Progressive Canada now says euthanasia is an acceptable mental health treatment

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

LINK (DailyHeil, sorry, but the point stands)

The Trudeau government isn't showing any signs of slowing down, and will continue to expand the law further over its next few years and decades in power. The number of Canadians that chose assisted suicide- if extrapolated- would be the equivalent of 100,000 Americans dying every year.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Assisted suicide should only be allowed in the cases of the terminally ill. This clownery is going to discredit the entire practice, and give the religious zealots in America the propaganda necessary to turn people against it.

[Independents for Nihilism]

Theoretically, I'm not opposed to assisted suicide for entirely untreatable conditions that effectively prohibit any quality of life. I can also see how this is a slippery slope for mental health conditions, but my understanding is that at least in the reported cases of people receiving referrals for extreme depression (usually alongside some other condition), whatever treatment they received during the 90-day "waiting period" ultimately deterred them from seeking suicide and they resumed other treatment. I only hope that under our overstressed healthcare system, this remains the case and people won't just end up slipping through the cracks, and taking their lives with a doctor's approval instead of just on their own like before.

[Horus]

Very disturbing. Why the Canadian people reelected this fool over O'Toole will never make sense to me.

Garbage like this also gives ammo to the ghouls against universal healthcare.

[NewYorkExpress]

Again, I support euthanasia, but to state it is a mental health treatment does disservice to mentally ill individuals.

Treatments aren't fatal.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This is getting genuinely dystopian.

[Benjamin Frank]

From Wiki:  In February 2017, editors on the English Wikipedia banned the use of the Daily Mail as a source.

In terms of mental health, the regulations of what can be considered have not been announced, and it would be far more accurate to say that the philosophy is that euthanasia is acceptable in mental health when there is no treatment.

People with mental health conditions can suffer severly, and, as I keep pointing out, a number of the people here who post on this and make comments along the lines of "if I had a mental health condition I could tough it out" couldn't even handle wearing masks to help protect other people during a pandemic, which is not over. If you're going to get so high and mighty over this, then you should at least be able to wear a mask for 8 hours a day or so to help reduce the spread of a deadly virus.

Finally, grandstanding is easy, improving things is hard. Many of the same people who get morally superior over this or things like this, then turn around and worry about an increase in crime or a decrease in their property values if somebody proposes placing mental health facilities, low income/subsidized/mixed housing or a homeless shelter in their back yard.

For instance:
People in Nanaimo living with complex mental-health and substance-use challenges, and are at risk of homelessness, will benefit when the Province adds 30 complex-care housing spaces to serve the community.

Complex-care housing provides supports to people who are facing mental-health and substance-use issues, trauma or brain injuries. They are often at risk of homelessness or eviction.

Through Budget 2022, government is investing $164 million during the next three years to provide complex-care housing to as many as 500 people throughout British Columbia.

“Complex-care housing is a groundbreaking approach for people with overlapping mental-health and substance-use challenges,” said Sheila Malcolmson, Minister of Mental Health and Addictions. “This new approach to care will connect people in Nanaimo with the services they need right in their homes to help establish stability, connection and break the cycle of homelessness.”
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022MMHA0054-001278

This was first announced by the government for both Vancouver and Nanaimo (a city of around 100,000 on central Vancouver Island for those not familiar) to be completed in 2020. The government has been unable to get this underway not due to delays from Covid or due to staffing shortages, but due to being unable to find a place to build these complex-care housing units.

[Benjamin Frank]

Very disturbing. Why the Canadian people reelected this fool over O'Toole will never make sense to me.

Garbage like this also gives ammo to the ghouls against universal healthcare.

Because Erin O'Toole and the Conservatives showed that they didn't actually care about life by siding with the Covidiots.

[dead0man]

Adult humans of sound mind should be able to end their life when they want to.  Professionals should be able to assist them.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

None of you have been mentally ill and more importantly think every mental ilness is the same as yours if you had it, which is why you make unfounded statements.

Also, stop using fake news sources, your Iran thread also turned out to be fake news.

[CumbrianLefty]

Adult humans of sound mind should be able to end their life when they want to.  Professionals should be able to assist them.

And defining that is in no way a can of worms, perish the thought.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

None of you have been mentally ill and more importantly think every mental ilness is the same as yours if you had it, which is why you make unfounded statements.

Also, stop using fake news sources, your Iran thread also turned out to be fake news.

Is Forbes good enough for you?

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

From Wiki:  In February 2017, editors on the English Wikipedia banned the use of the Daily Mail as a source.

In terms of mental health, the regulations of what can be considered have not been announced, and it would be far more accurate to say that the philosophy is that euthanasia is acceptable in mental health when there is no treatment.

People with mental health conditions can suffer severly, and, as I keep pointing out, a number of the people here who post on this and make comments along the lines of "if I had a mental health condition I could tough it out" couldn't even handle wearing masks to help protect other people during a pandemic, which is not over. If you're going to get so high and mighty over this, then you should at least be able to wear a mask for 8 hours a day or so to help reduce the spread of a deadly virus.

Finally, grandstanding is easy, improving things is hard. Many of the same people who get morally superior over this or things like this, then turn around and worry about an increase in crime or a decrease in their property values if somebody proposes placing mental health facilities, low income/subsidized/mixed housing or a homeless shelter in their back yard.

