Do you support a Universal Paid Sick Leave Program ?

[jojoju1998]

Do you support a Universal Paid Sick Leave Program ?

[Progressive Pessimist]

This is long overdue and the pandemic really should have upped the urgency for a program like this here.

[jamestroll]

Yes I do. One of the better left wing proposals out there.


Not sure why conservatives are so adamant that people must work when ill. They seem to especially want food service workers to work when ill. Which is strange.. there are obvious reasons you would not want that to happen!

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Depends on how it would be paid for and how much it covered, but some kind of increased support for people who are sick is certainly in order.

[jamestroll]

If you have the flu or cold stay home and rest up.

If you have covid.. than yes.. go to work. As long as you are not sick.

[It’s so Joever]

Yes I do. One of the better left wing proposals out there.


Not sure why conservatives are so adamant that people must work when ill. They seem to especially want food service workers to work when ill. Which is strange.. there are obvious reasons you would not want that to happen!

If I don’t get diphtheria from my French fries then why am I even paying for them?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Yes I do. One of the better left wing proposals out there.

I guess if you consider countries like Qatar and Singapore to be left-wing.

[Pericles]

Yes, sick leave is obviously good for the public and it should be a basic protection for workers. Was it included in the Build Back Better legislation?

[jojoju1998]

Yes I do. One of the better left wing proposals out there.

I guess if you consider countries like Qatar and Singapore to be left-wing.

What's up with South Korea ??

[Sir Mohamed]

Yup (sane).

Every civilized country should have paid sick leave. What's the benefit of having people come to work sick?

[Nyvin]

Obvious yes.

[progressive85]

A policy that should have support of everyone that can get sick and has a child.  A strong PRO-FAMILY policy that most of the conservatives can endorse.  I don't know why it hasn't been implemented federally as a top priority.

[It’s so Joever]

Yes I do. One of the better left wing proposals out there.

I guess if you consider countries like Qatar and Singapore to be left-wing.

What's up with South Korea ??

Extremely reactionary and politically conservative country made even moreso by their northern neighbor?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Yes, but some smaller businesses might not be able to afford it.  So put a number on the number of employees a company must have before it is mandatory (I'm not going to).

[progressive85]

Yes, but some smaller businesses might not be able to afford it.  So put a number on the number of employees a company must have before it is mandatory (I'm not going to).

That's true... i do concur there should be a part of the law that says if the small business cannot afford it, then make the exception.

definitely for companies like mcdonalds and Walmart and big corporations, i really feel we're moving towards finally passing paid sick leave and i feel this will really provide help to many hard-working families.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

A policy that should have support of everyone that can get sick and has a child.  A strong PRO-FAMILY policy that most of the conservatives can endorse.  I don't know why it hasn't been implemented federally as a top priority.

It’s because conservatives don’t care about working people and think that if bad things happen to them, they deserve it.

[Joe Republic]

A policy that should have support of everyone that can get sick and has a child.  A strong PRO-FAMILY policy that most of the conservatives can endorse.  I don't know why it hasn't been implemented federally as a top priority.

Americans have always been proud adherents of the hustle and grind culture since at least the Industrial Revolution.*

"Sick?  It's all in the mind.  My grandpappy lost all his arms and legs in a corn thresher when he was 25 and he never missed a day's work til he retired."

"What do you mean you need several weeks off to have a baby?  Surely labor only takes a day or two?"

"Sure you have PTO hours available.  It tells you how many you have right there on your paycheck.  Just don't try and actually use them; we need all hands on deck here."

"Stay loyal to your job and they will always be loyal to you!"

"Remember, work hard, put in extra effort and long hours and your boss will always notice.  That's the only way to get a raise."

"Employees don't want more money, akshually.  What they really want is for their workplace to be like a family, with pizza parties and foosball tables!"

"You can't pay your rent?  Sucks to be you.  Just get a second job.  Oh, you already have one?  Okay then, a third.  Anyway, instead of renting you should have just bought a house in the 90s like I did."



* Go back any further than that and you start to find people grinding the hardest of all who, ahem, weren't getting paid for their labor at all…

[jojoju1998]

A policy that should have support of everyone that can get sick and has a child.  A strong PRO-FAMILY policy that most of the conservatives can endorse.  I don't know why it hasn't been implemented federally as a top priority.

