Would the narrative that the US was fighting an unjust war in Vietnam
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« on: January 24, 2023, 10:41:01 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 05:50:11 AM »

Surely, no. The fact that a lot of (American) lives were lost for a goal that was ultimately not successful, I think drives a lot more of that reaction than how unjust it was for the other side or how the US would benefit from it in the end, which wasn't really too much.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2023, 12:17:27 AM »

Surely, no. The fact that a lot of (American) lives were lost for a goal that was ultimately not successful, I think drives a lot more of that reaction than how unjust it was for the other side or how the US would benefit from it in the end, which wasn't really too much.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2023, 03:49:22 AM »

Surely, no. The fact that a lot of (American) lives were lost for a goal that was ultimately not successful, I think drives a lot more of that reaction than how unjust it was for the other side or how the US would benefit from it in the end, which wasn't really too much.

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2023, 01:09:58 PM »
« Edited: February 15, 2023, 08:12:40 AM by LBJer »

I voted no, but only because of the "to the same extent" qualification in the question.  I think a significant number of people--both Americans themselves and others--would have still seen the war as unjust even if the U.S. had won it.  The U.S. won the 1846-48 war with Mexico, and that hasn't stopped many if not most people since (at least among those who have seriously looked into it) from seeing it as unjust.  And many considered it unjust even at the time.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2023, 01:24:59 AM »

     There are no lessons in victory, but a thousand in defeat. Nobody asks questions if things are going well.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2023, 09:05:06 AM »

The United States did win the war. It successfully defended South Vietnam's independence for 15 years. Next they'll be saying the US lost the Afghanistan war even though the Taliban collapsed in weeks.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2023, 01:35:29 PM »

The United States did win the war. It successfully defended South Vietnam's independence for 15 years. Next they'll be saying the US lost the Afghanistan war even though the Taliban collapsed in weeks.

Btw despite the fact that going into Afghanistan was justified and going into Iraq turned out not to be , by pure military definitions the US won the war.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2023, 03:51:46 PM »

     There are no lessons in victory, but a thousand in defeat. Nobody asks questions if things are going well.

"Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan."
-Guy in "The Sopranos"
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2023, 11:00:24 AM »

     There are no lessons in victory, but a thousand in defeat. Nobody asks questions if things are going well.

Pyrrhic Victory says hello.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2023, 03:38:01 AM »

It would seem as the same as the Korean War.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2023, 01:26:25 PM »

     There are no lessons in victory, but a thousand in defeat. Nobody asks questions if things are going well.

Pyrrhic Victory says hello.

     I don't think they had Pyrrhus in mind when they coined that saying. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2023, 03:38:51 AM »

Depends how quick and easy the victory was in this scenario, why exactly didn't South Vietnam fall?
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