For instance:
People in Nanaimo living with complex mental-health and substance-use challenges, and are at risk of homelessness, will benefit when the Province adds 30 complex-care housing spaces to serve the community.

Complex-care housing provides supports to people who are facing mental-health and substance-use issues, trauma or brain injuries. They are often at risk of homelessness or eviction.

Through Budget 2022, government is investing $164 million during the next three years to provide complex-care housing to as many as 500 people throughout British Columbia.

“Complex-care housing is a groundbreaking approach for people with overlapping mental-health and substance-use challenges,” said Sheila Malcolmson, Minister of Mental Health and Addictions. “This new approach to care will connect people in Nanaimo with the services they need right in their homes to help establish stability, connection and break the cycle of homelessness.”
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022MMHA0054-001278

This was first announced by the government for both Vancouver and Nanaimo (a city of around 100,000 on central Vancouver Island for those not familiar) to be completed in 2020. The government has been unable to get this underway not due to delays from Covid or due to staffing shortages, but due to being unable to find a place to build these complex-care housing units.

Yes, we should just take the government's word on this.

You don't have to defend everything your government does. Virtually all US users except for Hillgoose would clearly state their opposition to the Iraq War, for instance.

[It’s so Joever]

Endorsing Poilievre, this has to stop.

[Benjamin Frank]

From Wiki:  In February 2017, editors on the English Wikipedia banned the use of the Daily Mail as a source.

In terms of mental health, the regulations of what can be considered have not been announced, and it would be far more accurate to say that the philosophy is that euthanasia is acceptable in mental health when there is no treatment.

People with mental health conditions can suffer severly, and, as I keep pointing out, a number of the people here who post on this and make comments along the lines of "if I had a mental health condition I could tough it out" couldn't even handle wearing masks to help protect other people during a pandemic, which is not over. If you're going to get so high and mighty over this, then you should at least be able to wear a mask for 8 hours a day or so to help reduce the spread of a deadly virus.

Finally, grandstanding is easy, improving things is hard. Many of the same people who get morally superior over this or things like this, then turn around and worry about an increase in crime or a decrease in their property values if somebody proposes placing mental health facilities, low income/subsidized/mixed housing or a homeless shelter in their back yard.

For instance:
People in Nanaimo living with complex mental-health and substance-use challenges, and are at risk of homelessness, will benefit when the Province adds 30 complex-care housing spaces to serve the community.

Complex-care housing provides supports to people who are facing mental-health and substance-use issues, trauma or brain injuries. They are often at risk of homelessness or eviction.

Through Budget 2022, government is investing $164 million during the next three years to provide complex-care housing to as many as 500 people throughout British Columbia.

“Complex-care housing is a groundbreaking approach for people with overlapping mental-health and substance-use challenges,” said Sheila Malcolmson, Minister of Mental Health and Addictions. “This new approach to care will connect people in Nanaimo with the services they need right in their homes to help establish stability, connection and break the cycle of homelessness.”
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022MMHA0054-001278

This was first announced by the government for both Vancouver and Nanaimo (a city of around 100,000 on central Vancouver Island for those not familiar) to be completed in 2020. The government has been unable to get this underway not due to delays from Covid or due to staffing shortages, but due to being unable to find a place to build these complex-care housing units.

Yes, we should just take the government's word on this.

You don't have to defend everything your government does. Virtually all US users except for Hillgoose would clearly state their opposition to the Iraq War, for instance.

There is nobody's word to take on this, the details haven't been released.

The Minister of Justice, David Lametti, has stated his philosophy. We'll see how closely his stated philosophy matches the regulations.

 Of course, anybody can oppose in principle extending euthanasia to those with mental health issues, but, then those who do so can also be criticized.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

None of you have been mentally ill

Prove it.

[CumbrianLefty]

None of you have been mentally ill

Well, that is provably untrue if "you" means Atlas users more generally.

[dead0man]

Adult humans of sound mind should be able to end their life when they want to.  Professionals should be able to assist them.

And defining that is in no way a can of worms, perish the thought.

it isn't, except by people whose purpose is to confuse the issue.  We have no problem declaring people of sound mind before they sign other contracts, the only reason this would be any different is because people against euthanasia would force it to be.

[Torie]

Adult humans of sound mind should be able to end their life when they want to.  Professionals should be able to assist them.

And defining that is in no way a can of worms, perish the thought.

it isn't, except by people whose purpose is to confuse the issue.  We have no problem declaring people of sound mind before they sign other contracts, the only reason this would be any different is because people against euthanasia would force it to be.

You know the best argument against euthanasia don't you? I ask in the context where "assisted" euthanasia (well in one case without assistance) is an honored family tradition. We all kill each other at the end. So the best argument is not necessarily for everyone, a dispositive argument.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Adult humans of sound mind should be able to end their life when they want to.  Professionals should be able to assist them.

And defining that is in no way a can of worms, perish the thought.

it isn't, except by people whose purpose is to confuse the issue.  We have no problem declaring people of sound mind before they sign other contracts, the only reason this would be any different is because people against euthanasia would force it to be.

Even if you take a maximally libertarian position on assisted suicide and think that Canada should do the same, the current piecemeal expansion of the practice should still be unnerving because it then becomes a story that the Canadian government is telling about who they think will be missed the least.