SB 112-52: Kansas Invasion Settlement Act (Passed)
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2022, 11:28:27 PM »

Just following orders....to screw the people of Kansas over!!!
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2022, 01:17:18 AM »

Just following orders....to screw the people of Kansas over!!!

The only people screwing them over are the Southern occupiers and imperialists.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2022, 03:11:22 AM »

Understood. So the audit board amendment is adopted. Not the amount changes though.

So uhhh can we get a vote?
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2022, 07:35:26 AM »

20 more hours to object to S019s motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2022, 08:04:45 AM »

Just following orders....to screw the people of Kansas over!!!

The lives of the people of Kansas, of all political affiliations, don't matter if you can own the cons. And if you have to instigate the death of a few DA'ers to do it, that's the cost of dictator...er...I mean..."democracy."
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2022, 10:22:43 AM »

20 more hours to object to S019s motion for a final vote.

I object.
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2022, 01:34:09 PM »

A cloture vote is now open on this bill lasting 72 hours or until everyone votes. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.
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« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2022, 01:34:34 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2022, 01:34:49 PM »

aye
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« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2022, 01:43:09 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2022, 02:04:29 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2022, 06:43:41 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2022, 06:45:55 PM »
« Edited: December 17, 2022, 06:53:38 PM by S019 »

20 more hours to object to S019s motion for a final vote.

Uhhh I was asking for a vote to override your frivolous declaration. That should be obvious based on the context. Very absurd that we have a PPT who deliberately disobeys the standing orders for partisan gain.

Anyways in case it isn't obvious, I never made any motion for a final vote, and withdraw it if the PPT somehow believes I did.
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2022, 07:03:19 PM »

20 more hours to object to S019s motion for a final vote.

Uhhh I was asking for a vote to override your frivolous declaration. That should be obvious based on the context. Very absurd that we have a PPT who deliberately disobeys the standing orders for partisan gain.

Anyways in case it isn't obvious, I never made any motion for a final vote, and withdraw it if the PPT somehow believes I did.

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The President Pro Tempore may in good faith remove amendments from consideration that are functionally impractical, frivolous, directly unconstitutional, entirely non-germane to the broader subject of the bill, or lack clear intent regarding the changes to be made. The amendment sponsor shall have 24 hours to object to the decision by the PPT and may overturn the action with the concurrence of 1/3rd of his fellow Senators.

According to the rules, only the amendment sponsor may motion to override a determination of frivolity. You werent the amendment sponsor and therefore could not make an override objection. I assume you know the rules. The logical interpretation of "can we vote" from you (not the amendment sponsor) is that you were motioning for a final vote since there was nothing else to vote on.

Are you saying you didnt know the rules?
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2022, 07:08:22 PM »

20 more hours to object to S019s motion for a final vote.

Uhhh I was asking for a vote to override your frivolous declaration. That should be obvious based on the context. Very absurd that we have a PPT who deliberately disobeys the standing orders for partisan gain.

Anyways in case it isn't obvious, I never made any motion for a final vote, and withdraw it if the PPT somehow believes I did.

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The President Pro Tempore may in good faith remove amendments from consideration that are functionally impractical, frivolous, directly unconstitutional, entirely non-germane to the broader subject of the bill, or lack clear intent regarding the changes to be made. The amendment sponsor shall have 24 hours to object to the decision by the PPT and may overturn the action with the concurrence of 1/3rd of his fellow Senators.

According to the rules, only the amendment sponsor may motion to override a determination of frivolity. You werent the amendment sponsor and therefore could not make an override objection. I assume you know the rules. The logical interpretation of "can we vote" from you (not the amendment sponsor) is that you were motioning for a final vote since there was nothing else to vote on.

Are you saying you didnt know the rules?


That must be a new change because I remember anyone used to be able to override, anyways I withdraw the final vote motion then.
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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2022, 07:17:49 PM »

Aye on cloture
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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2022, 07:18:11 PM »

I checked the rules and there is no guidance on withdrawing a motion after a vote has already started.

The rules do say "If an objection is made, then a vote shall be opened on ending debate." Shall is mandatory so the objection by WM triggered the vote automatically. The rules dont say anything about me being able to stop a vote once it has started.

Again shall is mandatory so I think my hands are tied.
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2022, 07:27:41 PM »

That must be a new change because I remember anyone used to be able to override, anyways I withdraw the final vote motion then.

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Aye (13): Western Democrat, Mr. Reactionary, WeatherBoy, DeadPrez, Discolovante, S019, FalterinArc, Ishan, Kuumo, Beesley, Tack, CalamityBlue, Joseph Cao
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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2022, 08:50:49 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2022, 09:48:58 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2022, 10:48:04 PM »

Aye

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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2022, 11:05:15 PM »

Just following orders....to screw the people of Kansas over!!!

The only people screwing them over are the Southern occupiers and imperialists.

The fanciful delusions on the part of the Fremontian irredenta knows neither the bounds of reasons, nor that of the rule of law.

Kansas has never been a part of the Fremont region, and the present Fremont government has made it abundantly clear that it stands with the Atlasian constitution on this matter.

Kansas is not "occupied territory", Kansas is a lawful component of the Southern region and of the Upper South Sub Region that I represent and has been so for far longer than the vast majority of players have been in this game at this point.
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« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2022, 01:32:38 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2022, 03:30:25 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2022, 07:13:40 AM »

Abstain
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