Americans have always been proud adherents of the hustle and grind culture since at least the Industrial Revolution.*

"Sick?  It's all in the mind.  My grandpappy lost all his arms and legs in a corn thresher when he was 25 and he never missed a day's work til he retired."

"What do you mean you need several weeks off to have a baby?  Surely labor only takes a day or two?"

"Sure you have PTO hours available.  It tells you how many you have right there on your paycheck.  Just don't try and actually use them; we need all hands on deck here."

"Stay loyal to your job and they will always be loyal to you!"

"Remember, work hard, put in extra effort and long hours and your boss will always notice.  That's the only way to get a raise."

"Employees don't want more money, akshually.  What they really want is for their workplace to be like a family, with pizza parties and foosball tables!"

"You can't pay your rent?  Sucks to be you.  Just get a second job.  Oh, you already have one?  Okay then, a third.  Anyway, instead of renting you should have just bought a house in the 90s like I did."



* Go back any further than that and you start to find people grinding the hardest of all who, ahem, weren't getting paid for their labor at all…

Ironic you should say that because the large companies in the US, Netflix, Goldman Sachs, et cetera, are realizing, that since they're competing globally, they have to start offering benefits that are like... well every other country.

Goldman Sachs for example has 20 weeks of paid parental leave and 9 paid sick leave days. Penumbra ( a medical device company ) in California also has paid sick leave, and 12 weeks of parental leave.

The railword companies, and smaller companies are the odd ones out. And for whatever reason, teachers, police officers, firefighters. The public sector workers. At least in California.

[Joe Republic]

Ironic you should say that because the large companies in the US, Netflix, Goldman Sachs, et cetera, are realizing, that since they're competing globally, they have to start offering benefits that are like... well every other country.

Goldman Sachs for example has 20 weeks of paid parental leave and 9 paid sick leave days. Penumbra ( a medical device company ) in California also has paid sick leave, and 12 weeks of parental leave.

The railword companies, and smaller companies are the odd ones out. And for whatever reason, teachers, police officers, firefighters. The public sector workers. At least in California.

Yes, as the grind culture "nobody wants to work any more!!" Boomers are steadily giving way to the next generations, big companies are finally starting to realize the real reason why they can't seem to find and keep good talent around these days.

Private businesses can always make the necessary changes very rapidly.  The public sector, as always, makes changes at a glacial pace, and usually requires some level of buy in from the general public (of which Boomers and other stingy taxpayers still hold sway).

[Make America Grumpy Again]

Definitely. I understand the whole “rugged individualism” mantra but Europe’s welfare programs are superior in the senses that A. It benefits everyone and B. Most Conservatives approve of them so it’s not like it’s “muh Socialism” and C. Nobody dares talk about privatization of them, although personally I prefer a mixed private/public model to most programs.

[President Johnson]

Obviously yes.

It's quite the norm here and no political party in Germany questions it, from left to right. None. You get up to six weeks paid sick leave here. In the few cases six weeks are exceeded, health insurance pays 70% of your previous net income.

The US unfortunately is lagging behind the rest of the world here, for literally no valid reason.

[GP270watch]

 Every American worker should have 4 weeks consisting of paid vacation, sick leave, personal days at the bare minimum.

[President Johnson]

Every American worker should have 4 weeks consisting of paid vacation, sick leave, personal days at the bare minimum.

Agreed, and perhaps extend four weeks with increasing age. 24 days is also mandatory here, though 30 days is quite the norm. I have 30 days of paid vacation.

[jojoju1998]

Obviously yes.

It's quite the norm here and no political party in Germany questions it, from left to right. None. You get up to six weeks paid sick leave here. In the few cases six weeks are exceeded, health insurance pays 70% of your previous net income.

The US unfortunately is lagging behind the rest of the world here, for literally no valid reason.

South Korea is the only other industrialized country without paid sick leave.


But it should be noted; that although it's not " mandated ", more and more companies are offering it.

[jojoju1998]

Every American worker should have 4 weeks consisting of paid vacation, sick leave, personal days at the bare minimum.

Agreed, and perhaps extend four weeks with increasing age. 24 days is also mandatory here, though 30 days is quite the norm. I have 30 days of paid vacation.

America is a variable.

Some companies offer 1 year paid maternity leave, 2 weeks sick leave, and near unlimited vacation time.

Some companies do not. Other companies have combined PTO, where sick leave, vacation leave, and maternity leave are all in one pot.

Teachers in California don't get any paid maternity leave while Federal employees do.

There's no federal mandate.