new laws violated the constitution. With the Communist deputies and many Social Democrats kept out of the chamber (in violation of Articles 36 and 37 of the constitution), the Reichstag passed the act with well more than the needed two-thirds majority, effectively ending the Republic. As it turned out, that meeting took place in such an intimidating atmosphere that the Enabling Act would have garnered the required supermajority even with all deputies present and voting.[citation needed]

During 1933 and 1934, Hitler was very aware that Hindenburg was the only check on his power. With the passage of the Enabling Act and the banning of all parties except the Nazis, Hindenburg's power to sack the chancellor was the only means by which Hitler could be legally removed from office. Given that Hindenburg was still a popular war hero and a revered figure in the Reichswehr, there was little doubt that the Reichswehr would side with Hindenburg if he ever decided to sack Hitler.

Basically he turned out to be a useful idiot too
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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2023, 03:14:42 PM »

It's potentially stupid question on the Enabling Act: Didn't the prez have a veto power at the time? Why did Hindenburg sign such a law that basically abolishes the legislative branch? Even in a ceremonial presidency, the head of state is usually a check to examine constitutionality of laws presented to him. He apparently wasn't a nazi himself and defeated Hitler in the 1932 election, but why was he so passive? Did Hitler blackmail him? Isn't that something that lately doomed his historical image?

Apparently he thought he could hold him in check by just firing him if things got out of hand .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_von_Hindenburg

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An Enabling Act was prepared that transferred law-making from the Reichstag to the government, even if the new laws violated the constitution. With the Communist deputies and many Social Democrats kept out of the chamber (in violation of Articles 36 and 37 of the constitution), the Reichstag passed the act with well more than the needed two-thirds majority, effectively ending the Republic. As it turned out, that meeting took place in such an intimidating atmosphere that the Enabling Act would have garnered the required supermajority even with all deputies present and voting.[citation needed]

During 1933 and 1934, Hitler was very aware that Hindenburg was the only check on his power. With the passage of the Enabling Act and the banning of all parties except the Nazis, Hindenburg's power to sack the chancellor was the only means by which Hitler could be legally removed from office. Given that Hindenburg was still a popular war hero and a revered figure in the Reichswehr, there was little doubt that the Reichswehr would side with Hindenburg if he ever decided to sack Hitler.

Basically he turned out to be a useful idiot too

Pretty much that. Hindenburg was also in his 80s and in failing health. He was definitely a useful idiot for the Nazis and I'm glad cities all over the country in most recent years started renaming streets that were initially named after him.
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