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« on: January 27, 2023, 12:11:45 PM »
« edited: January 27, 2023, 06:50:07 PM by khuzifenq »

Why MENA but not south Asians? I cant help but think Justin Amash being in the same grouping as me is much less weird than Chinese and Indians somehow being the same race.

I agree that South Asians should be split off from the broader Asian category (the word is used to mean East and Southeast in Colloquial American English) before MENA is split off from White/Caucasian. Race really is a social construct…
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2023, 02:09:25 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2023, 01:10:21 AM by khuzifenq »

@ the posters who oppose the implication that certain people aren’t “white”

Europeans have not integrated their refugees well, and refugees in Europe have done little on their own to become integrated.  You're both assholes.  Are there still countries that won't let their refugees get proper jobs?  Creating a permanent underclass, reliant on the dole is not a good way to get the refugees and the natives to play well together.

I'm not suggesting America is perfect at it, but we integrate ours far better and the refugees seem to take to it better.
Here in America, as long as you speak English, can work, and follow the laws you are welcome here. In Europe there is far more pressure to “assimilate” into a culture that is not anywhere near as “pure” as the edgelord ethnicity realist in here wants to believe, but really it’s just thinly disguised racism along with a desire for a permanent immigrant underclass.

TLDR: Europe is more racist than America, by a landslide
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2023, 12:36:11 AM »
« Edited: February 04, 2023, 12:42:10 AM by khuzifenq »

“Latino” should be replaced with “mestizo” IMO

Why? Not all culturally Hispanophone Latin America diasporans in the US identify as mestizo, nor would their ancestors in the motherland (to say nothing of Tejanos or Hispanos). Judging from online discussion of 23andMe test results it seems most Latin Americans are a mix of three continental ancestries, not two.



So Christian Arabs in this country have always been white. (I also haven't mentioned Jews, who have likewise always been white in this country.) The only Arabs who are regularly identified as something distinct from the white American majority are Muslim Arabs. When the NFL recognizes Robert Saleh as a minority coach even though nobody ever thought to do the same for Rich Kotite, that's because Saleh is Muslim and Kotite is not. This is an attempt to racialize the otherness felt by Muslim Arabs, and because Census guidelines can't make explicit reference to religion it also catches the vast majority of Arabs in this country: those not of Muslim ancestry. This would be a category that obscures (the observed whiteness of the enormous population of Americans of Christian Arab descent) far more than it illuminates (the observed non-whiteness of the smaller population of Americans of Muslim Arab descent).

The idea that Muslim Arabs are somehow a different race from Christian Arabs is as absurd as saying Pakistanis are racially Middle Eastern and not South Asian just because they have a different religion from their fellow Indo-Aryan speaking Hindu North Indians. Yes- race is a social construct and not necessarily based on national borders, geography, DNA, or language- but your average person probably wouldn’t consider Maronite Catholic and Sunni Lebanese to be of different races lmao. And they probably wouldn’t say Person A from Lahore is as physically or culturally different from Person B from Mumbai as they are from Person C in Ho Chi Minh City either.
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