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« on: January 06, 2023, 09:44:35 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2023, 10:05:52 AM »

Great 😊
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2023, 10:07:02 AM »

Likely or even Safe R still. No matter who joins it Hawley is going to win this race
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2023, 10:11:10 AM »
« Edited: January 06, 2023, 10:16:14 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Obama won in 2012 by 4 PVI and won all the swing states including OH, WV and guess what the PVI was in 22 it 0.5 D not 4

Our Senator always do well except 2002/2014/2018 since 2006 we have won the majority of Senate maps of course due to Gerrymandering RS have won 16/20 H maps but they aren't fave in 24 with only 5 seats in blue territory

Higher D turnout in Prez never say never, we are so close to a Filibuster proof Trifecta we should of gotten it in 22 if we won NY, VA, CA and Barnes and Ryan won

This takes heat off of must wins in TX and FL MO is now in play
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2023, 10:48:50 AM »

This was arguably always his endgame - first run was to build name ID and a fundraising base, but his rhetoric on the trail was almost exclusively attacking and contrasting with Hawley.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2023, 10:50:52 AM »

As I said before we can certainly win MO instead of defeat of Cruz and Scott, now MO is our wave insurance state no longer TX or FL

The MO Gov race is likely to go R, but Kunce can certainly win, Jay Ashcroft is likely the next GOV
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2023, 12:40:57 PM »

Yawn, Safe R. I can see him becoming a darling of gullible national liberals who will fund his campaign, though.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2023, 01:06:52 PM »

Yawn, Safe R. I can see him becoming a darling of gullible national liberals who will fund his campaign, though.


It's better than FL and TX we have 2 yrs before Eday

MO, TX and FL were always tough in 24 because all the D's are incumbent in the swing states unlike 22, but yes now MO is a best wave insurance seat
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2023, 02:43:00 PM »

He's going to run a pointless 1/6-themed campaign (notice the announcement date) that will go nowhere.

I'm more annoyed than anything. Hawley is not invulnerable, but this guy is going to throw it away so hard it'll probably make him stronger.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2023, 02:46:12 PM »

He's going to run a pointless 1/6-themed campaign (notice the announcement date) that will go nowhere.

I'm more annoyed than anything. Hawley is not invulnerable, but this guy is going to throw it away so hard it'll probably make him stronger.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2023, 04:09:06 PM »

He's going to run a pointless 1/6-themed campaign (notice the announcement date) that will go nowhere.

I'm more annoyed than anything. Hawley is not invulnerable, but this guy is going to throw it away so hard it'll probably make him stronger.


Do you know how close MO was the Senate race in 2016 it was 49/46 with Blunt v Kander it's wave insurance we don't have to win TX or FL, I am donating, no one has taken on Scott and TX is TX with Cruz
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2023, 04:13:08 PM »

The Hawley fist pic and the clip of him running in the capitol is literally gonna be the ENTIRETY of Kunce's campaign, and it's gonna be hilarious to watch.

Could he be the Marcus Flowers of 2024?
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2023, 04:14:53 PM »

The Hawley fist pic and the clip of him running in the capitol is literally gonna be the ENTIRETY of Kunce's campaign, and it's gonna be hilarious to watch.

Could he be the Marcus Flowers of 2024?

So he will surprisingly overperform despite running on no substance? Neat
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2023, 04:20:15 PM »

The Hawley fist pic and the clip of him running in the capitol is literally gonna be the ENTIRETY of Kunce's campaign, and it's gonna be hilarious to watch.

Could he be the Marcus Flowers of 2024?

So he will surprisingly overperform despite running on no substance? Neat

I meant in terms of resister support/money but ok
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2023, 04:25:53 PM »

In 2018 I oversaw mo sen discussion

2021 oversaw mo gov discussion

2024 colorado 3.

All three had and will have results obvious with hindsight

2024 mo sen will probably be GOP by 10
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2023, 07:04:15 PM »

He is probably the best we can do and may end up losing by less than if he ran in 2022 against Schmidt, but it is still a preordained safe R outcome.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2023, 07:16:44 PM »

Maybe if he makes this race close enough, Wagner's seat can finally flip.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2023, 07:24:21 PM »

Maybe if he makes this race close enough, Wagner's seat can finally flip.

One fun fact I find really surprising is that in 2022, MO-Sen topline and MO-02 voted nearly identically, and MO-02 was like within 4% on the Senate level. Ds had a surprisingly good night in Missouri with many legislative upsets snd idk fully why given Ds didn't rlly invest in the state in 2022.
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2023, 01:12:06 PM »

Looks like Kunce just picked up a big endorsement
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2023, 02:05:56 PM »

Ds had a surprisingly good night in Missouri with many legislative upsets snd idk fully why given Ds didn't rlly invest in the state in 2022.

Total abortion ban + trends are finally hitting Springfield.

Still doesn't explain the Senate result completely, though - there were quite a few districts that TBV won but that elected Republicans to the legislature. I remember being very confused on election night when the first two counties that were >95% had swung several points left from 2020.

The state as a whole is moving left now, independently of all this, extremely slowly.

Looks like Kunce just picked up a big endorsement


A surprisingly good ad, I was expecting two straight minutes of Hawley fist photo.
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2023, 02:21:34 PM »

Hawley will win comfortably and every Missourian should feel embarrassed for it.
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2023, 02:49:33 PM »

The goal should be to do well enough that Ann Wagner can be beaten. Lee Zeldin showed the way forward.
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2023, 03:01:10 PM »

Hawley by 20, and I liked Kunce.
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2023, 03:26:09 PM »


Trump only won Missouri by 15 points in 2020. I can’t see Hawley winning by more than that.
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2023, 04:27:54 PM »


Trump only won Missouri by 15 points in 2020. I can’t see Hawley winning by more than that.

If Ds seriously invested, it proly wouldn’t be that hard to get this within 10 in a good year. It’s actually getting over the finish which is very hard cause you’d have to break through in a lot of MO rurals
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