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jfern
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« on: December 03, 2022, 12:19:45 AM »

I really hope hope SC doesn’t go first. It’s hurts progressive candidates

MI allows for both black representation (Detroit) which favors moderates candidates while giving progressives a chance from the strong labor unions, which are largely nonexistent in SC.

And MI looks more like the country as a whole.

Sanders surprised victory in 2016 gave his campaign a lot if credibility, momentum and hope. It also foresaw problems Hillary would have in the Midwest in the general election. Biden’s larger than expected victory in the 2020 primary in Michigan showed that he was a much better choice than Hillary, more competitive in the Midwest, and allowed progressive to accept him.

Progressive candidates need to do a better job appealing to Black voters in the South, period. Campaign in SC, GA, NC, AL, TX, TN, etc.
You gotta be there

Bernie did well in the most diverse city in America, Oakland, both times, but that didn't fit the media narrative.
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2022, 01:24:04 AM »

I really hope hope SC doesn’t go first. It’s hurts progressive candidates

MI allows for both black representation (Detroit) which favors moderates candidates while giving progressives a chance from the strong labor unions, which are largely nonexistent in SC.

And MI looks more like the country as a whole.

Sanders surprised victory in 2016 gave his campaign a lot if credibility, momentum and hope. It also foresaw problems Hillary would have in the Midwest in the general election. Biden’s larger than expected victory in the 2020 primary in Michigan showed that he was a much better choice than Hillary, more competitive in the Midwest, and allowed progressive to accept him.

Progressive candidates need to do a better job appealing to Black voters in the South, period. Campaign in SC, GA, NC, AL, TX, TN, etc.
You gotta be there

Bernie did well in the most diverse city in America, Oakland, both times, but that didn't fit the media narrative.

Bernie doing badly in the black vote in the primary isn't a 'media narrative', it's a fact. According to exit polls Sanders did worse than Biden among black voters in every contest with a statistically relevant sample. Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Nevada are the only states where Biden didn't at least double Sanders' level of black support.

I don't know if that will keep being the case in the future. Coalitions change. Sanders himself did very well in building latino support between 2020 and 2024. By 2028 there could easily be a progressive candidate that wins a larger portion of the black vote than an establishment candidate. But it certainly wasn't the case in 2020.

Sure it happened in 1988, but Jackson was black, and I don't think the Democratic establishment was as entrenched then.
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